woko said..
Perhaps cost ? Not just the basic material but also welding rods, drill abilities, etc. I've just rebuilt my gunnel rail with 304, got 70 of the 74 drill holes in the right place, now I have to devise a way to mount the little pedestal drill in situ to redrill the 4 offenders. It happens

Glory that's a big effort. Lots of drill bit sharpening I assume.

Yes cost is the main problem but super duplex grade stainless needs to be used for better corrosion resistance. Google "stainless steel in boat construction" and numerous good links will come up, the best being;

www.asminternational.org/web/hts/news/newswire/-/journal_content/56/10180/21839692/NEWS
www.ssy-usa.com/pdf/2020_08_07_IMOA_MR_0220_ships.pdf

But it looks like SSYS went bankrupt in 2021 so that probably tells a story
www.allabolag.se/5567701015/stainless-steel-yachts-sweden-ab

Underwater super duplex stainless finished to mirror polish to avoid growth - no afouling. Above water suitable 2 pack paints.

Looks like if the life cycle cost model is used and the life is long enough, and utilisation / availability high enough, then the reduced slipping and afouling costs could outweigh the initial capex costs. Albeit very rare to see purchasing depts and accountants agree to high capex purchases, whatever the industry.

r13 said..

woko said..
Perhaps cost ? Not just the basic material but also welding rods, drill abilities, etc. I've just rebuilt my gunnel rail with 304, got 70 of the 74 drill holes in the right place, now I have to devise a way to mount the little pedestal drill in situ to redrill the 4 offenders. It happens

Glory that's a big effort. Lots of drill bit sharpening I assume.

Yes cost is the main problem but super duplex grade stainless needs to be used for better corrosion resistance. Google "stainless steel in boat construction" and numerous good links will come up, the best being;

www.asminternational.org/web/hts/news/newswire/-/journal_content/56/10180/21839692/NEWS
www.ssy-usa.com/pdf/2020_08_07_IMOA_MR_0220_ships.pdf

But it looks like SSYS went bankrupt in 2021 so that probably tells a story
www.allabolag.se/5567701015/stainless-steel-yachts-sweden-ab

Underwater super duplex stainless finished to mirror polish to avoid growth - no afouling. Above water suitable 2 pack paints.

Looks like if the life cycle cost model is used and the life is long enough, and utilisation / availability high enough, then the reduced slipping and afouling costs could outweigh the initial capex costs. Albeit very rare to see purchasing depts and accountants agree to high capex purchases, whatever the industry.

No sharpening needed, I used Sutton tools inox drills, got through the 6mm no trouble. The 12mm holes in 10mm 304 for the chainplates was likewise trouble free. Broke the 5mm pilot drill on the 2nd last onboard hole and I managed to push a 10mm bit through with no pilot, I'm sure it would have been a spectacle with me sitting on the little pedestal drill on the bow whilst operating it ! It was so much easier in the workshop

woko said..

No sharpening needed, I used Sutton tools inox drills, got through the 6mm no trouble.

No matter how good your drill bits are or what you are drilling this stuff makes life a lot easier.

A bargain for somebody. S&S Yankee (30 ft) For $8500. These yachts were strongly built without compromise. I am sorely tempted.





yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/custom/288158

cisco said..
A bargain for somebody. S&S Yankee (30 ft) For $8500. These yachts were strongly built without compromise. I am sorely tempted.





yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/custom/288158

Interesting that the yanks were doing internal liners back in the day which makes the interior hold up much better than Australian boats of that era. Might be quite a bargain as you can't even get a Compass 28 for that sort of money.

EastCoastSail said..
Better than a stainless yacht, if a titanium yacht appeals
www.proboat.com/2011/07/an-all-titanium-yacht/

That would be so cool. Wonder what electrolysis issues would be?

Even at $5800 this is a quality small boat. Lead keel.


www.ebay.com.au/itm/325499607880?hash=item4bc949db48:g:C0UAAOSwGS5jwkEO

shaggybaxter said..

lydia said..
yachthub.com/list/boats-for-sale/used/power-boats/sparkman-stephens-34/287085

O.M.G.
Unless it makes you coffee every morning, mows the lawn weekly and invests in the stock market for you, there isn't a snowballs chance in hell I'd pay $230K for an S&S 34. Pedigree or no, that's just nuts.

Sold very quickly and is moving to Queensland...someone must have really wanted it. Replacement for a Pogo , maybe?

This looks interesting

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/brin-wilson-37-new-zealand-sofala/289004

For those that dream of the GGR

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/1307460330?utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=ios_VIP&utm_medium=social&utm_source=sms

cammd said..
This looks interesting

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/brin-wilson-37-new-zealand-sofala/289004

Went aboard when she was for sale many years ago. What a stunning craft all round. Bit of a bargain at this money I think. Trying to remember when it was but I'm thinking 12 odd years ago. $125k from memory.....

cammd said..

Magpieuser said..

cammd said..
This looks interesting
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/brin-wilson-37-new-zealand-sofala/289004

Went aboard when she was for sale many years ago. What a stunning craft all round. Bit of a bargain at this money I think. Trying to remember when it was but I'm thinking 12 odd years ago. $125k from memory.....

It looks like a great bargain to me, hard enough to find a boat like that let alone at such a low price. I don't think you can even buy NZ Kauri Pine anymore, my understanding is its one of the premium boat building materials, I wouldn't be surprised if you could get your hands on some that the amount required to build this boat would cost more for just rough sawn planks than the asking price of the boat. If I was in the market I would have a look at this one very quick.

Lovely looking boat, the thing to look out for would be leaking and rotten decks. Looks like it still has the original teak strips screwed in which is often a weak spot. But as Ramona has proved a complete deck replacement may not be a big deal as it first appears. The outstanding list of stuff just looks like typical maintenance work the comes up regularly as part of the cost of boat ownership. If work is required I hear Kettering around the corner has an excellent ship yard. I hope it finds a good home.

Does it come with a trailer?

This boat and mooring next to me sold in less than 10 minutes after I linked it on a Facebook group I run.

www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/716753516645786/

cammd said..
This looks interesting

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/brin-wilson-37-new-zealand-sofala/289004

Sold. Someone did really well! Lovely boat.