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Guitz
Guitz
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Ramona
Ramona
NSW
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NSW, 7752 posts
25 May 2022 8:56am
It's a classic Sparkman and Stephens yacht with serious history. Just buy it and rip off that air brake!
Ramona
Ramona
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cammd
cammd
QLD
4437 posts
QLD, 4437 posts
25 May 2022 10:06am
I think this looks like good value.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/van-de-stadt-caribbean/277038
julesmoto
julesmoto
NSW
1577 posts
NSW, 1577 posts
25 May 2022 3:22pm



II wonder if there is an easy way to test if a hull layup is full epoxy rather than polyester apart from drilling a sample and taking it to a lab?
cammd
cammd
QLD
4437 posts
QLD, 4437 posts
25 May 2022 5:12pm
julesmoto said..





II wonder if there is an easy way to test if a hull layup is full epoxy rather than polyester apart from drilling a sample and taking it to a lab?


West System Composite construction makes me think its a strip or diagonal planked timber core sheathed outside and possibly inside with epoxy and f/glass, I would be surprised if polyester resin was used.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
25 May 2022 5:33pm



It's not pretty, so all the other doesn't matter.
Just my opinion, not wanting to offend anyone.
cammd
cammd
QLD
4437 posts
QLD, 4437 posts
25 May 2022 5:46pm
Bundeenabuoy said..





It's not pretty, so all the other doesn't matter.
Just my opinion, not wanting to offend anyone.


I don't know about that, no one would ever buy a multi hull if that was the case
r13
r13
NSW
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r13 r13
NSW, 1720 posts
25 May 2022 6:12pm
If the added on pilot house was removed to take it back to the study plan designed cabin shape, it would be as pretty as any yacht imho.
lydia
lydia
1927 posts
1927 posts
25 May 2022 4:21pm
Few years ago meet a couple on the south coast of Tas.
In a sister ship they had gone from the Baltic to Spitzbergen to Patagonia and then uphill to Tasmania across the Southern Ocean
They said they left with heaps of gear on the boat, wind generators, water maker etc etc and every port they sent things back to Germany.
It was pretty stripped by Tasmania.
Just saying
r13
r13
NSW
1720 posts
r13 r13
NSW, 1720 posts
25 May 2022 6:28pm
But this Van de Stadt Caribbean is in Carnarvon WA not Tasmanian and the inventory seems reasonably complete. Are you talking about this advertised VDS or another? Sorry maybe I am missing something.
stray
stray
SA
325 posts
SA, 325 posts
25 May 2022 6:23pm
Bundeenabuoy said..





It's not pretty, so all the other doesn't matter.
Just my opinion, not wanting to offend anyone.


It's a better looking boat than most of the old osmosis farms that appear on this thread.
lydia
lydia
1927 posts
1927 posts
25 May 2022 5:36pm
r13 said..
But this Van de Stadt Caribbean is in Carnarvon WA not Tasmanian and the inventory seems reasonably complete. Are you talking about this advertised VDS or another? Sorry maybe I am missing something.


Different boat but saying sometimes less in more!
stray
stray
SA
325 posts
SA, 325 posts
25 May 2022 7:11pm
lydia said..

Different boat but saying sometimes less in more!


Totally agree Lydia. Less gadgets means more enjoyment.
sparau
sparau
QLD
131 posts
QLD, 131 posts
26 May 2022 12:23am
Bundeenabuoy
It's not pretty, so all the other doesn't matter


It looks shady to me, i'll take shade over pretty for the tropics : )
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7752 posts
julesmoto
julesmoto
NSW
1577 posts
NSW, 1577 posts
1 Jun 2022 6:26pm



Nice to see one that is not advertised as a mooring minder and in terrible condition. They were a great little boat with a large deck area for lounging around at anchor, a large cockpit and easy power via an outboard
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7752 posts
NSW, 7752 posts
2 Jun 2022 7:31am
julesmoto said..





Nice to see one that is not advertised as a mooring minder and in terrible condition. They were a great little boat with a large deck area for lounging around at anchor, a large cockpit and easy power via an outboard


That's a local boat {JB}, you might recognize the slips. Couple of years back a much nicer one sold with a mooring in Currambene Creek for $800!
julesmoto
julesmoto
NSW
1577 posts
NSW, 1577 posts
2 Jun 2022 11:15am
Ramona said..


julesmoto said..









Nice to see one that is not advertised as a mooring minder and in terrible condition. They were a great little boat with a large deck area for lounging around at anchor, a large cockpit and easy power via an outboard




That's a local boat {JB}, you might recognize the slips. Couple of years back a much nicer one sold with a mooring in Currambene Creek for $800!



Yes recognise the slip as where I met you :-).
This boat is just an example of an out of favour size in our current market and represents marvellous value for someone getting into the sport provided they have enough sense to wait for a good one. I remember them being $7000 new in 1970 when built at the SpitBridge marina where my dads was berthed and I learned to sail.
Most people just day sail around the harbour or protected Bays and occasionally stick their nose out the heads on nice days. This boat is perfect and very comfortable and safe for that. Conversely it is bad news for anyone that has a good one and might have upgraded a bit with new sails etcetera.
Contrast this with the price of catamarans at the moment which is absurd purely due to the fact that it is an in favour segment probably due to YouTube videos.
0llie
0llie
NSW
176 posts
NSW, 176 posts
2 Jun 2022 11:13pm
julesmoto said..

Ramona said..



julesmoto said..











Nice to see one that is not advertised as a mooring minder and in terrible condition. They were a great little boat with a large deck area for lounging around at anchor, a large cockpit and easy power via an outboard





That's a local boat {JB}, you might recognize the slips. Couple of years back a much nicer one sold with a mooring in Currambene Creek for $800!




Yes recognise the slip as where I met you :-).
This boat is just an example of an out of favour size in our current market and represents marvellous value for someone getting into the sport provided they have enough sense to wait for a good one. I remember them being $7000 new in 1970 when built at the SpitBridge marina where my dads was berthed and I learned to sail.
Most people just day sail around the harbour or protected Bays and occasionally stick their nose out the heads on nice days. This boat is perfect and very comfortable and safe for that. Conversely it is bad news for anyone that has a good one and might have upgraded a bit with new sails etcetera.
Contrast this with the price of catamarans at the moment which is absurd purely due to the fact that it is an in favour segment probably due to YouTube videos.


So true, I stumbled across a dirt cheap catamaran last year and flipped it for almost the cost of my new house!!
southace
southace
SA
4795 posts
SA, 4795 posts
3 Jun 2022 3:12pm
Bluewater 420 anyone?
They are Few and far between on the marketplace , this sister ship to mine has the 75hp rather than the 55hp not sure the benefits other than lower revs at cruise speed. Has a variable pitch propeller which sounds expensive and to what benefits I'm not sure. yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/bluewater-cruising-yachts-bluewater-420rs/277943
cammd
cammd
QLD
4437 posts
QLD, 4437 posts
3 Jun 2022 4:12pm
southace said..
Bluewater 420 anyone?
They are Few and far between on the marketplace , this sister ship to mine has the 75hp rather than the 55hp not sure the benefits other than lower revs at cruise speed. Has a variable pitch propeller which sounds expensive and to what benefits I'm not sure. yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/bluewater-cruising-yachts-bluewater-420rs/277943



Very nice boat

I have a Brunton variable pitch prop on mine, I am lead to believe they offer better motor sailing performance in both speed and fuel economy, from my limited experience I would agree that with a light breeze and the sails up and the motor ticking over at low revs we are humming along nicely a 7+knts.

$345K... not cheap for a "near new" 25 year old boat although after visiting the boat show a couple of weeks a go I would prefer an old one to a new one.

Makes that $90k VDS look like damn good value
southace
southace
SA
4795 posts
SA, 4795 posts
3 Jun 2022 4:08pm
said..

southace said..
Bluewater 420 anyone?
They are Few and far between on the marketplace , this sister ship to mine has the 75hp rather than the 55hp not sure the benefits other than lower revs at cruise speed. Has a variable pitch propeller which sounds expensive and to what benefits I'm not sure. yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/bluewater-cruising-yachts-bluewater-420rs/277943




Very nice boat

I have a Brunton variable pitch prop on mine, I am lead to believe they offer better motor sailing performance in both speed and fuel economy, from my limited experience I would agree that with a light breeze and the sails up and the motor ticking over at low revs we are humming along nicely a 7+knts.

$345K... not cheap for a "near new" 25 year old boat although after visiting the boat show a couple of weeks a go I would prefer an old one to a new one.

Makes that $90k VDS look like damn good value


It's 2 years older than my BW 420 and originally had the same layout with a pullman style double to port and a head/shower in the forward bow. The extensive refit they mention was to reconfigure the bow to install the current V berth and add the heads to port aft of the forward cabin. Which also enabled room to install a bow thruster under the vberth.. It also had the hard dodger fitted and I enquired about the price for the dodger and was ball park figures of over 20k. I Also believe teak decks have been added and a number of other upgrades. So I guess the price is reflective to the work that's been carried out over the years.
I have considered putting mine on the market but can't justify finding a yacht comparable in the future and now that I have set it up how I want it I really dont want to go through all that work again!
DrogueOne
DrogueOne
215 posts
215 posts
5 Jun 2022 3:08pm
julesmoto said..

Nice to see one that is not advertised as a mooring minder and in terrible condition. They were a great little boat with a large deck area for lounging around at anchor, a large cockpit and easy power via an outboard


A pair in Mosman bay in good condition.


r13
r13
NSW
1720 posts
r13 r13
NSW, 1720 posts
7 Jun 2022 5:49pm
Value - $7k Swanson 27 with diesel

www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/750972792600621/?media_id=1&ref=share_attachment
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7752 posts
NSW, 7752 posts
11 Jun 2022 8:35am
Lovely NZ Kauri timber yacht. Bit rich for me but I'm sure it's good value. I want to see a video of her hard on the wind in a seaway with that tender on the rear!

www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/yachts/keeler/listing/3633031738?fbclid=IwAR2TG2Oi_zSA6urg257pfSYolykQscIxN-hiUKBxlP52sASd8i6k8OY30tA
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
11 Jun 2022 11:15am
southace said..

said..


southace said..
Bluewater 420 anyone?
They are Few and far between on the marketplace , this sister ship to mine has the 75hp rather than the 55hp not sure the benefits other than lower revs at cruise speed. Has a variable pitch propeller which sounds expensive and to what benefits I'm not sure. yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/bluewater-cruising-yachts-bluewater-420rs/277943





Very nice boat

I have a Brunton variable pitch prop on mine, I am lead to believe they offer better motor sailing performance in both speed and fuel economy, from my limited experience I would agree that with a light breeze and the sails up and the motor ticking over at low revs we are humming along nicely a 7+knts.

$345K... not cheap for a "near new" 25 year old boat although after visiting the boat show a couple of weeks a go I would prefer an old one to a new one.

Makes that $90k VDS look like damn good value



It's 2 years older than my BW 420 and originally had the same layout with a pullman style double to port and a head/shower in the forward bow. The extensive refit they mention was to reconfigure the bow to install the current V berth and add the heads to port aft of the forward cabin. Which also enabled room to install a bow thruster under the vberth.. It also had the hard dodger fitted and I enquired about the price for the dodger and was ball park figures of over 20k. I Also believe teak decks have been added and a number of other upgrades. So I guess the price is reflective to the work that's been carried out over the years.
I have considered putting mine on the market but can't justify finding a yacht comparable in the future and now that I have set it up how I want it I really dont want to go through all that work again!


I meet the couple who bought your last boat in Port Hacking recently.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
11 Jun 2022 11:17am


A lot of boat for the money
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7752 posts
NSW, 7752 posts
13 Jun 2022 4:54pm
44 foot fibreglass boat for 23 grand! Needs an engine.

www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/770184867455078/?media_id=0&ref=share_attachment
southace
southace
SA
4795 posts
SA, 4795 posts
13 Jun 2022 4:31pm
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/swanson-36/278331
Local Boat is back on the market after a little make over...still cant see Swanson in the hull apart from the cabin and deck.
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