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Ramona
Ramona
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17 Apr 2022 8:24am
Good value Tophat on eBay. Transom rudder version and looks pretty good. The Yanmar is probably a YSE8.

www.ebay.com.au/itm/265638286289?hash=item3dd94693d1:g:MqIAAOSw4OFiU3uS
julesmoto
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17 Apr 2022 8:05pm
Ramona said..
Good value Tophat on eBay. Transom rudder version and looks pretty good. The Yanmar is probably a YSE8.

www.ebay.com.au/itm/265638286289?hash=item3dd94693d1:g:MqIAAOSw4OFiU3uS


Never seen one with a transom hung rudder. Why would anyone do that?
Ramona
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18 Apr 2022 8:08am
julesmoto said..

Ramona said..
Good value Tophat on eBay. Transom rudder version and looks pretty good. The Yanmar is probably a YSE8.

www.ebay.com.au/itm/265638286289?hash=item3dd94693d1:g:MqIAAOSw4OFiU3uS



Never seen one with a transom hung rudder. Why would anyone do that?


From the ad it seems there are other Tophats in that configuration. I'm fairly sure the Tophat fans on this forum have discussed transom hung rudders previously. It may have something to do with the inboard diesel installation.
r13
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21 Apr 2022 7:03pm
Someone over there was looking for something similar to this a while back..........if still are it could be of interest. This would go like fertilizer off a shovel.

www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=510786567242492&set=pcb.3166541653593304
Chris 249
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21 Apr 2022 9:45pm
r13 said..
Someone over there was looking for something similar to this a while back..........if still are it could be of interest. This would go like fertilizer off a shovel.

www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=510786567242492&set=pcb.3166541653593304





Wow. Needs some work, but brilliant boats. A good one is still close to the fastest thing of its breed alive, as you know. I was lucky enough to have a run on the first one (I think) Rapid Transit and on the first really wicked one*, Shoot The Dog. For me, the fact that they had some interior and could sail offshore put them in a different bracket to later sportsboats. YMMV

(Wicked as in a boat with the wick lit, not evil)
r13
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22 Apr 2022 6:30pm
Yes recall Rapid Transit. There's a Young 780 centreboarder sailing out of BBYC and it is a great all rounder - see here chasing a J70 to the bottom mark. Never thought Jim Young got the credit he deserved in the Kiwi brigade but might be wrong.

www.facebook.com/BotanyBayYachtClub/videos/930986844247479/

A great all rounder in that size range as you say, hasn't aged a bit. There is more bang for the $ in that size of boat than any other imho - the Masrm 720 was a good example of this but it didn't have the break away reaching speed of the Y780.
0llie
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28 Apr 2022 8:15pm
This looks like it represents good value though has been used a lot from the description,

derwentboats.com.au/derwent/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/farr-40-ior-kevlar-performance-cruiser-racer/275882/
2bish
2bish
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28 Apr 2022 10:44pm
0llie said..
This looks like it represents good value though has been used a lot from the description,

derwentboats.com.au/derwent/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/farr-40-ior-kevlar-performance-cruiser-racer/275882/


Good one! I leased Nadia for a year before we purchased our current boat. Basic fit-out, but lots of fun to sail.
Ramona
Ramona
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29 Apr 2022 7:53am
This Whiting quarter tonner is still for sale and has had a reduction in price.

www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1086046445318824/?ref=browse_tab&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks
r13
r13
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Azure305
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2 May 2022 10:01pm
A good buy even if just for the 14hp Nanni
Ramona
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3 May 2022 8:22am


That's a steal! Headsail foil, probably was a keen club racer.
Chris 249
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3 May 2022 8:54pm
Yep, I'm fairly sure she was raced around Pittwater lots years ago.

The prices of yachts generally seems to be holding up from what I can see, but the IOR mastheaders without sumptous interiors seem to be the exception, as shown by some of the 3/4s (Bountys, Carters etc), this Holland and others. Maybe they don't attract the dreamers but they seem to be where the value is (IMHO).
Achernar
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3 May 2022 9:05pm
Ramona said..




That's a steal! Headsail foil, probably was a keen club racer.


Crikey. $1500 gets you a near new Nanni engine, but you'll need to dispose of the packaging.
Ramona
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4 May 2022 8:49am
There will probably be a very original Clansman in superb condition on an excellent mooring for 12 grand near me for sale shortly.
Chris 249
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4 May 2022 10:10am
Achernar said..

Ramona said..






That's a steal! Headsail foil, probably was a keen club racer.



Crikey. $1500 gets you a near new Nanni engine, but you'll need to dispose of the packaging.


If the sails are anything like OK in general it could be a great little boat at that price.
Ramona
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UncleBob
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5 May 2022 9:28am


I don't think the vendor does either.
Ramona
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5 May 2022 6:15pm
Nice easy project. The MD7 would be cheap and easy to rebuild. Needs sails and some very simple interior woodwork.

www.ebay.com.au/itm/325175135943?hash=item4bb5f2cec7:g:GLwAAOSwVylicgsT
jbarnes85
jbarnes85
VIC
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8 May 2022 11:23am
This guy has three rudders.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/nissen/276810
julesmoto
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8 May 2022 3:58pm


Imagine the drag (especially with that fat anode on the central one)!
Ramona
Ramona
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8 May 2022 7:01pm


Love the watch keepers little cubby hole.
Ramona
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8 May 2022 7:03pm
julesmoto said..




Imagine the drag (especially with that fat anode on the central one)!


Rudders are only short. Probably about the same surface area as a normal single blade. The centre rudder would be ideal for motoring.
BeamReach
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8 May 2022 8:13pm
What are aluminium hulls like for maintenance, other than the usual 18 month anti fouling?

Are they like a an old steel hull, a sleeping corrosion issue.?

I would think they are a noisy hull, with waves lapping under sail and at anchor?

Cheers....
Chris 249
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9 May 2022 9:49am
Georg Nissen designed some pretty good racing boats so he doesn't seem to have been the sort of guy to ignore drag if it was going to cause problems. That is a damn nice boat.
r13
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9 May 2022 8:33pm
BeamReach said..
What are aluminium hulls like for maintenance, other than the usual 18 month anti fouling?

Are they like a an old steel hull, a sleeping corrosion issue.?

I would think they are a noisy hull, with waves lapping under sail and at anchor?

Cheers....


What yacht manufacturer and naval architect designed model are you talking about?

Like any hull built out of any material there are pros and cons. Expect you would have searched and found many such articles as these;

yachting-pages.com/articles/aluminium-boat-hulls-vs-steel-boat-hulls.html

www.godownsize.com/common-problems-aluminum-boats/

Aluminium hulls are not a sleeping corrosion issue but don't drop an item with a high % of copper into the bilge......

These French builders specialise in aluminium yachts and this article has notes on electrolysis which you would have seen.

www.yachtingworld.com/boat-test/allures-40-9-vs-ovni-400-french-aluminium-centreboarders-128257

As regards noisy hull - there are easy fixes as you would have seen

www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f47/owners-opinions-on-aluminium-boats-141132.html

Aluminium has about 1/3 the elastic modulus as steel so panel deflections of an equivalent scantling design aluminium and steel panel are 3x greater for the aluminium case.

Obviously a suitable marine grade aluminium alloy needs to be used - Pechiney produced many marine use documents for aluminium till they were taken over by idiots in 2003

www.solarnavigator.net/aluminum_alloys.htm
BeamReach
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9 May 2022 10:15pm



r13 said..

BeamReach said..
What are aluminium hulls like for maintenance, other than the usual 18 month anti fouling?

Are they like a an old steel hull, a sleeping corrosion issue.?

I would think they are a noisy hull, with waves lapping under sail and at anchor?

Cheers....



What yacht manufacturer and naval architect designed model are you talking about?

Like any hull built out of any material there are pros and cons. Expect you would have searched and found many such articles as these;

yachting-pages.com/articles/aluminium-boat-hulls-vs-steel-boat-hulls.html

www.godownsize.com/common-problems-aluminum-boats/

Aluminium hulls are not a sleeping corrosion issue but don't drop an item with a high % of copper into the bilge......

These French builders specialise in aluminium yachts and this article has notes on electrolysis which you would have seen.

www.yachtingworld.com/boat-test/allures-40-9-vs-ovni-400-french-aluminium-centreboarders-128257

As regards noisy hull - there are easy fixes as you would have seen

www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f47/owners-opinions-on-aluminium-boats-141132.html

Aluminium has about 1/3 the elastic modulus as steel so panel deflections of an equivalent scantling design aluminium and steel panel are 3x greater for the aluminium case.

Obviously a suitable marine grade aluminium alloy needs to be used - Pechiney produced many marine use documents for aluminium till they were taken over by idiots in 2003

www.solarnavigator.net/aluminum_alloys.htm


Thanks r13, You are a wealth of knowledge and information, like many on the forum. When I get the chance I will have a read of the links you have provided. I have always wonder about an aluminium boat, permanently in the water. The above yacht with 3 rudders, made me ask the question.
Many Thanks, Cheers....
Ramona
Ramona
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10 May 2022 6:41pm
BeamReach said..
What are aluminium hulls like for maintenance, other than the usual 18 month anti fouling?

Are they like a an old steel hull, a sleeping corrosion issue.?

I would think they are a noisy hull, with waves lapping under sail and at anchor?

Cheers....


My mates alloy Cole 42 has the topsides back to bare metal and he easily gets 2 years out of the antifoul. Corrosion is not a problem if you use the right antifoul and don't use too many anodes. Very quiet at sea and at the mooring.



Ramona
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11 May 2022 8:27am
This Cole 28 is back with a reduced price. Minor starting problem but it will be a minor problem too.

www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633619171018636/?ref=browse_tab&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks
julesmoto
julesmoto
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11 May 2022 7:29pm
2bish said..

0llie said..
This looks like it represents good value though has been used a lot from the description,

derwentboats.com.au/derwent/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/farr-40-ior-kevlar-performance-cruiser-racer/275882/



Good one! I leased Nadia for a year before we purchased our current boat. Basic fit-out, but lots of fun to sail.


Nothing like the skipper sweeping the cockpit side to side with the tiller when it gets a roll up on a plane downwind with a kite up! Got to love tillers though :).
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