Yara said..

Ramona said..

Andrew68 said..
Here is another S&S 39.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425

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Lovely boat. Good to see boats this size with no anchor winch and a decent anchor well. Perkins a bonus. Some of the timber interior is a bit different! Needs the reefing lines back to the cockpit and an electric mainsail halyard winch on the rear of the cabin but I could live with it.

Good to see boats this size with no anchor winch and a decent anchor well. Why is that good? To me it says the boat was never cruised short handed. Could also be that the design is difficult to fit an anchor winch which can be arranged to properly feed the chain into a locker.

Looks like there was an anchor winch at sometime,,,

cisco said..

Ramona said..
Hate ads like this!
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/manoora/sail-boats/s-s34-mark1-sail-boat/1212875316

So do I!!
Just another dunger on the Botanic Gardens pile berths, Brisbane's inner city marine slum.

Really ? Most people enjoy coming into Brisbane city to stock up and stay a while , What is your cruising history ciscio seems all negitive and on the hard stand!

That be she but her real name is ENVY II.

No longer on the Aus Register of Ships as ENVY II or Lady Katherine apparently.

When I had her she was 2C survey 6+2 200 nm offshore or place of safe haven and 1D survey 16+2 sail training, partially smooth waters.

I bought her for $75k in 1992 maybe and sold her in 2000-2001 for $110k without the marine parks permit which I later sold for $27k.

So at a gross profit of $62k I can assure all and sundry here that the financials were a disaster but the sailing gains were tremendous which happened on a few occasions totalling maybe 36 hours.

Hooting across the Whitsunday Passage with full main and a flat cut tri-radial with the pole an inch off the forestay at 12 knots with the dirtiest bottom you could imagine confirmed for me that Doug Peterson knew what he was doing when he designed yachts.

One thing is for certain here. This yacht, 37 years after being built, is a living testimony to the longevity of properly built aluminium yachts.

The original owner/builder drove her onto Bramston Reef out of Bowen at 8 knots and she bounced off with just a few scratches.

I would own her again but she is more yacht than I want. If anybody wants a ball tear yacht to sail around the world, ENVY II is up to the job.

Do such yachts (alloy or steel ) have the provision in their fitout design to access all areas of the hull to check for rust/corrosion etc ??.

ENVY II was owner built by Mel Hewitt an ex federal copper in close collaboration with Reg Brost who was a superb steel boat builder of mainly Adams 35s and 28s.
She was built in 1982 at the old Evans Deacon dry dock yard at Kangaroo Point, Brisbane. After Envy was built Reg declared he would no longer build in steel, only aluminium. I am with him and would not own another steel boat.

Yes Sam, generally all parts of a metal hull are accessible.

My experience,
The traveller and large wheel, and cockpit table is going to be a pain. I do like to use a traveller but Climbing over it every time you want to get to the wheel is going to wear your energy supply down. Also if it has a cast iron keel it's worth getting it inspected before purchased by a good approved marine surveyor.
you don't want a cast iron bolt on like the 2 year old dufour pictured below.

Looks a long way from what Crowther would have penned, those outboards are far too much weight aft.

sailormate said..
Hi southface,

Keel is cast lead and has stainless bolts so I don't worry about that (I think all firts has that...). It is true about the cockpit entering but I really like that the traveler is on the back and also more important for me, that the boom is mounted ti the sheet at the back of the boom. I broke the boom on the bavaria 46 at accidental gybe in the med and I am certain that this happened since boom was mounted almost at the halfway (this is just from my bad experience and probably is not a general rule).

Maybe, when I am on the anchorage for more days, I just remove the wheel and put it away and whilst on the passage, autopilot will do his job... till it breaks

I would still worry about the stainless steel bolts and crevice corrosion. That damn crevice corrosion is the biggest problem with many areas of use of stainless steel, also in the rigging and rigging fittings. Happens in industry too. Customer last week sent me photo of a water tank with a neat 5c size hole punched through a corner of his stainless steel tank. Dirt got in to the tank, and away went the crevice corrosion.

Wander66 said..
A William Fife 40 here for $1k just needs some TLC

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/woodend/sail-boats/william-fife-yacht-40-/1209441240?utm_source=criteo&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=LF6-sailboat&utm_content=61714_18420

A William Fife 47 $500k sail away no more to pay, very pretty

www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1928-william-fife-47/OAG-AD-15009573/?cr=0&psq=(And.Service.Boatsales._.Make.WILLIAM%20FIFE.)&pso=0&pss=Premium

On that note, this's been on the market a while and may come down in price....
i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XYgAAOSwA0JciKbV/s-l800.webp
www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/cygnet/sail-boats/timber-boat/1212708425

Bundeenabuoy said..


I think I saw a list of the Australian S$S 34's with their name and production date somewhere?

Morningbird is heavily involved with this lot.

www.ss34.org/

I know some of you may not find this interesting... but I sure do. Interested in thoughts about this boat? They seem pretty popular in the charter circles... For some ex-charter boats are a turnoff but I do like the twin wheels giving easy circulation of humans around the cockpit.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/jeanneau-sun-odyssey-40/218402

FelixdeCat said..

I know some of you may not find this interesting... but I sure do. Interested in thoughts about this boat? They seem pretty popular in the charter circles... For some ex-charter boats are a turnoff but I do like the twin wheels giving easy circulation of humans around the cockpit.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/jeanneau-sun-odyssey-40/218402

pets and aliens could circulate around that cockpit as well !!

My mate has his Elliott 780 for sale if anyone is after a racer https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/geeveston/sail-boats/yacht-sports-boat/1213553021



Regards Don

Lot of boat for the money. I always thought they were built by Duncansons.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/skania-32-sloop/231099

There will be huge drops and lots of bargains this year and next I reckon.Only problem is selling the one you've got or having a fleet!
www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/hunter-240/231181