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Datawiz
Datawiz
VIC
605 posts
VIC, 605 posts
9 Jun 2019 11:19am
Now this is my dream boat. Have seen it in the flesh - it's perfect.
It's for the serious or full time cruiser - unfortunately, I Just don't have the time to do it justice.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/najad-391/214214
allan
Craig66
Craig66
NSW
2466 posts
NSW, 2466 posts
9 Jun 2019 11:58am



No price
No phone number.

Bet the wife said.
Sell that bloody boat.
Husband said.
I have a for sale sign on it but not getting any calls yet
Azure305
Azure305
NSW
402 posts
NSW, 402 posts
9 Jun 2019 2:56pm
...ahhhh the MacGregor - weird things. when you're on a reach doing 6 or 7 knots and do you think you're doing ok, and one of these things flies past you, bear masted, at 15 knots or more - just weird!
Donk107
Donk107
TAS
2446 posts
TAS, 2446 posts
9 Jun 2019 3:04pm
Craig66 said..



No price
No phone number.

Bet the wife said.
Sell that bloody boat.
Husband said.
I have a for sale sign on it but not getting any calls yet


Love them or hate them but when one comes up for sale down here they don't seem to last for long on the market

What ever happen to the bloke had plans to sail one up the WA coast a few years ago

Regards Don
Azure305
Azure305
NSW
402 posts
NSW, 402 posts
9 Jun 2019 3:21pm
It's not that I hate them, in fact I think they're pretty cool looking, but they're just weird!
Considering they ceased production in 2013 they still get good money for them, and you're bang on - they never seem to last long at all
actiomax
actiomax
NSW
1576 posts
NSW, 1576 posts
9 Jun 2019 3:25pm
They are actually more expensive now than when they were sold new .
It's the only boat I know of that appreciate's in value.
Craig66
Craig66
NSW
2466 posts
NSW, 2466 posts
9 Jun 2019 3:36pm
AzureF305 said..
...ahhhh the MacGregor - weird things. when you're on a reach doing 6 or 7 knots and do you think you're doing ok, and one of these things flies past you, bear masted, at 15 knots or more - just weird!


The 60hp merc hanging of the back would account for that
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
9 Jun 2019 10:41pm
Datawiz said..
Now this is my dream boat. Have seen it in the flesh - it's perfect.
It's for the serious or full time cruiser - unfortunately, I Just don't have the time to do it justice.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/najad-391/214214
allan


Very nice yacht ! Love the idea of the slutter rig !! for cruising . Needs a folding prop and slab reefing though .
Datawiz
Datawiz
VIC
605 posts
VIC, 605 posts
10 Jun 2019 8:09am
SandS said..

Datawiz said..
Now this is my dream boat. Have seen it in the flesh - it's perfect.
It's for the serious or full time cruiser - unfortunately, I Just don't have the time to do it justice.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/najad-391/214214
allan



Very nice yacht ! Love the idea of the slutter rig !! for cruising . Needs a folding prop and slab reefing though .


Folding prop, yeah - but keep the in mast furling, it's a cruiser set up for single handing.
regards,
allan
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
10 Jun 2019 4:55pm
Datawiz said..

SandS said..


Datawiz said..
Now this is my dream boat. Have seen it in the flesh - it's perfect.
It's for the serious or full time cruiser - unfortunately, I Just don't have the time to do it justice.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/najad-391/214214
allan




Very nice yacht ! Love the idea of the slutter rig !! for cruising . Needs a folding prop and slab reefing though .



Folding prop, yeah - but keep the in mast furling, it's a cruiser set up for single handing.
regards,
allan


yeah maybe , just seems a shame to not have a good battened mainsail, because it would sail fairly well looking at the underwater shape ect .
sydchris
sydchris
NSW
387 posts
MichaelR
MichaelR
NSW
862 posts
NSW, 862 posts
11 Jun 2019 1:00pm


That's Blue Moon. Junkette rigged and a really good example of a Top Hat. I believe it's sold and now living in QLD, having just traveled up to the Gold Coast to deliver her to her new owner, with a couple of other boats from Camden Haven who are continuing on to the Whitsundays.
sydchris
sydchris
NSW
387 posts
NSW, 387 posts
11 Jun 2019 1:30pm
MichaelR said..




That's Blue Moon. Junkette rigged and a really good example of a Top Hat. I believe it's sold and now living in QLD, having just traveled up to the Gold Coast to deliver her to her new owner, with a couple of other boats from Camden Haven who are continuing on to the Whitsundays.


New owner may have had a change of heart, or at least plans, according to the sales text anyway.

I guess "junkette" is another word for "fully battened gaff main" ?
MichaelR
MichaelR
NSW
862 posts
NSW, 862 posts
11 Jun 2019 2:12pm
sydchris said..

MichaelR said..






That's Blue Moon. Junkette rigged and a really good example of a Top Hat. I believe it's sold and now living in QLD, having just traveled up to the Gold Coast to deliver her to her new owner, with a couple of other boats from Camden Haven who are continuing on to the Whitsundays.



New owner may have had a change of heart, or at least plans, according to the sales text anyway.

I guess "junkette" is another word for "fully battened gaff main" ?


Wow, interesting. I was texting yesterday with the previous owner who's a member here too, and he just got through telling me about sailing her up to QLD to deliver her to her new owner..... how things change in such a short time.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
NSW, 1239 posts
11 Jun 2019 8:19pm
Please tell me why this is not great buying?
What is that repair patch on the hull?
No engine photo?

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1980-sparkman-stephens-34/OAG-AD-16889537/?Cr=3&psq=(And.Service.Boatsales._.Make.SPARKMAN%20&%20STEPHENS.)&pso=0&pss=Premium
Craig66
Craig66
NSW
2466 posts
NSW, 2466 posts
11 Jun 2019 8:34pm
Bundeenabuoy said..
Please tell me why this is not great buying?
What is that repair patch on the hull?
No engine photo?

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1980-sparkman-stephens-34/OAG-AD-16889537/?Cr=3&psq=(And.Service.Boatsales._.Make.SPARKMAN%20&%20STEPHENS.)&pso=0&pss=Premium



1980 built, when did sail drives start being used?
Slip photos have date stamp 17/Jan/2017 and interior 26/Jan/2019

And what do you call that old rope ladder?
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
11 Jun 2019 10:34pm
It is not an S&S34. The stern is too wide. I have seen it advertised elsewhere where it is admitted to be a Roberts knock off.

Apart from that it looks to be an OK buy for the price.

However, if you want to own a metal hulled yacht I would recommend something like this.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/van-de-stadt-34/230593

or this. My preference is for Seal built from aluminium.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/van-de-stadt-34/222900
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
12 Jun 2019 6:38pm
Bundeenabuoy said..
Please tell me why this is not great buying?
What is that repair patch on the hull?
No engine photo?

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1980-sparkman-stephens-34/OAG-AD-16889537/?Cr=3&psq=(And.Service.Boatsales._.Make.SPARKMAN%20&%20STEPHENS.)&pso=0&pss=Premium


steel , rust repair maybe , if the engine looked good they would have shown it .
Chris249
Chris249
357 posts
357 posts
12 Jun 2019 4:59pm
Bundeenabuoy said..
Please tell me why this is not great buying?
What is that repair patch on the hull?
No engine photo?

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1980-sparkman-stephens-34/OAG-AD-16889537/?Cr=3&psq=(And.Service.Boatsales._.Make.SPARKMAN%20&%20STEPHENS.)&pso=0&pss=Premium


I'm 99.999999% sure it's a Roberts, and a much earlier design than 1980. I don't know if S&S ever designed a hard chine yacht at all.

The interior looks nice. The hull is tough because it withstood something that dented the port waterline significantly - perhaps the same sort of big log that smashed up my boat a few moorings upstream.
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
GKandCC
GKandCC
NSW
218 posts
NSW, 218 posts
16 Jun 2019 11:45pm





Surely that should be advertised as a 'party boat'... but where are all the paisley designs on that lovely yellow paint job...or maybe 'The last Scupper'...at that price, loaded-to-the-hilt (boat and occupants) with throw-away generation kids all having a ball on New Years Eve on Sydney Harbour...BYO booze and life jackets. On a more serious note is that really a launch year of 2015, or is that after a 60 year refit.
cisco
cisco
QLD
12365 posts
QLD, 12365 posts
17 Jun 2019 8:41am
The Hobbit's boat??
samsturdy
samsturdy
NSW
1659 posts
NSW, 1659 posts
17 Jun 2019 11:04am
Even by Tassie standards THAT"S a shed.
Shanty
Shanty
QLD
487 posts
QLD, 487 posts
17 Jun 2019 4:06pm
Chris249 said..

Bundeenabuoy said..
Please tell me why this is not great buying?
What is that repair patch on the hull?
No engine photo?

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1980-sparkman-stephens-34/OAG-AD-16889537/?Cr=3&psq=(And.Service.Boatsales._.Make.SPARKMAN%20&%20STEPHENS.)&pso=0&pss=Premium



I'm 99.999999% sure it's a Roberts, and a much earlier design than 1980. I don't know if S&S ever designed a hard chine yacht at all.

The interior looks nice. The hull is tough because it withstood something that dented the port waterline significantly - perhaps the same sort of big log that smashed up my boat a few moorings upstream.


Strange looking boat, looks like it was based around an s&s 34
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
VIC, 5904 posts
17 Jun 2019 8:02pm
GKandCC said..







Surely that should be advertised as a 'party boat'... but where are all the paisley designs on that lovely yellow paint job...or maybe 'The last Scupper'...at that price, loaded-to-the-hilt (boat and occupants) with throw-away generation kids all having a ball on New Years Eve on Sydney Harbour...BYO booze and life jackets. On a more serious note is that really a launch year of 2015, or is that after a 60 year refit.


The timber work looks newish in the photos . They say its the third one he has built . Sailed it across the straight ...... again , each to their own. Not to my taste , Interesting though !
woko
woko
NSW
1792 posts
NSW, 1792 posts
17 Jun 2019 8:24pm
Very reminiscent of Bolgers box boats, sailed & motored very well apparently but we're just too ugly to catch on
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
Chris249
Chris249
357 posts
357 posts
18 Jun 2019 10:00am
woko said..
Very reminiscent of Bolgers box boats, sailed & motored very well apparently but we're just too ugly to catch on



There are a bunch of people, including former owners of Bolgers, who say they often sailed quite poorly. For a semi-objective viewpoint I looked up the race results I could find and the Bolgers generally re-shaped the boundaries of sloooooooow. I know that speed is not everything, but still.....

One of the boats that some Bolgerphiles pointed to, for example, was a Light Schooner in South Australia. It did OK in long downwind races but it was handicapped slower than the standard older cruiser/racer trailables of the same length, which had to drag around the weight of full interiors whereas the Bolger was an open boat. By open boat standards it was very slow.

Cute boat, and I wouldn't mind a box boat myself, but most of them seem to perform poorly and some ex-owners say some of them were unsafe. Even if speed is not the issue, their safety and ease of handling appear to be dubious when compared to a conventional boat reefed down to the same speed.
Chris249
Chris249
357 posts
357 posts
18 Jun 2019 10:05am
Shanty said..

Chris249 said..


Bundeenabuoy said..
Please tell me why this is not great buying?
What is that repair patch on the hull?
No engine photo?

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1980-sparkman-stephens-34/OAG-AD-16889537/?Cr=3&psq=(And.Service.Boatsales._.Make.SPARKMAN%20&%20STEPHENS.)&pso=0&pss=Premium




I'm 99.999999% sure it's a Roberts, and a much earlier design than 1980. I don't know if S&S ever designed a hard chine yacht at all.

The interior looks nice. The hull is tough because it withstood something that dented the port waterline significantly - perhaps the same sort of big log that smashed up my boat a few moorings upstream.



Strange looking boat, looks like it was based around an s&s 34


I know the boat, and it's got nothing to do with an S&S 34. The sections are completely different, the deck is completely different, the topsides are completely different, the stern width and sections are utterly different, the steelie has none of the S&S bustle and different rocker, the keel and rudder are very different, one is a soft bilge and the other hard chine, etc.
Donk107
Donk107
TAS
2446 posts
TAS, 2446 posts
18 Jun 2019 6:51pm
Interested in hearing everyones thoughts on this one

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/mottle-33-excellent-presentation-many-upgrades-as-new-motor/233705

Regards Don
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