yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/mg-spring-25/312612

Ramona said..

r13 said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/mg-spring-25/312612

Interesting little yacht. These were featured in the TV series "Howards Way" which was on the ABC. The story line was basically about setting up to build these.

www.yachtsnet.co.uk/archives/mg-spring-25/mg-spring-25.htm

Some were put into the flotilla charter fleet in Greece.
I had a week aboard one out of Corfu in '92. Nice little boats. Very spacious.

Build a nice aluminium trailer and you're all set.

www.ebay.com.au/itm/395510488415?itmmeta=01J1XAYMT2266V4JRRH4D9VD8M&hash=item5c16431d5f:g:NSQAAOSw0x1mgUu6

Planeray said..
Anyone in TAS know what the deal is with this boat?

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/costin-31-canting-keel/313016

Seems a steal for the price - is there something wrong with it? Or just a wet boat that's not going to be super popular in colder climes?

On the down side:

1. It's made of kevlar which means that if it you bust it and get it wet it's f****d.

2. It has ply decks which means that they have a shelf life before they get soft.

3. If you break anything it's going to cost massive money to fix.

4. It probably needs the kind of skills to sail it that people asking questions on here (me included) don't have.

On the up side

1. It looks like just about the most fun you could have with your clothes on or off on for 10 grand.

2. You could probably part it out and double your money if you aren't getting stung on marina fees.

3. It still looks like just about the most fun you could have with your clothes on or off on for 10 grand.

If you buy it please pm me to go for a sail.....

Planeray said..
Yeh, still scratching my head on the price though. It's a relatively modern 31 footer with a diesel and a bunch of sails. Unless there's some serious problems with it, I think I'd take all of your downsides on the chin.

Heck, even if I paid for it to be transported by road to Sydney it'd still be worth it - although my female crew members would probably moan if there's not a head on board. Apparently the buckets shown don't cut the mustard with them!

I think it's that rare beast - a boat that is realistically priced. Rather than leaving it sit there for 12 months unsold based on some unrealistic idea like most of the boats on Yachthub, maybe the owner just wants to sell it....

cammd said..

JonE said..

Planeray said..
Yeh, still scratching my head on the price though. It's a relatively modern 31 footer with a diesel and a bunch of sails. Unless there's some serious problems with it, I think I'd take all of your downsides on the chin.

Heck, even if I paid for it to be transported by road to Sydney it'd still be worth it - although my female crew members would probably moan if there's not a head on board. Apparently the buckets shown don't cut the mustard with them!

I think it's that rare beast - a boat that is realistically priced. Rather than leaving it sit there for 12 months unsold based on some unrealistic idea like most of the boats on Yachthub, maybe the owner just wants to sell it....

10k for a 30ft keel boat is not realistic, its unrealistically ridiculously cheap imo. Thats the price of a laser dinghy, probably not even a new one.

10 year old laser dinghy is about 4K. When you need a new mast it will cost you about 700 for a bottom section and a little bit more for the top section.

when you want a new mast on that boat it will cost you 40 grand.

when you want a new main it will cost you 15 grand

When your laser is sitting in the club yard it will cost you 500 bucks to leave it there for another year.

that boat is probably costing the owner 500 a month in that marina.

cammd said..

JonE said..

cammd said..

JonE said..

Planeray said..
Yeh, still scratching my head on the price though. It's a relatively modern 31 footer with a diesel and a bunch of sails. Unless there's some serious problems with it, I think I'd take all of your downsides on the chin.

Heck, even if I paid for it to be transported by road to Sydney it'd still be worth it - although my female crew members would probably moan if there's not a head on board. Apparently the buckets shown don't cut the mustard with them!

I think it's that rare beast - a boat that is realistically priced. Rather than leaving it sit there for 12 months unsold based on some unrealistic idea like most of the boats on Yachthub, maybe the owner just wants to sell it....

10k for a 30ft keel boat is not realistic, its unrealistically ridiculously cheap imo. Thats the price of a laser dinghy, probably not even a new one.

10 year old laser dinghy is about 4K. When you need a new mast it will cost you about 700 for a bottom section and a little bit more for the top section.

when you want a new mast on that boat it will cost you 40 grand.

when you want a new main it will cost you 15 grand

When your laser is sitting in the club yard it will cost you 500 bucks to leave it there for another year.

that boat is probably costing the owner 500 a month in that marina.

It costs money to own and race yachts, if you think it doesn't your not being realistic are you.

Now for someone wanting to race a 30ft keel boat, unless there is some major problem we are not aware of, that boat is a very very cheap starting point.

So the buyer is all of these things:

1. A pretty good sailor
2. Not really care about winning (20yo design - what do you think that keel and the exotics is going to do to the rating?)
3. Not want to fleet race
4. Not go off shore (need a dunny and some more accommodation for cat 2)
5. Not want to trailer it to any other places / regattas
6. Be ok with a canting keel

How many of those people do you reckon are floating around Tasmania right now looking for a boat?

So the boat plus cost of trucking it to anywhere on the mainland plus the first year's marina fees and expenses is what 30K?

If you make that a "realistic price" - say 30 grand? 40 grand?

Fareast 28's are starting at 60 grand sticker price on Yachthub. For a 6 year old boat. Trailable. Fleet racing (so competitive). Take it anywhere.

cammd said..

JonE said..

laneray said..
Yeh, still scratching my head on the price though. It's a relatively modern 31 footer with a diesel and a bunch of sails. Unless there's some serious problems with it, I think I'd take all of your downsides on the chin.

Heck, even if I paid for it to be transported by road to Sydney it'd still be worth it - although my female crew members would probably moan if there's not a head on board. Apparently the buckets shown don't cut the mustard with them!

I think it's that rare beast - a boat that is realistically priced. Rather than leaving it sit there for 12 months unsold based on some unrealistic idea like most of the boats on Yachthub, maybe the owner just wants to sell it....

10k for a 30ft keel boat is not realistic, its unrealistically ridiculously cheap imo. Thats the price of a laser dinghy, probably not even a new one.

Its amazing what kind of mischief $10K will get you into :

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/custom/309971

Could be fun with a few skiffie mates !?

SEABREEZE SYNDICATE- out on the RAIL ! = Tempting ?
+ has interesting history / great pedigree .

r13 said..

Ramona said..

Andrew68 said..

Its amazing what kind of mischief $10K will get you into :

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/custom/309971

Famous yacht that has had a few owners. I would buy it!

Lydia can provide all the history. A real shame that it has come to $10k - worth a lot more than that.

I've seen it a lot cheaper!

Ahhh, the Woodyard. Great boat even if the rudder couldn't take some idiot hitting a sunfish off Eden at surfing speeds.

Might actually be a 32 not a 35. The 35 footers are worth heaps.

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/southport/sail-boats/nicholson-35/1326260363

Ramona said..
Cheap Defiance.

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/rathmines/sail-boats/for-sale-30-foot-s-and-s-stevenson-and-sparkman-i/1325618511

Not actually a Defiance design 2098

Chris 249 said..
Yah, it's one of the S&S Aqua 30s Syd Fisher built.

Still a good buy and seriously let down by a poor ad. Why have a series of photos the same. Are the S&S Aqua 30's the timber hulls with the fibreglass decks?