cisco said..

cammd said..

I think the SS will be cheaper upfront and possibly to own and maintain but "not as comfortable to live in" and "venture afar" as the Hallberg

No yacht smaller than a super tanker is comfortable to live in and even they are borderline.

I'm curious to know why Jon Sanders moved from a 34 to a 39, I'm betting the 39 was more comfortable.

saltiest1 said..

trixpan said..

0llie said..
How would these stack up against each other, I know there's some die-hard s & s fans here but no clouded judgement lol

From my perspective they seem like similar boats , just interested if anything is greatly reduced or improved in either design (performance wise, or ocean going capabilities) compared with one another?

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/310182





yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/hallberg-rassy-38/310176

Out of curiosity, why you chose that particular S&S 39 instead of

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/sparkman-stephens-39-offshore-coastal-cruiser-or-club-racer/301648

Or is your question a generic question about one boat design vs another?

That's actually my boat that's on the market now. Blue S&S39 "Kinya J". I'm happy to answer any questions. It's priced to sell quickly and a well proven live aboard and cruising boat. Also has done a couple of Sydney to Hobarts (Boss Bluebottle) and sails great as a club racer.

Lovely looking boat but well out my budget unfortunately

Looks like good value for venturing far and wide

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/meta-expedition/310447

and this one, got all the gear

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/pocock-11-58-38ft/310261

cammd said..
Looks like good value for venturing far and wide

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/meta-expedition/310447

The Meta didn't last long, I thought it was well priced and highly desirable.

EastCoastSail said..

cammd said..
Looks like good value for venturing far and wide

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/meta-expedition/310447

The Meta didn't last long, I thought it was well priced and highly desirable.

There was a Aluminium Radford for sale when I was looking, had a pilot house and well set up for cruising but looked a little neglected from the photos. It was a lot cheaper (50% less) than the one I bought so I had serious interest. It was a private sale (no broker), an out of the way location that may have made getting an out of water survey difficult and the vendors mate (who was the contact) took days to respond with minimal info.

So all that put me off but the thing that scared me the most was buying a second hand aluminium boat, particularly if the previous owner was less than fastidious. A neglected aluminum boat could have a lot of hidden problems. A new aluminium boat is a different story, very desirable.

jbarnes85 said..
I love the look of this little Yamaha 25.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/yamaha-25-mkii/308929

Yes it is a total mystery to me why this has not sold by now.

A fractionally rigged and very optimised version of this yacht in the same hull geometry (but I expect not build scantlings.......) won the 1/4 ton cup in Japan 1978 where the breeze was >45kts and seas > 10ft in some races and a lot more in some other web links...........Chris and Lydia will chime in.....

rbsailing.blogspot.com/2015/09/quarter-ton-cup-1978.html

Not for sale but assumed dumped. Was in a tenants yard but after the tenants moved out this was left on the side of the road. No rego on trailer or boat.
Any idea what type of yacht, looks like it would have been fast in its day. Dagger bulb keel and open transom makes it look like a racing yacht. Really poor condition so I guess it may be up to the council to get it removed.

airsail said..
Not for sale but assumed dumped. Was in a tenants yard but after the tenants moved out this was left on the side of the road. No rego on trailer or boat.
Any idea what type of yacht, looks like it would have been fast in its day. Dagger bulb keel and open transom makes it look like a racing yacht. Really poor condition so I guess it may be up to the council to get it removed.











Somebody please post this on Trailersailer place with the address so that it has a chance to be rescued before the council takes it to the tip.

Woohoo said..

airsail said..
Not for sale but assumed dumped. Was in a tenants yard but after the tenants moved out this was left on the side of the road. No rego on trailer or boat.
Any idea what type of yacht, looks like it would have been fast in its day. Dagger bulb keel and open transom makes it look like a racing yacht. Really poor condition so I guess it may be up to the council to get it removed.

In Scarborough, on the Redcliffe Peninsula.
I've seen it in two locations over the past few days.

Currently parked at the bottom of James St on Prince Edward Ave, saw it in Osbourne St before for a short period.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/fred-barrett-36-performance-racer-cruiser-new-rigging-excellent-electronics-many-upgrades/310800
this looks like a weapon

Good value Scampi 30

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mooloolaba/sail-boats/30-foot-scampi-yacht/1324982369

JonE said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/fred-barrett-36-performance-racer-cruiser-new-rigging-excellent-electronics-many-upgrades/310800
this looks like a weapon

The mast, winches and sails are worth considerably more than the asking price of the whole boat and that's without the instruments.

It's strange that as soon as timber is mentioned the boat takes a big price hit yet most fiberglass yachts have a balsa core anyway.

I guess to be fair I wouldn't buy the yacht because it requires periodic painting whereas a true fiberglass yacht should have a gelcoat finish that should last four + times as long as paint.

There are also definitely accommodation compromises to be paid for the extra speed but looks to be excellent buying for the right person.

julesmoto said..

JonE said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/fred-barrett-36-performance-racer-cruiser-new-rigging-excellent-electronics-many-upgrades/310800
this looks like a weapon

The mast, winches and sails are worth considerably more than the asking price of the whole boat and that's without the instruments.

It's strange that as soon as timber is mentioned the boat takes a big price hit yet most fiberglass yachts have a balsa core anyway.

I guess to be fair I wouldn't buy the yacht because it requires periodic painting whereas a true fiberglass yacht should have a gelcoat finish that should last four times as long as paint.

There are also definitely accommodation compromises to be paid for the extra speed but looks to be excellent buying for the right person.

The paint would be a two pot polyurethane and better than any gelcoat!

Composite western red cedar would suggest epoxy strip plank , which intern would suggest epoxy glued planks, if one was to extrapolate that a tad further one could assume epoxy glass sheath and an epoxy paint system. Just my 2 bobs worth

woko said..
Composite western red cedar would suggest epoxy strip plank , which intern would suggest epoxy glued planks, if one was to extrapolate that a tad further one could assume epoxy glass sheath and an epoxy paint system. Just my 2 bobs worth

mmmmmm epoxy