Ramona said..
Nice looking Defiance SS30

www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/793658214632909/?media_id=0&ref=share_attachment

That link took me to a weird page on FB.
I saw this S&S a couple of days ago - Is this the one you mean ?

www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/537727820603776/?ref=facebook_story_share

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/fairlight/sail-boats/holland-30/1271767789

Would be interesting to find what the inboard is, and what's wrong. I don't know anything about these as far as yachts, would like to see more inside photos... maybe a project for someone

Both those 1/2 toners where glamour boats in the day.
Cost of repower is so cheap now you would just do it.
Think I paid $11 400 for the 28 hp Venus with all the hoses, strainer, fuel filter, filler lock and pong box and coupling and mounts all thrown in the deal at the time with Defiance

lydia said..
Both those 1/2 toners where glamour boats in the day.
Cost of repower is so cheap now you would just do it.
Think I paid $11 400 for the 28 hp Venus with all the hoses, strainer, fuel filter, filler lock and pong box and coupling and mounts all thrown in the deal at the time with Defiance

Casablanca a Peterson 1/2 tonner?

Bananabender said..

lydia said..
Both those 1/2 toners where glamour boats in the day.
Cost of repower is so cheap now you would just do it.
Think I paid $11 400 for the 28 hp Venus with all the hoses, strainer, fuel filter, filler lock and pong box and coupling and mounts all thrown in the deal at the time with Defiance

Casablanca a Peterson 1/2 tonner?

Yep but not the Santana 30 type but the foxy lady hull

lydia said..

Planeray said..
Amazing looking boat here: www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bundall/sail-boats/duncanson-33-racing-cruising-yacht/1276700885. Seems to be a one off, but a great mix of racing & cruising. Some more photos on this listing for it boatdeckwebsites.com.au/yb/listing/duncanson-33-3/

Think it's priced a little high though, given what you can get for around the $40k mark. Hard to say as I've literally never seen one of these for sale before.

Unfortunately about 1500 kg over design weight
quite nicely built but way over weight with all the gear too heavy
never really got up and went

Oh really? Like I said, I've never seen the design before at all. Do you know of any other ones about the place? Anytime I search on duncansons, I only find other, more cruise oriented designs. You'd think that if they're going to the effort of water ballast etc, there'd be loads of weight saving done. I was sorta surprised to see a full galley & lounge belowdecks.

Looks like it'd need a fairly extensive electrics/electronics refit too.

Might be totally wrong but it looks more like a Binks 25 with 5ft added to the stern. B30 here;

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/farr-b30/264216

B25 here;

johncrawfordmarine.com.au/binks-25/13-binks-b25-sea-test-write-up/file

Bundeenabuoy said..
Alubat Ovni 435 Fully surveyed and equipped for unlimited cruising.
The video is worth a look.

This will get people going.
These do not have an AVS of 90 or greater ie less than 90 degrees depending on rig weight

So is it the boat or how we measure AVS?

Snowgoose said..
www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/734362467439690/ thoughts on this one? It's above my budget of $4k but I did offer that amount..

Now we are talking! That is a seriously well fitted out Tophat and worth the money. The standing headroom will make all the difference.

The furling head sail and all the reefing lines back to the cockpit is actually what I would consider the bare necessities for single handed sailing [or sailing with a wife etc] even in Sydney Harbour. The anchor winch is a bit over the top for a 25 footer but shows that the previous owner did not scrimp on fitting out.

Now I've found this one:

www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4417054438323109/?ref=facebook_story_share


Which was sold last year for $4k less via Grays
www.grays.com/lot/0001-10080148/sail-boats/circa-1986-24ft-pacific-707-yacht

Comes with mooring in Gladesville however boat rego has run out 6 days ago. Current owner has put a new motor in it as well (new, not sure how 'new')

These are just Southerly 23 hulls. The outboard is excellent but way too big. Boat is overpriced!

Ramona said..
These are just Southerly 23 hulls. The outboard is excellent but way too big. Boat is overpriced!

Yes I think a bit if the running/standing/rigging + sails will need to be replaced at that age?

Snowgoose said..

Azure305 said..

Snowgoose said..
www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/734362467439690/ thoughts on this one? It's above my budget of $4k but I did offer that amount..

Yep, put this one at the top of your list for sure!
Even you you pay a little more now, it'll be nowhere what you'll pay bringing the TB up to anywhere near the same as this. More space, more headroom, more everything....

Yes, it certainly is alot more of everything lol..I'm really liking the headroom.. Owner came back to me and said $6k. Don't know if it would still be around by the time I can pay that price though

Go and see him and the boat.Tell him your predicament and that you love his boat. Write up a simple option contract. You pay him 4000 now for the option to buy it for 2000 anytime in the next 4 months say. Explain to him that if you fail to come up with the extra 2000 he keeps the 4000 which pretty much assures him that you will go through with it and meanwhile it stays in his name. Then you come to a separate agreement to lease it for a dollar for the next 4? months. Presumably he has it insured. Options are often used in real estate and of course shares not to mention many other things. If you are short of money you do not want one that you have to fix up. It is far far cheaper to buy one with everything you need on it and already in the condition that you want. Take a look at the price of things on the internet such as anchors, rope, sails, turning blocks, winches and antifouling paint...

The Tophat is twice as good as a Southerly 23. The Southerly 23 [707] is the equivalent of an Endeavour 24. The tophat is an older design but a better boat to sail all around. The fit-out sets this Tophat apart.