LeeD said..
Big wave boards.
In 1984, I installed a mast track on my Steve Coletta 9'6" x 20.5" full gun. Maybe 85 liters, I rode it locally for 5 days to get used to it and took it to Oahu with 3 other boards in 1985.
Rode Phantoms to break it in and last day at Himalayas waaay outside. Wished it had more V thru the belly. Left it with Tom Castleton, a shaper who lived 500' from Velzyland.

And then what ?
Why are you telling us this?

Hoop, are you in second grade?
Read the title of this thtead!

LeeD I don't think you really know what you are talking about.

Firstly the brands not doing big wave boards was cleared up. Almost all brands now have bigger size wave boards in their line up with different focus.

I have had a 118 Goya Quad which was a proper down the line wave board but the wave ability meant it suffered a bit in the speed department. I am currently riding a 115 Severne Dyno. I have used that board in Margaret River, Gnaraloo, Lancelin... all down the line wave spots. Perhaps I am not as good as a sailor as you LeeD but this board has definitely expanded my time on the water. Both those boards are relatively wide and have a fat tail but you certainly don't notice it when you put in a turn.

The Evo 100 was a decent board on a wave but definitely was somewhat handicapped in the speed department. But then again it was the only 100 liter wave board at the time that actually worked. But comparing the Evo or any board from 10+ years ago to today's shapes doesn't make much sense.

You are the Donald trump of windsurfing.

Anyway, enough of LeeD blowing his own trumpet and slagging people off. Let's get back to the original question posted by Dcharlton.

One of the main reasons the major brands don't do larger prodction wave boards is that it can be hard to justify the mold and tooling costs if you will only sell limited numbers. The same goes for smaller size boards as well.
There are some good custom builders out there that will have large designs ready to go.
It's also a lot easier to design a board for 1 person's specific needs than it is to design a board that has to work for everyone.
There are some good ways to get big boards to work well, you just need to be clever with your design ( and be careful about who you take design advice from)

Why is the industry so reluctant to make big wave boards?

Given the actual question, not just the title, it is about big boards for waves.

Reading some of the comments (well, one sort of comment) they are, perhaps, about boards for big waves.


Perhaps some people best check before jumping straight in and helping their uncle jack off a horse this weekend ?

Carantoc said..
Why is the industry so reluctant to make big wave boards?

Given the actual question, not just the title, it is about big boards for waves.

Reading some of the comments (well, one sort of comment) they are, perhaps, about boards for big waves.


Perhaps some people best check before jumping straight in and helping their uncle jack off a horse this weekend ?

OR is it about Big Wave boards as in the board size and not the wave size......?

Great points on the Freewave boards, I've really loved my 3S 116. But when I compare it to the Goya 114 on the waves, it just doesn't compare. The Goya really helped me 'get' wave riding, although I've got a long way to go. I'm getting really stoked and most importantly, confident that I can actually handle logo high waves. I'm in the US in Rhode Island and it's been a big help to me.

Thanks for all the input!!

DC

And any sailor can ride "logo high waves".
You sail out the channel, jibe outside the building waves, wait for a swell to get steep, sheet in and drop in.
You don't even need to know how to waterstart!
Now sailing logo high in closed out beachbreak is another story.

Mark.
Bottom turn meaning both feet in straps, fully commited lay down into a cutback off the lip.
Not my 275 lb. bud, he just rode dtl, not using any straps.
Most of the fatso's on here are between my bud's in skill level.
Except for you, I'd bet none ever went past 1 round in any organized wave event.

Gorgesailor.
Have you even been to the coast?
Look and talk to the regulars at Newprt, Pistol, Cape, or any of the wave locales.
ALMOST no fat dudes! Certainly none that standout in skill.
Don't quote Dunk.
We,re talking amateur rec sailors who can bottom turn otl combos. That is the middle mum to be considered aware sailor.
Rec amateurs are the ones buying boards.

LeeD, sorry but you are arrogant. You say you're right and everyone else is wrong.
Did you see the vid (AlPlanet posted) of Boujmaa ripping on an Evo? Crap board and crap sailor hey? In crap conditions.
Numerous board reviews of Evo's being great. Nearly 20 people on this forum suggesting you may not have your facts correct. You suggesting nobody on this forum knows anything about the board, despite a number (including you) owning and having sailed Evo's.
Plenty of people (of varying talent) saying they currently use wide wave boards and have a great time. And sail those boards in conditions that aren't mush.

And then there's you, and your opinion. Highly likely, from what you describe, you are an experienced sailor, but that doesn't mean that what works for you will work for everyone else. You cane people who disagree with you, saying that they don't know how to sail or they're fat and unskilled. Where's you evidence for this? Have you seen any of these people sail? Nobody's seen you sail. You tell us all what a hero you are, but there's no evidence for this.

Not sure what point you are trying to make with going back thru history of board manufacture. I do remember there were some very talented sailors back in the 80's and 90's who were big and sailing waves and doing very well.

I am staggered at just how puffed up you are with your opinion....
Weight of evidence from previous posters, board reviews, videos etc. You obviously don't think it, but your opinion may not be right. Yes, it might not be right.

Go LeeD, make surf sailing great again! May your new boards all be skinnier than the last & the waves you ride be larger than my waistline.

Patriotism is the love of ones own country, nationalism is the hatred of others. There is only one person discussing this topic on the basis of nationality, one who can't tolerate any opinion other than his own.

FYI this thread is isolation G O L D, please continue...

philn said..

Brent in Qld said..


FYI this thread is isolation G O L D, please continue...

Anyone remember the guy who used to troll the forums? Was it Sinbad??? Is LeeD actually Sinbad?

He whose name shall not be mentioned!

LeeD said..
You dumbos.
F2 was making 96 liter a wave boards by mid '90's. Starlit's were bump boards.
Mistral made 123 liter full rockered
Shredders in the late '80"s.
Bic really did'nt make pure wave boards, but their production Saxos had too much tail kick for flat water and became a bump n jump at 100 liters. The light models were dead flat tail rockered.
Seatrend made 102 liter wave boards in late '80's.
Just in those days, while bigger sailors still rode waves, most wavesailing was done by smaller more nimble riders who were always past by you fatso's who were fast in flat water.
So more little guys BOUGHT more waveboards.
Now...2020, all you fat non athletes are riding waves, and doing pretty well.
So look at the size of pro wave riders. Some are up to 190.
Bjorn is much more.
Kevin and Matt 190....when they concentrated on waves.
But the hardcore wavesailors were still sub 180 lbs until the past 10 years when all of a sudden......you fat guys decided to expand to wave riding and tell yourselves.."I can do it".

LOL you have lost the plot.

You do realise the current world wave champion weighs 94kg and is more athletic that you will ever be.. he also rides 92litre wave boards that are wide.