Interesting boats for sale

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cisco
cisco
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1 Jan 2020 10:33pm
Lazzz said..

cisco said..

The upkeep on a steel yacht is just too intense i.e. daily.



Utter crap!!!


Mate, if the boat is right to start with, i.e. the protective coating (paint) has been done correctly and you attend to any damage to that coating when it happens, yeah sure, the boat could last 100 years, e.g. the James Craig has been restored and is doing the job these days.

However if a steel yacht is let go and not correctly maintained, you may never get ahead of it.

How long do you believe the paint system on a steel vessel is good for? I reckon 10 to 15 years about pulls it up.

So you have a steel yacht that is the apple of your eye. I did not say that steel yachts are no good. It is just another boat building material.

There is no need to get defensive or offensive about it. There are more tonnes of steel floating around the world I am sure than any other material except maybe plastic.

So from my experience in the Navy working on steel ships and from my experience of having owned a steel yacht I will rephrase my above comment to this:- I am not going to spend the time and effort required to maintain a steel yacht in pristine condition.

Are you happy now Lazzz??
Ramona
Ramona
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3 Jan 2020 8:13am
r13 said..
Wonder what the scope of "needs some work" is............

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/buff-point/sail-boats/sailing-yacht/1237478987?utm_source=copylink&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=web_VIP


How easy would it be to add some decent photos? Certainly costs the same to have 10 photos as 3 almost the same. I'll go out on a limb and say it's probably a round bilge steel Adams.
Nice looking mainsail and the backstay HF aerial indicates it was someones pride and joy at one time. Might be worth a phone call for more details. Never know these days. I was onboard Chutzpah the other day and wished the hell I had bought her when she sold for silly money!
dreamerdwnunder
dreamerdwnunder
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3 Jan 2020 2:53pm
Ramona said..

r13 said..
Wonder what the scope of "needs some work" is............

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/buff-point/sail-boats/sailing-yacht/1237478987?utm_source=copylink&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=web_VIP



How easy would it be to add some decent photos? Certainly costs the same to have 10 photos as 3 almost the same. I'll go out on a limb and say it's probably a round bilge steel Adams.
Nice looking mainsail and the backstay HF aerial indicates it was someones pride and joy at one time. Might be worth a phone call for more details. Never know these days. I was onboard Chutzpah the other day and wished the hell I had bought her when she sold for silly money!


Agreed, pretty hard to tell anything from effectively the one, undated low quality photo they put up.
Ramona
Ramona
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5 Jan 2020 5:53pm
Good starter boat and mooring have just had a price drop.

www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pacific-27-Yacht-1977-and-Mooring-Apparatus-Point-Clare-NSW/283615673112?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Yse8 diesel that looks like it could do with a clean up. Looking for a water front accomadation on the mid coast this might do fine.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
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5 Jan 2020 8:59pm
He'll probably sell it because of your sales pitch.
Which like all good ones is true.
troubadour
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6 Jan 2020 9:51am
Why don't people clean up and de clutter boats before taking pics for sale??
cisco
cisco
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6 Jan 2020 9:47am
troubadour said..
Why don't people clean up and de clutter boats before taking pics for sale??


Probably because in reality they are land lubbers.
Yara
Yara
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6 Jan 2020 1:43pm
troubadour said..
Why don't people clean up and de clutter boats before taking pics for sale??


Probably because the reason they are selling is they either have lost interest, or are unable to get to the boat conveniently.
Enter Jonathan, (Regatta et al), who buys and cleans them up before selling. A great neglected boat rescue service IMHO.
Ramona
Ramona
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7 Jan 2020 10:12am
troubadour said..
Why don't people clean up and de clutter boats before taking pics for sale??


Lately there seem to be a lot of deceased estate stuff or the owner is incapacitated. Family just wants the boat gone.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
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7 Jan 2020 2:55pm
Ramona said..

troubadour said..
Why don't people clean up and de clutter boats before taking pics for sale??



Lately there seem to be a lot of deceased estate stuff or the owner is incapacitated. Family just wants the boat gone.


The grim reaper never comes at a convenient time
Saltuarius
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Craig66
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troubadour
troubadour
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9 Jan 2020 12:30pm
Yes I understand there are often very good reasons for the state of a vessel in photos.

However I was astounded how many times when I was a surveyor conducting a condition and valuation inspection for insurance I had to take internal photos of vessels that were a mess. Plenty of time for the Owner to clean things up. Commercial vessels were often the worst with engine rooms to match.
KeenToLearn
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cisco
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14 Jan 2020 11:57am
This is only interesting because it show what some people are prepared to go on the water with. Not for any money would I buy something like this.

That being said I have to acknowledge that it is quite well put together.

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/burnett-heads/sail-boats/river-bay-motor-sailor/1229750196
Yara
Yara
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14 Jan 2020 1:32pm
cisco said..
This is only interesting because it show what some people are prepared to go on the water with. Not for any money would I buy something like this.

That being said I have to acknowledge that it is quite well put together.

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/burnett-heads/sail-boats/river-bay-motor-sailor/1229750196


Lots of boats said to be based on Slocumb's Spray. Don't know why they bother as Spray was not a wonderful design-it is what he could get for free. This one only vaguely resembles Spray.
samsturdy
samsturdy
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14 Jan 2020 1:43pm
Square windows....I was always told, no square corners on boats....they are points of infinite stress. I believe that law
lead to the demise of the Comet airliner...same thing...square windows.
woko
woko
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14 Jan 2020 3:36pm
Looks like it cross breed wth Bolgers birdwatcher !
cisco
cisco
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15 Jan 2020 12:30am
That Ericson is an awesome buy at that price. Even for $5k !!!
lydia
lydia
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15 Jan 2020 3:54am
Ramona said..

troubadour said..
Why don't people clean up and de clutter boats before taking pics for sale??



Lately there seem to be a lot of deceased estate stuff or the owner is incapacitated. Family just wants the boat gone.


Heading over the Cygnet today to check out a boat where the owner has passed and the boat broke its mooring and it is now on one of my moorings.
See if I can help them out.
If it is the boat I think it is a good one.
Ramona
Ramona
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18 Jan 2020 8:57am
"Big Schott"
Is this your old boat Cisco or a sister ship?

A lot of boat for the money!

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/townsville/sail-boats/yacht-peterson-42/1238722388

Go straight to Facebook for better photos.

www.facebook.com/groups/157260841726947/

Fooling about on my mates Cole alloy 42 footer last week. These are big boats!
waikikin
waikikin
NSW
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18 Jan 2020 7:08pm
Ramona said..
"Big Schott"
Is this your old boat Cisco or a sister ship?

A lot of boat for the money!

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/townsville/sail-boats/yacht-peterson-42/1238722388

Go straight to Facebook for better photos.

www.facebook.com/groups/157260841726947/

Fooling about on my mates Cole alloy 42 footer last week. These are big boats!


There's a lot to like about that one, wondering what the draft is.
r13
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18 Jan 2020 7:32pm
See here some of the colourful history. Certainly a big shot in the late 70's early-mid 80s.

cyca.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Offshore_November-December-1978.pdf

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Big-Schott-Lives-on-?page=1

Draft is probably around 7 foot as per this one?

www.yachtsfsbo.com/inquiry.php?ad_key=86186&d=1977_42_foot_Peterson_Peterson_42
cisco
cisco
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18 Jan 2020 10:07pm
Ramona said..
"Big Schott"
Is this your old boat Cisco or a sister ship?


No. Sistership. She was for sale same time I bought Envy II but not in survey and about the same price i.e. $75k.

I believe a guy at Airlie Beach bought Envy II (renamed by the bloke who bought her from me to Lady Katherine after his daughter) for $35k.

There was an alloy 40 ft Peterson in S.A. called Sunburst that sold for $25k.

That series of Peterson IOR 2 tonners are brilliant yachts.
Ramona
Ramona
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Jolene
Jolene
WA
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19 Jan 2020 4:18pm



Nearly bought that boat several years ago, wish I had,,,, I looked over it, then went back for another.
Have kept an eye out for it since. If it had come up again for sale 3 years ago for that price I would have put it on a cradle in my yard.
jbear
jbear
NSW
115 posts
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19 Jan 2020 8:25pm
She foam sandwich construction by memory
Ramona
Ramona
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20 Jan 2020 6:14pm
jbarnes85 said..
This older version of the compass 28 seems has a good engine. A compass 28 sold for $8k last week which I missed out on having a look at.

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1973-compass-northerner/OAG-AD-18267734/?Cr=0


That's a Northerner, has a timber fit-out. Compass 28 has fibreglass furniture. That replacement engine would not have been cheap!
lydia
lydia
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21 Jan 2020 5:37am


Not sure that is Swanson 36 unless the stern has been extended
Chris 249
Chris 249
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21 Jan 2020 10:51am
I think she was a custom or modified Swanson 36, not the standard glass one. She did the 1973 Hobart.
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