FangyFin DIY help, hints and show us ya fin page

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Stretchy
Stretchy
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11 Oct 2020 11:01am
Rob, I found soft foam a bit annoying with it getting dislodged, or weed still getting stuck. My latest method is a sandwich of silastic and soft thin plastic (from an old bucket).put a bit of Vaseline on the board, then screw the fin in and let it set.










remery
remery
WA
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11 Oct 2020 11:56am
Yeah, I haven't tried the foam in thick weed. It's pretty dense stuff and I made sure it sits a fraction in front. The fine stuff might still get in there.
olskool
olskool
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11 Oct 2020 2:24pm
What about EVA boomgrip?
Stretchy
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11 Oct 2020 1:00pm
Still too soft in my opinion, but you will be able to make it work
olskool
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11 Oct 2020 3:34pm
^ Maybe. Im not sailing in any weed, just shallow water.
kato
kato
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11 Oct 2020 7:31pm
I'm not using anything yet but has anyone tried Stickaflex calking adhesives and sanding it when dry ?
remery
remery
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11 Oct 2020 8:28pm
Ok, so the leading edge of the high density rubber moved away and it started picking up weed. Next try Kneed It.
Stretchy
Stretchy
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11 Oct 2020 9:22pm
kato said..
I'm not using anything yet but has anyone tried Stickaflex calking adhesives and sanding it when dry ?


Recommend you do Kato, this is what happened to my board not using a gasket


I tried caulk with no success. It fell apart
olskool
olskool
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12 Oct 2020 1:02am
Anyone tried flat rubber sheet?
fangman
fangman
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12 Oct 2020 6:04pm
olskool said..
Anyone tried flat rubber sheet?


I prefer no gasket at all, and if I have to use one, I like to keep it as thin as possible. The rubber sheet idea sounds like a good compromise between compressibility and strength. What glue would you use Olskool?
decrepit
decrepit
WA
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12 Oct 2020 6:37pm
I've used treadly inner tube rubber, and that didn't work real well, but my fins have a sharper point than fangy's, so it's hard to get a good firm glue fix, (I used contact cement)
olskool
olskool
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13 Oct 2020 1:30am
Ive got some insertion rubber sheet. So Contact cement or Gorilla glue. Gorilla expands slightly, so will conform to whatever shape reqd. Easy to apply then activate with a spray of water. Can be cut sanded etc.
Kato ive tried sanding sikaflex, not so easy. Its easier to cut to finish. Or form it up perfectly with metho or saliva upon application. Amazing how this stuff gets everywhere!!! I cringe everytime i use it. You get it looking sweet, then go ' i will just tweak it there'. Hey presto youve now got a stringy black mess to clean off a perfect white surface! I only use the black 291. Ive had white deteriorate many times after only a few years on boat projects.
Yachties now use Butyl rubber tape to bed fittings these days. Seals as well as Sika,but can be removed for servicing. So that may be an option.
Whats everyones favourite to fill the void in fin?
Expanding foam?
kato
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13 Oct 2020 7:43am
I use lots of Slickaflex for wood projects and tend to sand it with no issues. Wasn't sure how it would go with Ally. Yes it does get on everything
olskool
olskool
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13 Oct 2020 8:23am
^ You talkin the Woodworking maxbond/liquid nails stuff? That stuff sands ok.
kato
kato
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13 Oct 2020 1:05pm
olskool said..
^ You talkin the Woodworking maxbond/liquid nails stuff? That stuff sands ok.


Nah, liquid nails is useless except when installing chipboard flooring on joists.
elmo
elmo
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13 Oct 2020 11:14am
Sikaflex is pieceapiss to use

A release agent on you board, apply Sikaflex compound to fin flange then insert and tighten to desired thickness.
Leave for a day or two to set then trim.

Custom moulded to your board
fangman
fangman
WA
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13 Oct 2020 11:38am
elmo said..
Sikaflex is pieceapiss to use

A release agent on you board, apply Sikaflex compound to fin flange then insert and tighten to desired thickness.
Leave for a day or two to set then trim.

Custom moulded to your board


Agreed. It's my go-to method for thin gaskets, except, I use gladwrap as the 'release agent'.
olskool
olskool
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13 Oct 2020 1:42pm
Expanding foam for fin hollow?
fangman
fangman
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13 Oct 2020 11:51am
olskool said..
Expanding foam for fin hollow?


I haven't ever tried it Olskool ( mainly because I don't bother filling the hollow these days.)
olskool
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13 Oct 2020 3:44pm
^Copy that.
ka43
ka43
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13 Oct 2020 5:52pm
3M sup rail tape in the thinnest type works good.
kato
kato
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13 Oct 2020 6:08pm
Ok. Oiled the box, glad wrapped the board and Stickaflexed the fin . I'll post the results in a few days
remery
remery
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13 Oct 2020 7:12pm
I ended up going with "Session Saver", which is probably just Kneed It, with Alfoil instead of Gladwrap. It looks pretty good, hopefully with last more than one sail.
Imax1
Imax1
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14 Oct 2020 6:41am
fangman said..

olskool said..
Expanding foam for fin hollow?



I haven't ever tried it Olskool ( mainly because I don't bother filling the hollow these days.)


Why don't you cast a soft rubbery alloy
olskool
olskool
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14 Oct 2020 6:55am
The issue i have is i want the 1 fin to fit 2 different shaped boards. So im lookin for squishy but not too squishy.
elmo
elmo
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14 Oct 2020 6:00am
The Sikaflex is a soft polyurethane so should have sufficient compression to handle both.

Do the moulding on the worst gapped board. then trim on the other board.

The trick is not to make it to thin initially as you want to be able to compress(~20%) the rubber later when you do up things properly
fangman
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14 Oct 2020 7:37am
elmo said..
The Sikaflex is a soft polyurethane so should have sufficient compression to handle both.

Do the moulding on the worst gapped board. then trim on the other board.

The trick is not to make it to thin initially as you want to be able to compress(~20%) the rubber later when you do up things properly


+1 on what the muppet says Remember that you can reduce the width of the fillet by half at its widest point, which in turn makes your footprint substantially narrower and reduces the need for a greater compression range on the gasket material.
kato
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14 Oct 2020 7:17pm




Hard to get a good pic of the gasket. Sort of happy with it, I wanted to clean up the water flow around the filet for more speed rather than weed Issues. Might cast it again later and make it thicker. Glad wrap worked well
fangman
fangman
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14 Oct 2020 5:50pm
kato said..




Hard to get a good pic of the gasket. Sort of happy with it, I wanted to clean up the water flow around the filet for more speed rather than weed Issues. Might cast it again later and make it thicker. Glad wrap worked well


Don't worry about the gasket, it's high time you mowed the lawn instead Kato
kato
kato
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14 Oct 2020 9:21pm
fangman said..

kato said..




Hard to get a good pic of the gasket. Sort of happy with it, I wanted to clean up the water flow around the filet for more speed rather than weed Issues. Might cast it again later and make it thicker. Glad wrap worked well



Don't worry about the gasket, it's high time you mowed the lawn instead Kato


Mate..... I live in the bush ,very little lawn to keep me from water sports. Anyway the Roos mow the lawns
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