Wait, what was the original question asked by the OP before it was hijacked again by the " We are the biggest", " We have the most", " Biggest fleet since James Cook arrived" , " you wont be missed ", chest pumping pimping all started??
Sounds like a Trump speech.

And then some old dude had problems with the Wally, so I suggested he comes to a vic Wally event and we talk about it. And then he screamed at me I am the reason he will not buy a Wally Lt ! So informed him I don't really care !
and then Mr Wonderfull comes along and informs everyone I have issues and I was not speaking for him !

Chris 249 said..

lotofwind said..
Wait, what was the original question asked by the OP before it was hijacked again by the " We are the biggest", " We have the most", " Biggest fleet since James Cook arrived" , " you wont be missed ", chest pumping pimping all started??
Sounds like a Trump speech.

The original question was about centreboards. The hijack was started in the third post by a foiler who slung **** at centreboards. Raceboard and LT sailors then responded by specifically saying thAt foilers were great but that boards with centreboards were also good.

it only fell apart when people like you - who feel the need to abuse other people's kit - got involved. Just go back and read the first page. No longboard sailor insulted anyone's gear. Most of them clearly praised foils. Guys like Sailquik - who probably has spent more time going fast than anyone else here - also gave balanced views.

Dont blame the balanced people for the fact that there are one eyed numpties around

Mate, your adversary is just a kiter who doesn't know one end of a board from the other. Just email the moderator, I've found that keeps him out of the windsurfing forums for a little while

olskool said..
^ Nah, i dont think LOTO is to blame.

This time I agree lotto was being unusually centrist

decrepit said..

olskool said..
^ Nah, i dont think LOTO is to blame.

This time I agree lotto was being unusually centrist

Even Loto appears in favorable light when compared to Insufferable

Thanks guys
but what I am really proud about is the size of the Wally class we have in Melbourne !
you guys are more than welcome to pop in and have a look !

Also PYC will be finished soon and we should have weekly fleets of 30 + wallys
thanks for all your advice.

your more than welcome to came to any of our events which have been delayed and messed up with this covid
thing !

holefully at the backend of this summer we will be over this Covid fatigue our windsurfing will be back on
track !

If you want join PYC to race or social sail you will need a working with children card this hopefully eliminates
creepy people

Grantmac said..
Seattle has a relatively small, but dedicated, group of racers because it's so close to the Columbia River Gorge and Oregon coast that few people bother owning big race gear.

Both a Kona and LT fleet were attempted to be started but were frankly too boring to succeed, and that's racing where almost any fair class is still entertaining.
Almost nobody free sails raceboards anymore even though a lot own them. My Equipe 2 I think saw 1 day last year?

A kite foiler couldn't complete the winduro. For one they wouldn't fit under the bridges and even on a 20kt forecast about 1/4 of the course will be ~5kts.
The person who wrote that description is very enthusiastic but he speaks with a lot of hyperbole.

If you find plodding around on an LT entertaining then power to you. Just don't pretend it's a performance or even affordable option (my Equipe was free).

The internet is a strange, strange place. I'm sure in other contexts in your life you can cope with people having preferences that differ from your own, without denigrating their choice.

I have a short board, an LT, and a dinghy (a laser, also a 'slow' and 'antiquated' boat that gives me what a want from it: fun, close racing). It's all good. If windy, short board is the go to. If not, maybe the LT. Maybe I'll surf. It's ALL GOOD.

Why this is so hard is beyond me. Some of you just seem threatened by the current numbers of LT's. Relax, your short board/foil/floatie is still awesome!

^^^^^Is that because you wont be allowed with in 100m of the event.

But yeah, agreed, very sad that thats the world now.

It's not just Pedo's that don't get the card. There's quite a few offences that will exclude you that have nothing to do with kids

kato said..

If you want join PYC to race or social sail you will need a working with children card this hopefully eliminates
creepy people

WOW WWC check required for just turning up for a sail Got nothing to do with keeping kids safe.

No to join the club !

windsufering said..

Imax1 said..

kato said..
It's not just Pedo's that don't get the card. There's quite a few offences that will exclude you that have nothing to do with kids

OMG , I got busted growing a mull plant when I was 19 , can I still race Wally's 34 years later ?

It's not just parkdale it's going to be mandatory for all clubs !

Now that everyone knows , I guess I'll never be Australian Wally's champ , and I was soo close .

windsufering said..

Imax1 said..

kato said..
It's not just Pedo's that don't get the card. There's quite a few offences that will exclude you that have nothing to do with kids

OMG , I got busted growing a mull plant when I was 19 , can I still race Wally's 34 years later ?

It's not just parkdale it's going to be mandatory for all clubs !

????

maybe if you're a flag officer, or going to be training kids, but just to join up? I doubt it. something must've occurred at your club to prompt it.


kids are generally one (important) part of a club, but the club doesn't exist purely for them, or because of them. usually they operate junior programs at different times to the scheduled race times.

The more hoops a club places in front of prospective members to jump through just to join up and pay fees/race, the less likely it will be they'll get new members/survive.

Simple , you just need a police check to be able to buy a wally
..."...........
Ive been sucked into this
Im out.

windsufering said..
Thanks guys
but what I am really proud about is the size of the Wally class we have in Melbourne !
you guys are more than welcome to pop in and have a look !

Also PYC will be finished soon and we should have weekly fleets of 30 + wallys
thanks for all your advice.

your more than welcome to came to any of our events which have been delayed and messed up with this covid
thing !

holefully at the backend of this summer we will be over this Covid fatigue our windsurfing will be back on
track !

If you want join PYC to race or social sail you will need a working with children card this hopefully eliminates
creepy people

Bit off topic but are we serious! A working with children card just to race at a club!

What a great way to put off prospective sailors. Tas recently had their LT states. Infrequent sailors are seriously put off by all the existing memberships and insurance required and some don't even use Facebook etc to be able to enter. Without the help and encouragement from others they wouldn't bother. These initiatives are always well intentioned but people forget when you add them all together they are often onerous.

How about we just use that age old thing called common sense and tell any dodgy types they aren't welcome.

I've lost track of all the online annual subscriptions I need to maintain for my families sailing, windsurfing, working with children, soccer, nippers, swimming, 2 x epirbs etc etc.

2 experienced kayakers here recently found themself on front page news because they went for a downwind paddle on the Derwent in 40knots. Dopes on social media went into a frenzy about their interpretation of safety. Next we will have to register with authorities to go for a 5km windsurf.

Lets not forget that at the end of the day we are all winsurfers and all have a common interest in keeping or sport/hobby alive in all its glorious forms, united not divided.