KA360 said...
Pryde simply uses thicker/heavier materials because they don't want warranty claims.Sails being returned cost them money and their shareholders want profit.
Wasn't JP using black tinted fibreglass which the customers just presumed was carbon?do they still?

You've never used a NP sail have you? Apart from being one of the most expensive and less durable I cant find anything else.

qldnacra said...

I think it's quite funny that people go on so much about the weight of the sail. Just buy the brand you like the feel or look of or that your local shop sells so it's convenient and they are willing to trade back so you can update without totally blowing the budget. I think there would be more to gain by getting fit and losing some weight. I think the performance gains would be greater than if you had a sail that was a whole 100g heavier regardless of the brand.

barn said...



Obviously never sailed light gear!.. A bit of weight around the belly has zero swing weight, a bit of weight at the top of the sail, 4m in the air, is not negligible.. Also, some of us don't have any body weight to loose, or fitness to gain..

Unbelievable advantages come when you can knock of a few grams on every piece of kit, a kilo from the sail, half a kilo on the boom and mast, more on the extension and soon you've lost at least 30% of the rig weight..

Slowly the rest of the sail makers are realising that this is the direction the sport is going, unfortunate for the bottom line, because light materials are expensive.. (cut's into your 'premium' charge)

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And to answer another question, JP would rarely use a production sails, and he probably sails a JP five times a year. And while I'm breaking hearts, Santa is not real either..

BenKirk said...



What about the bike? You're right about the EXCELLENT NP marketing department

gregc said...

Im really surprised that anyone thinks that a pro sails a production board

CJW said...



I think Gregc is probably referring mostly to wave boards where custom boards painted up as production gear are a dime a dozen. As barn said, not common in the FS, slalom, Formula classes these days as the rules changed. If you think people like Kauli etal ride production boards most of the time you are living in a fastasy, have a look at the actual boards next time. I don't think Kauli has ridden a board longer than 220cm for years....you can't buy one that short from JP. I'm sure there is a push for more production gear to be used and no doubt some pros use exclusively production gear, but the dudes pushing the envelope, particularly those living on Maui with access to quattro ride some pretty radical stuff.

Dezza said...

I don't hear any of this stuff on the beach, why do you all get on-line to vent your thoughts?

world gone mad, if you like to windsurf just do it, who cares about the brand

barn said...

Where did all the Gay posts go? I put a lot of effort into those!!

I note, it's OK to relentlessly call Kitesurfers Gay, and also Freestyle windsurfing is flaming Gay. Boardshorts over wetsuit? TOTALLY GAY.. But the line is crossed when Gay in used in an unintelligent play on words to describe peeps fav brand..... You're labeled a Bigot..

Anywho..

Steven Van-Dinky-Donk is the Freestyle Champ, it was his second year on the tour.. He used to sail F2 and had a board called the Rodeo which he made his own, this is a popular board as it was a dedicated freestyle, unlike the freeride boards Jp sell..

We all asked him years ago why he wasn't taking the Big Bucks (relatively) from a big brand, and he said he liked the Rodeo, and he liked the people at F2.. They supported him when he was nobody..

If there is an underground scene in windsurfing, it's freestyle.. Old people Speed sail, those that are lucky wave sail, but freestyle is where it's at..

NilPryde, don't care about freestyle, because freestyle sailors don't buy Pryde.. It's simply Pryde cashing in on the credibility of Steven, the first 'white guy' to win..

And sure NP put more money back into the sport than others, that's because the others don't have any money spare.. NP has the fanbois, they get the money, and buy the riders, to brainwash the fanbois.. It's full corporate, all strategy, to make cash.. The other brands don't know much about making money, they just do it because windsurfing is fun..

McDonalds sponsor sports carnivals, they still sell garbage..

DrJ said...



Well i dont care what everyone else thinks, I'm sold and I will have two of what ever it is she is selling!