Jp/Gaypryde steal another windsurfers soul.. I'll miss Van-donk, he had sick style.

rubbish gear and overpriced. did you really need to ask. i suppose if you aren't paying for it, then it's ok.

but good on steven, bloke has to make a living, and gaypryde has probably got the biggest budget out there.

Does barn sail, I thought he was just sponsored to bag Neil Pryde on the forums..

Everyone can have their own view on Neil Pryde sails, their marketing, quality etc but one fact remains unchanged - they do an amazing amount for our sport through their demo trailors, learn to windsurf days, sponsoring of Nationals and State based windsurfing events.

Without Neil Pryde in windsurfing, especially in Australia, we would be a lot worse off.

Back to the original post, does it actually make any difference to your views on what to buy? If Levi Siver bought Gun Sails would you be more inclined to buy them? My personal view is that it doesn't make any difference at all and I don't even know who Steven van Broek is.

BenKirk said...
.................... does it actually make any difference to your views on what to buy? If Levi Siver bought Gun Sails would you be more inclined to buy them? My personal view is that it doesn't make any difference at all and I don't even know who Steven van Broek is.

Ben,
Totally disagree - If it didn't make any difference then those brands wouldn't spend a sponsorship cent on securing professional sailors. You'd be amazed at how many average joe sailors will be changing over from JP to RRD boards next year if AA is sailing for them. Even good amateur sailors (e.g. GPSTC) get semi sponsored to promote brands as the flow on purchase effect within teams and further afield is actually bigger than youi'd expect.
[Of course this is only my opinion and have no hard evidence to back it up]

Where did all the Gay posts go? I put a lot of effort into those!!

I note, it's OK to relentlessly call Kitesurfers Gay, and also Freestyle windsurfing is flaming Gay. Boardshorts over wetsuit? TOTALLY GAY.. But the line is crossed when Gay in used in an unintelligent play on words to describe peeps fav brand..... You're labeled a Bigot..

Anywho..

Steven Van-Dinky-Donk is the Freestyle Champ, it was his second year on the tour.. He used to sail F2 and had a board called the Rodeo which he made his own, this is a popular board as it was a dedicated freestyle, unlike the freeride boards Jp sell..

We all asked him years ago why he wasn't taking the Big Bucks (relatively) from a big brand, and he said he liked the Rodeo, and he liked the people at F2.. They supported him when he was nobody..

If there is an underground scene in windsurfing, it's freestyle.. Old people Speed sail, those that are lucky wave sail, but freestyle is where it's at..

NilPryde, don't care about freestyle, because freestyle sailors don't buy Pryde.. It's simply Pryde cashing in on the credibility of Steven, the first 'white guy' to win..

And sure NP put more money back into the sport than others, that's because the others don't have any money spare.. NP has the fanbois, they get the money, and buy the riders, to brainwash the fanbois.. It's full corporate, all strategy, to make cash.. The other brands don't know much about making money, they just do it because windsurfing is fun..

McDonalds sponsor sports carnivals, they still sell garbage..

In my opinion... a lot of the gear out these days are fairly similar in performance. Neil Pryde charge a premium price for what is an average sail. If you can pay less for a similarly average, or better wavesail, then why would you buy the NP sail?

I'm happy to be on the Severne bandwagon at the moment, because it gives in my opinion superior performance (I think the 5.6 S-1 has got better bottom end and similar wind range to the 5.7 Firefly), is a lot lighter, and is also cheaper then sails by NP & North etc.

But I basically don't exhibit any brand loyalty at all. I buy whatever on the market has the best bang for buck at the time. I think its a fallacy to continue buying the same brand of gear all the time, because just as car manufacturers release some good models, and some bad models, sail manufacturers are the same. Sometimes they drop the ball, get lazy whatever.

barn said...
It's full corporate, all strategy, to make cash.. The other brands don't know much about making money, they just do it because windsurfing is fun..

One is called running a business the other is called a hobby. Once you move out from your parents home and start paying your monthly bills you too will realise that making money in today's society is not a luxury but a necessity. Some do it better then others...

stehsegler said...


And you base you comment on what? Because you tried every single sail in the entire range?

It be like me saying Ferrari sucks a*s because the 360 I drove for an hour was lame compared to the Porsche GT3.

And why do these discussion always have to immediately drift of into brand bashing?

Don't have to try every sail in the range. But I've sailed the sail ranges that would interest me at their demo days, namely the the firefly and atlas ranges. Conclusion... ok sail performance, not the best, not the worst, pretty heavy. And you don't need to sail them to see that asking >$1k for a wavesail is a joke in the current market.

I think a little bit of brand bashing is needed to balance the incessent amount of sponsored rider pimping that goes on around the place. I guess paying for your own gear means you are more biased now?

barn said...

^^haha ok..

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Nickelback also has fans.

There is no point trying to explain why they are balls to a Nickelback fan, but it's still funny pointing it out...

I don't dispute that they have some quality sails. It's just the vibe, of the thing..

How bad does Nickelback suck. I just don't get all the radio play and people raving about them. I can't stand them but each to their own but man they are crap

wespyyl said...



How does the price of Severne and NP compare?

for example what the price of a new 5m freestyle ?

The firefly and S-1 are similar in price $900,a few $ more for the NP. The materials are far superior and weight /feel in the Severne is mindblowing .They only compare in price,they are chalk and cheese when it comes to performance.
The Blade is $250 cheaper and would make a great FS sail and still lighter than a fly.

Wait, what? Nickleback use Neil Pryde gear?

...Anyone interested in some '09 Alphas, from when they still looked cool?

Beaglebuddy said...

barn said...

Where did all the Gay posts go? I put a lot of effort into those!!

I note, it's OK to relentlessly call Kitesurfers Gay, and also Freestyle windsurfing is flaming Gay. Boardshorts over wetsuit? TOTALLY GAY.. But the line is crossed when Gay in used in an unintelligent play on words to describe peeps fav brand..... You're labeled a Bigot

I too was enjoying the gay theme of this thread.
Being a relative newcomer to the spot, I'm wondering which are the gayest brands?
Would anyone care to rate the brands on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the gayest?
Hope this doesn't get me banned.

Cabrinha, Slingshot...

+1 what CJ said 100%

CJ -I will be around till newyear,then...
see you soon.

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barn said...

It's simply Pryde cashing in on the credibility of Steven, the first 'white guy' to win..

Well, the first since Dunkerbeck, Matt Pritchard, and Albeau

Yeah, they won freestyle world championships.....>_>