Wuhan Flu - actions speak louder than words

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lotofwind
lotofwind
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NSW, 6451 posts
12 Mar 2020 9:47pm
^^^^^^a bed by itself wont help, we have one at home.
Its ICU respirators, and 100's more medical staff that's may be needed. But hopefully it wont come to that.
TonyAbbott
TonyAbbott
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12 Mar 2020 7:22pm



Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
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NSW, 3570 posts
12 Mar 2020 10:27pm
bobajob said..
Well its had a direct impact on me - The Pixies cancelled!


Well, that makes me feel better about not doing the 12 hour drive to see them. Every cloud......
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15100 posts
WA, 15100 posts
12 Mar 2020 9:19pm
Kamikuza said..
Yeah nah. It's also not a terribly high transmission rate (R0) -- as far as we know -- so the low numbers of infected are unsurprising.
Sure, if you enable vectors of transmission, it'll be transmitted more easily. Quarantining is a good thing.
Same as flu though. www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/spread.htm I think the issue with coronavirus is they don't know how long it lurks around for? Which is why more restrictive quarantining is a good thing.


Are you sure about that? I thought it was 2.8 versus 3.0 with SARS, and again, I will harp on about the fact that it is transmissable before the symptoms are showing, whereas SARS was only transmissable after the symptoms were showing. I.e. you could scan people for SARS and then isolate them to prevent transmission. With Covid19, its too late!

Please don't now turn around and try and tell us the mortality rate of Ebola was not that high... The reason that disease is "safe" for most of us is that it burns itself out quickly by killing the hosts quickly.

If you think the risk of this disease is no worse than the regular flu, we would not have even heard about it by now and it would be a regular variant of the flu. Instead, it had to be contained by a country that has the ability to unilaterally isolate its citizens and force them into isolation and still many of them have died. The we have the example of Italy which hasn't treated it like the threat it is, and it has gotten away on them.

Australia is no better. We have a lot of older people. We have hospitals built to cater or a small number of sick people. Letting people think that its 'just the flu' is very dangerous.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15100 posts
WA, 15100 posts
12 Mar 2020 9:23pm
lotofwind said..
^^^^^^a bed by itself wont help, we have one at home.
Its ICU respirators, and 100's more medical staff that's may be needed. But hopefully it wont come to that.


Yeah, its scary when you read of the Italians denying treatment to the people over 65 and anyone that has another serious problem. They are that stretched that they are effectively writing off the ones that are less likely to survive... which actually tells you that they are not that confident on the survival rate of the younger ones, as its those that they are using the ventilators for. If they thought the younger ones could survive it without ventilators and targetted care, they would be reserving the ventilators for the more difficult cases. They aren't. They are flat out trying to keep the most likely ones alive.
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
13 Mar 2020 12:28am
I think those saying " Its only a flu bug",
should be put onto a crowded cruise ship with their parents, kids and grand parents and spend 30 days on it visiting a different country each day, with a 5 days stop over in china then Italy.
Hey, its only a bit of a cold. Its nothing but media hype
Oshenblue
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TonyAbbott
TonyAbbott
924 posts
924 posts
13 Mar 2020 5:29am
What if covid19 is just man flu?

And women are now realising how bad we have have had it!
kiterboy
kiterboy
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13 Mar 2020 1:37pm
kiterboy said..

2stubborn2quit said..
PS....
The Dunny paper is also disappearing in WA supermarkets, still we have not had one reported case.
Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic
Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic
Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic
Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic




It's actually three. Derrr, stay awake.
And that's only the 'official numbers'.
Next week it'll be 15.
Check in and let us know, if you're awake.

Edit: and that's not incuding the miner at Christmas Creek and the undefined numbers at Sino Iron Ore.


Well I was 1 off...14 'official' cases in WA now...

Of course there's many more that the 'official' numbers would have you believe.

Any takers for guessing next week's tally?
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15100 posts
WA, 15100 posts
13 Mar 2020 1:55pm
kiterboy said..
kiterboy said..

2stubborn2quit said..
PS....
The Dunny paper is also disappearing in WA supermarkets, still we have not had one reported case.
Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic
Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic
Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic
Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic




It's actually three. Derrr, stay awake.
And that's only the 'official numbers'.
Next week it'll be 15.
Check in and let us know, if you're awake.

Edit: and that's not incuding the miner at Christmas Creek and the undefined numbers at Sino Iron Ore.


Well I was 1 off...14 'official' cases in WA now...

Of course there's many more that the 'official' numbers would have you believe.

Any takers for guessing next week's tally?


25?

It is a bit random though. If the authorities are able to quickly identify people at risk, then it can keep the increase lower. If they can't, then thousands can get it in a matter of a week.
Gazuki
Gazuki
WA
1363 posts
WA, 1363 posts
13 Mar 2020 2:35pm
Sc-mo = Muppet++++++

Places ban on public events and then does press release saying hes going to the footy.

Talks about leading by example!!
japie
japie
NSW
7146 posts
NSW, 7146 posts
13 Mar 2020 5:41pm
Gazuki said..
Sc-mo = Muppet++++++

Places ban on public events and then does press release saying hes going to the footy.

Talks about leading by example!!


I think there's an international competition to see which country can put forward the worst political leader.
kiterboy
kiterboy
2614 posts
2614 posts
13 Mar 2020 2:47pm
FormulaNova said..

kiterboy said..

kiterboy said..


2stubborn2quit said..
PS....
The Dunny paper is also disappearing in WA supermarkets, still we have not had one reported case.
Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic
Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic
Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic
Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic. Panic





It's actually three. Derrr, stay awake.
And that's only the 'official numbers'.
Next week it'll be 15.
Check in and let us know, if you're awake.

Edit: and that's not incuding the miner at Christmas Creek and the undefined numbers at Sino Iron Ore.



Well I was 1 off...14 'official' cases in WA now...

Of course there's many more that the 'official' numbers would have you believe.

Any takers for guessing next week's tally?



25?

It is a bit random though. If the authorities are able to quickly identify people at risk, then it can keep the increase lower. If they can't, then thousands can get it in a matter of a week.


We've got 25. Any increase on 25?

I'm going 50.

Place your bets people, let's take this thing sky high!
kiterboy
kiterboy
2614 posts
2614 posts
13 Mar 2020 2:51pm
japie said..

Gazuki said..
Sc-mo = Muppet++++++

Places ban on public events and then does press release saying hes going to the footy.

Talks about leading by example!!



I think there's an international competition to see which country can put forward the worst political leader.


Gotta say, it's a pretty even comp so far, neck and neck!

My money is on Xi Jinping though.
holy guacamole
holy guacamole
1393 posts
1393 posts
13 Mar 2020 3:01pm
Gazuki said.....Sc-mo = Muppet++++++
Places ban on public events and then does press release saying hes going to the footy.
Talks about leading by example!!

Seems Peter Dutton has tested positive.
That means the whole ScoMo cabinet should probably self isolate for a few weeks while some grown ups take charge?
Maybe time to get the incompetent pollies off the case and put this in the hands of medical experts....?
KiwiDave
KiwiDave
VIC
192 posts
VIC, 192 posts
13 Mar 2020 7:35pm
^ screw self isolation send the Cabinet to Christmas Island.
holy guacamole
holy guacamole
1393 posts
1393 posts
13 Mar 2020 4:57pm
KiwiDave said..... screw self isolation send the Cabinet to Christmas Island.

Say....indefinitely, with no right to return to the homeland?

Shall we rescind the Medevac bill on Monday?

After all, letting genuine virus sufferers back in will open the floodgates for people smugglers to spread a dangerous bout of humanity amongst the general dunny roll hoarding population.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15100 posts
WA, 15100 posts
13 Mar 2020 5:10pm
Has Dutton got Coronavirus early in an attempt to become immune so that he can be leader when the others start falling?

Sounds like a conspiracy to me...
holy guacamole
holy guacamole
1393 posts
1393 posts
13 Mar 2020 5:15pm
Shhh.....no one was supposed to know about Duttons Master Plan.
holy guacamole
holy guacamole
1393 posts
1393 posts
13 Mar 2020 5:20pm
Just a thought.......I suspect if the pandemic gets out of control, the USA is going to realise how farked it's medical system is, how farked it's hospital system is and how under-resourced the nation actually is.

I understand for example, Italy has more hospital beds than the US?......fark.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15100 posts
WA, 15100 posts
13 Mar 2020 5:30pm
holy guacamole said..
Just a thought.......I suspect if the pandemic gets out of control, the USA is going to realise how farked it's medical system is, how farked it's hospital system is and how under-resourced the nation actually is.

I understand for example, Italy has more hospital beds than the US?......fark.


Is it really that poor there? You would think it would be the home of super-duper hospitals with all state of the art machinery.. at least that's what it looks like on TV soap operas..
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15100 posts
WA, 15100 posts
13 Mar 2020 5:32pm
I was just reading that one of the WA confirmed coronavirus patients, was on a flight from Sydney to Perth.... Great! It means that there are potentially heaps of people that are running around with it. and after more than 4 hours on a plane, its probably likely that someone got it.

I might have to fly from Perth to Adelaide, then to Canberra, and drive to Sydney to avoid this thing.
Bananabender
Bananabender
QLD
1610 posts
QLD, 1610 posts
13 Mar 2020 9:06pm
Now we know. Haven't bothered to read it all but seems a Chinese official claims the virus was bought into Wuhan by the US Army . What!
www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-13/coronavirus-originated-in-united-states-china-official-says/12055278
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