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Wuhan Flu - actions speak louder than words

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Gazuki
Gazuki
WA
1363 posts
Gazuki Gazuki
WA, 1363 posts
11 Mar 2020 6:58am
You captured my thoughts exactly in that last line,. it is really spinning me out how self absorbed people are,. no one thought for the impact on other,... "doesn't really effect me, who cares if others die". Wait to they morn there own parents,.. morons!
Paddles B'mere
Paddles B'mere
QLD
3586 posts
Paddles B'mere Paddles B'mere
QLD, 3586 posts
11 Mar 2020 9:20am
Hey Gazuki, it shouldn't be news to you because it's human nature. Three "rules" of economics are 1) people are rational; 2) people make decisions based on the margin; 3) people make decisions based on self interest. There will be economists studying these events sometime down the track and wondering why the first two rules were simply ignored by a society in panic
kiterboy
kiterboy
2614 posts
kiterboy kiterboy
2614 posts
11 Mar 2020 7:46am
Kamikuza said..

kiterboy said..


Bananabender said..



kiterboy said..



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kiterboy said..




Bananabender said..





kiterboy said..





Bananabender said..






KelpoS said..
Everyone should have at least 2 weeks of non perishables ready to go.







Why stuff around with that. Just have woollies or Coles deliver ,leave at front door. And enjoy fresh. Better still one of those health food mobs that deliver like weight watchers and cure our obesity problem at the same time.








Yeah!
Let's all take advantage of people who have no financial choice but to work till they drop dead of the virus!
Who's with us??!!






??? You mean keep people ,probably casuals , who need income in jobs is a bad thing because they might earn extra in picking packing delivering .






That's right, until they die from the virus, like we said.

I'm glad that's settled. Now, are we playing croquet tomorrow, or trailing money on fishing line behind the Rolls, for the poor people to chase?





OMG we are all doomed . Now let's see, it's effectively only those over 70 with lung issues or other medical probs that are likely to cark it . Most actually show little if any symptoms but we are all going to die . China, Italy , Japan have a much higher percentage of of oldies who are carking it but hey go on and panic





Careful, your ignorance is showing.

But I have to admit I also support a fair bit of dying for people that aren't me, so fek all those old people. Amirite!?!




No not ignorance , been there done that. Perhaps you better start a veggie garden, that's where your greens come from, get a few chooks, a duck or two oh a milking goat might be a good idea . Armageddon




Been there done that?
You mean living through a pandemic as wide spread this Wuhan Flu will be or killing old people?

My votes on the latter.



You mean like SARS, bird flu, swine flu...?


Normally I find your input rational and sensible.
So you can imagine my surprise when I saw this ridiculous comparison you made.
kiterboy
kiterboy
2614 posts
kiterboy kiterboy
2614 posts
11 Mar 2020 7:48am
Paddles B'mere said..
Hey Gazuki, it shouldn't be news to you because it's human nature. Three "rules" of economics are 1) people are rational; 2) people make decisions based on the margin; 3) people make decisions based on self interest. There will be economists studying these events sometime down the track and wondering why the first two rules were simply ignored by a society in panic


I find the sales person's insight more appropriate - people make decisions based on emotion, then try to justify their actions with logic.
kiterboy
kiterboy
2614 posts
kiterboy kiterboy
2614 posts
11 Mar 2020 8:45am
Swedish interview with Professor Giacomo Grasselli, who coordinates intensive care in Italy.

translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=sv&u=https://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/italiensk-professor-uppmanar-sverige-stang-skolor-stall-in-evenemang/&prev=search

" We do not know why we see more young cases now, at the age of 30 and 40 in recent days. We do not have time to even think about the causes, but can only state that it is more common than we expected based on data from China."

Yep, it's only getting the old people...
kiterboy
kiterboy
2614 posts
kiterboy kiterboy
2614 posts
11 Mar 2020 9:50am
Just in case anyone still thinks the numbers from China have ever been honest.

"According to an internal document obtained by
@EpochTimes, two hospitals in China's #Shandong province aren't making the cause of death clear for the bodies they send. Funeral staff worry about the #coronavirus when they read "unidentified pneumonia" on their death certificate."

twitter.com/ChinaInFocusNTD/status/1237355344713650177
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
evlPanda evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
11 Mar 2020 2:00pm
kiterboy said..
Yeah! Let's all take advantage of people who have no financial choice but to work till they drop dead of the virus! Who's with us??!!


Casuals will want to be working. I know I will.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
evlPanda evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
11 Mar 2020 2:01pm
Gazuki said..
You captured my thoughts exactly in that last line,. it is really spinning me out how self absorbed people are,. no one thought for the impact on other,... "doesn't really effect me, who cares if others die". Wait to they morn there own parents,.. morons!


It's *amazing* how similar the Millennials are to the Boomers, already.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
evlPanda evlPanda
NSW, 9207 posts
11 Mar 2020 2:02pm


The rate of new cases is accelerating, again, while cases of recovery are dropping. Not the best.
kiterboy
kiterboy
2614 posts
kiterboy kiterboy
2614 posts
11 Mar 2020 11:16am
evlPanda said..
Casuals will want need to be working. I know I will.


Fixed that for you.

That is the problem though, right?
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
3570 posts
Chris 249 Chris 249
NSW, 3570 posts
11 Mar 2020 5:01pm
kiterboy said..
Just in case anyone still thinks the numbers from China have ever been honest.

"According to an internal document obtained by
@EpochTimes, two hospitals in China's #Shandong province aren't making the cause of death clear for the bodies they send. Funeral staff worry about the #coronavirus when they read "unidentified pneumonia" on their death certificate."

twitter.com/ChinaInFocusNTD/status/1237355344713650177


The Epoch Times reads like a very biased rag, to be honest.
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
Kamikuza Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
11 Mar 2020 4:14pm
I would love to have to the time and motivation to collect such headlines as the following and see if they're as far off base as other futurist predictions...

www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/03/coronavirus-doctor-estimates-half-of-new-zealand-s-population-could-become-infected.html
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
Kamikuza Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
11 Mar 2020 4:16pm
kiterboy said..

Kamikuza said..


kiterboy said..



Bananabender said..




kiterboy said..




Bananabender said..





kiterboy said..





Bananabender said..






kiterboy said..






Bananabender said..







KelpoS said..
Everyone should have at least 2 weeks of non perishables ready to go.








Why stuff around with that. Just have woollies or Coles deliver ,leave at front door. And enjoy fresh. Better still one of those health food mobs that deliver like weight watchers and cure our obesity problem at the same time.









Yeah!
Let's all take advantage of people who have no financial choice but to work till they drop dead of the virus!
Who's with us??!!







??? You mean keep people ,probably casuals , who need income in jobs is a bad thing because they might earn extra in picking packing delivering .







That's right, until they die from the virus, like we said.

I'm glad that's settled. Now, are we playing croquet tomorrow, or trailing money on fishing line behind the Rolls, for the poor people to chase?






OMG we are all doomed . Now let's see, it's effectively only those over 70 with lung issues or other medical probs that are likely to cark it . Most actually show little if any symptoms but we are all going to die . China, Italy , Japan have a much higher percentage of of oldies who are carking it but hey go on and panic






Careful, your ignorance is showing.

But I have to admit I also support a fair bit of dying for people that aren't me, so fek all those old people. Amirite!?!





No not ignorance , been there done that. Perhaps you better start a veggie garden, that's where your greens come from, get a few chooks, a duck or two oh a milking goat might be a good idea . Armageddon





Been there done that?
You mean living through a pandemic as wide spread this Wuhan Flu will be or killing old people?

My votes on the latter.




You mean like SARS, bird flu, swine flu...?



Normally I find your input rational and sensible.
So you can imagine my surprise when I saw this ridiculous comparison you made.


They *weren't* global pandemics that I lived through? Remember I live in Asia oh and mad cow disease.

And -- well, thank you
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
Kamikuza Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
11 Mar 2020 4:39pm



Oh we get rotovirus and norovirus panics at least twice a year too
Grevas
Grevas
147 posts
Grevas Grevas
147 posts
11 Mar 2020 3:22pm
Joe Rogan Podcast with an actual infectious disease expert is worth a listen, that is if anyone wants to listen to an expert??
Enjoy
petermac33
petermac33
WA
6415 posts
petermac33 petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
11 Mar 2020 3:30pm
As an MIT PhD in Biological Engineering who studies & does research nearly every day on the Immune System, the #coronavirus fear mongering by the Deep State will go down in history as one of the biggest fraud to manipulate economies, suppress dissent, & push MANDATED Medicine!" twitter.com/HenryMakow/status/1237463523447451649
kiterboy
kiterboy
2614 posts
kiterboy kiterboy
2614 posts
11 Mar 2020 4:24pm
petermac33 said..
As an MIT PhD in Biological Engineering who studies & does research nearly every day on the Immune System, the #coronavirus fear mongering by the Deep State will go down in history as one of the biggest fraud to manipulate economies, suppress dissent, & push MANDATED Medicine!" twitter.com/HenryMakow/status/1237463523447451649






Gazuki
Gazuki
WA
1363 posts
Gazuki Gazuki
WA, 1363 posts
11 Mar 2020 5:51pm
AUSTRALIA NEEDS TO ACT NOW!!!! STOP EVENTS, NON URGENT TRAVEL,. CONTROL STATE BOARDERS,.. 5 DAYS BEFORE WE ARE PHUCT!!!!




Mr Milk
Mr Milk
NSW
3137 posts
Mr Milk Mr Milk
NSW, 3137 posts
11 Mar 2020 11:13pm
Saw on the news that the Wuhan quarantine is being lifted starting tomorrow. It will be interesting to see if new cases start appearing.
kiterboy
kiterboy
2614 posts
kiterboy kiterboy
2614 posts
11 Mar 2020 10:13pm
Mr Milk said..
Saw on the news that the Wuhan quarantine is being lifted starting tomorrow. It will be interesting to see if new cases start appearing.


Whether they do or not, it comes down to if the CCP want to report them. Just like they have all along.
Macaha
Macaha
QLD
21982 posts
Macaha Macaha
QLD, 21982 posts
12 Mar 2020 6:14am
Can we expect to see all major sporting events cancelled WSL,Moto GP,F1 and so on?
Harrow
Harrow
NSW
4521 posts
Harrow Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
12 Mar 2020 11:57am
Kamikuza said..



Oh we get rotovirus and norovirus panics at least twice a year too

I don't see this as any great comfort. We vaccinate for those diseases that are above and to the right., and the ones with the high death rates have had very strong responses to control the spread. What we do know is it is spreading very fast, and the death rate is on a steady climb. Saying "it's not so bad" is exactly why it's now becoming so bad.
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
Kamikuza Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
12 Mar 2020 11:09am
Harrow said..
I don't see this as any great comfort. We vaccinate for those diseases that are above and to the right., and the ones with the high death rates have had very strong responses to control the spread. What we do know is it is spreading very fast, and the death rate is on a steady climb.

Saying "it's not so bad" is exactly why it's now becoming so bad.


It's not a down-playing, it's perspective.

Is it? Is it really?
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15100 posts
FormulaNova FormulaNova
WA, 15100 posts
12 Mar 2020 10:18am
Harrow said..

Kamikuza said..



Oh we get rotovirus and norovirus panics at least twice a year too


I don't see this as any great comfort. We vaccinate for those diseases that are above and to the right., and the ones with the high death rates have had very strong responses to control the spread. What we do know is it is spreading very fast, and the death rate is on a steady climb. Saying "it's not so bad" is exactly why it's now becoming so bad.


Our PM was giving the advice on the radio 'not to panic as its only a minor illness'. WTF? I pray that he is saying this to calm people down, but behind the scenes does not believe this and is actually doing something to combat it.

Maybe this helps people, but maybe it doesn't if they think 'well its meant to be minor, and I might have it, but I should be free to mix with other people...'
japie
japie
NSW
7146 posts
japie japie
NSW, 7146 posts
12 Mar 2020 2:10pm
I spoke to my daughter in law yesterday who is doing her induction into the ICU unit of our local hospital. I asked her if there had been any conversation with regard to the Corona virus,

She said there had been a bit and that the general consensus is that it is a massive media hype.
kiterboy
kiterboy
2614 posts
kiterboy kiterboy
2614 posts
12 Mar 2020 11:39am
japie said..

She said there had been a bit and that the general consensus is that it is a massive media hype.


I don't get this line of reasoning...mainly cause there isn't one.

If it's all just media hype, why did China lock down 11 million people in Wuhan, right back at the start when only 60 people had died?

Why is Italy locked down etc...?

Where/how does the media hype come into it?
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
lotofwind lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
12 Mar 2020 2:49pm
japie said..
I spoke to my daughter in law yesterday who is doing her induction into the ICU unit of our local hospital. I asked her if there had been any conversation with regard to the Corona virus,

She said there had been a bit and that the general consensus is that it is a massive media hype.



That's what the locals in Italy were saying 2 weeks ago.
Now they are out of icu beds with over 100 people a day dead.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15100 posts
FormulaNova FormulaNova
WA, 15100 posts
12 Mar 2020 12:10pm
lotofwind said..

japie said..
I spoke to my daughter in law yesterday who is doing her induction into the ICU unit of our local hospital. I asked her if there had been any conversation with regard to the Corona virus,

She said there had been a bit and that the general consensus is that it is a massive media hype.




That's what the locals in Italy were saying 2 weeks ago.
Now they are out of icu beds with over 100 people a day dead.


Indeed! I don't think people are following the logic with this one. There are people dying. These are not always elderly or already sick.

The symptoms are only obvious after you are already contagious.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that this makes it more serious than SARS was, yet people seem to downplay it with 'its not as deadly as SARS...'. Well it is as you are going to have a higher chance of catching it.
petermac33
petermac33
WA
6415 posts
petermac33 petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
12 Mar 2020 12:57pm
blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/03/11/coronavirus-a-propaganda-master-advises-the-president-before-he-addresses-the-nation/
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
Kamikuza Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
12 Mar 2020 3:14pm
FormulaNova said..
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that this makes it more serious than SARS was


It's objectively not more serious than SARS.
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