Choosing a decent boom - what do you rate

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evlPanda
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20 May 2009 7:13pm
Gestalt said...

qldsalty said...

Ahh crusier as I said. Nothing I ever tried in bed made the difference to my experience that my two east euro girls did. After a few nights with the east euros, go back to a westerner and you will wonder how you ever slept with it.


yes,

any east euro girl will give that same feeling.


I'm half stepping up to an X6. After reading some posts here I'll be keeping the Chinook alloy as a backup.

That said the Alloy Chinook Slalom I have is damn heavy, main reason I'm replacing. I've bent the tail piece in the surf, but found a replacement for $50.

qldsalty
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28 May 2009 11:05am
evlPanda said...

Gestalt said...

qldsalty said...

Ahh crusier as I said. Nothing I ever tried in bed made the difference to my experience that my two east euro girls did. After a few nights with the east euros, go back to a westerner and you will wonder how you ever slept with it.


yes,

any east euro girl will give that same feeling.


I'm half stepping up to an X6. After reading some posts here I'll be keeping the Chinook alloy as a backup.

That said the Alloy Chinook Slalom I have is damn heavy, main reason I'm replacing. I've bent the tail piece in the surf, but found a replacement for $50.




Don't those east euro's have smelly diff's
lee1972
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6 Jun 2009 10:46pm
im pretty sure there isa sectionin the uk windsurf publication, im not sure what edition but its pretty recent. i shall have a look a email it to you. i use a pro limit boom and its been fine
mgorman
mgorman
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13 Jul 2009 4:33pm
Hi All,
Managed to break my Chinook Ali boom over the weekend . Since the head and tail piece can be bought separately I assumed the arms can also be bought individually. Has anyone managed to track them down? Just seems pointless not to sell the bit that breaks / bends the most .
daphne
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13 Jul 2009 10:46pm
neilpryde are most durable
evlPanda
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14 Jul 2009 4:52pm
^ Ok, can we safely say there is a massive difference between the X3 gear and the X9 gear?
sausage
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14 Jul 2009 5:19pm
daphne said...

neilpryde are most durable


Daphne,
Your surname isn't Pryde by any chance and your dad's name doesn't happen to be Neil?

BTW - just purchased an Aeron 200-250 mono aluminium boom based on testimonials here and I am very impressed.
Pointman
Pointman
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14 Jul 2009 3:42pm
Maui Sails carbon all the way

I've got the 170 and I'm going to get a 140 as well for wavesailing and my smaller race sails.

Stiffest boom I've come across. I've had some ballistic high speed crashes and the thing didn't even flinch. Love it

Ps: I'm a heavyweight (100kg+) and I've destroyed three booms in the past two seasons.
Haircut
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14 Jul 2009 6:29pm
x3 booms don't break....what's wrong with you lot
evlPanda
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14 Jul 2009 6:43pm
Haircut said...

x3 booms don't break....what's wrong with you lot


Well not every day.
snides8
snides8
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14 Jul 2009 5:24pm
ummm not even maui sails booms are immune from snappage..this 1 done on flat water!


qldsalty
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14 Jul 2009 11:09pm
Have you seen the new Neil Pryde booms with the curve in the arm. Apparently very stiff.
firiebob
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14 Jul 2009 9:38pm
mgorman said...

Hi All,
Managed to break my Chinook Ali boom over the weekend . Since the head and tail piece can be bought separately I assumed the arms can also be bought individually. Has anyone managed to track them down? Just seems pointless not to sell the bit that breaks / bends the most .


I've replaced Chinook alloy arms in the past (years ago) and this year replaced a Chinook carbon arm after a big getoff, just go back to your shop and ask
pepe47
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17 Jul 2009 3:12am
qldsalty said...

Have you seen the new Neil Pryde booms with the curve in the arm. Apparently very stiff.


Be very interested to see something about this Salty, can't seem to find anything as yet
WINDY MILLER
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20 Jul 2009 7:54am
aeron booms are good, but sadly nothng lasts for ever

Got a solid 2 years out of mine before it exploded on the weekend, probably 100 -150 seshs, a lot of floggins and a gazillion jumps, all for a 1/3 the price of carby..

i'd defo go aeron again or any other alloy one piece.

Leman
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23 Jul 2009 12:37am
I'm 96kg and broke numerous second hand booms both for small wave sailing and large sail flat water. Brought a brand new X3, broke an replaced under warranty twice each time within 2 months, then paid difference to upgrade to X6, broke and replaced twice.

Finally got fed up and ripped into my credit card and upgraded to X9 on both booms. So far 3 months of some pretty extreme days and all good.

Conclusion X3 and X6 are a waste of cash for any heavyweights, even finally got a shop guy to admit there is a known issue with the NP alloy booms around the mast end. Purchasing an X9 has allowed me to be more agressive with my sailing which in turn has improved my sailing and jumping.
russh
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23 Jul 2009 10:05am
reporting back on the boomtopic - 3 months since I destroyed the last one.

Bought a North Alu boom 140-190 and we've had pretty non stop 4.2 and 4.7 weather all winter and it feels good, hasn't broken but I'm only hanging 84kgs off it now instead of 94+kg's hopefully this will make a difference.

One thing is the measurements on the boom have to be out cause I have to extend it 2.5 to 5cm (by the boom graduation measurements) more than the previous boom - and beyond sail recommended to get adequate out haul - is it me or are the graduated markings just not that accurate.

elmo
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23 Jul 2009 8:44am
russh said...

reporting back on the boomtopic - 3 months since I destroyed the last one.

Bought a North Alu boom 140-190 and we've had pretty non stop 4.2 and 4.7 weather all winter and it feels good, hasn't broken but I'm only hanging 84kgs off it now instead of 94+kg's hopefully this will make a difference.

One thing is the measurements on the boom have to be out cause I have to extend it 2.5 to 5cm (by the boom graduation measurements) more than the previous boom - and beyond sail recommended to get adequate out haul - is it me or are the graduated markings just not that accurate.




Are you using a skinny mast with an adapt or shim/bush if so that could affect the settings on your boom as I thunk the measurements are taken from the front from the mast clamp

russh
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23 Jul 2009 10:43am
elmo said...



Are you using a skinny mast with an adapt or shim/bush if so that could affect the settings on your boom as I thunk the measurements are taken from the front from the mast clamp




Yeah - Powerex skinny witha shim -the boom didn't come with one - maybe I could get away with out the shim - just seems to attache nicer with it - I should look on the North website and see if I can use it without it -

Good pick up elmo!!!!
I never even considered that
KMAN5000
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24 Jul 2009 1:06pm
WINDY MILLER said...

aeron booms are good, but sadly nothng lasts for ever

Got a solid 2 years out of mine before it exploded on the weekend, probably 100 -150 seshs, a lot of floggins and a gazillion jumps, all for a 1/3 the price of carby..

i'd defo go aeron again or any other alloy one piece.




had north silver at start of year, grip kept peeling away after 2 weeks, but stong boom, then finally changed to try aeron after gotten fed up NS boom trying to glue grip back on and requested warranty on it. After using aeron for 1 months - (10 good sessions) boom to mast clamp exploded mid jump where boom attaches itselth to clamp . got boom replaced and recieved newer beefier version of boom clamp and hasn't been an issue now for 3 months ;). highly rate aeron booms compared to many i've tried over years...... feels stiffer than the NS silver in jumps and on waves, also has markings for harness lines making life a little easier when using adjusting to different size sails, grip feels better in the hands than NS silver did (both reduced dia. btw).


Gaz45
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24 Jul 2009 2:01pm
WINDY MILLER said...

aeron booms are good, but sadly nothng lasts for ever

Got a solid 2 years out of mine before it exploded on the weekend, probably 100 -150 seshs, a lot of floggins and a gazillion jumps, all for a 1/3 the price of carby..

i'd defo go aeron again or any other alloy one piece.




Got to agree with Windy, any monocoque boom is worth a look.

Just stay away from these booms with the seperate head. I saw three of these broken within a week. Mine broke with only a months use and never saw a wave. They come with several different brands on them.

Edit; found a photo of the boom I broke. Corrosion wasn't a problem. I presume the alloy work hardened at this point and then snapped.






Crash Landing
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24 Jul 2009 5:37pm

Gaz45
Mine broke with only a months use and never saw a wave.


Gaz

I'm not looking to cause a mass debate on this, but I don't understand why people keep making reference to "I broke a boom and it never saw a wave...". I have broken many booms and I'd have to say that the vast majority of them, over the last 17 years have broken because of:

Over extension
Over use
Catapults (main issue - especially when hitting sandbars etc - I did 3 in a year at Narabeen lake)
General fatigue

The only wave related problem I've had is a snapped outhaul and the end pulley system once got ripped off as the rivets failed.

Anyway, carry on.
Lowlife
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24 Jul 2009 9:16pm
Gaz45

Awesome example of corrosion. Could it be a Darwin wet season or just not washing after use... Not a bad effort for a month

Or is this an example of a manufacturing conspiracy. Block off the end with foam so that we cant rinse with fresh water.. Corrosion, crack, spend money on replacement..
vando
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24 Jul 2009 9:16pm
Hey all AL booms break




Now days I mainly use carbon
keef
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24 Jul 2009 9:58pm
vando said...

Hey all AL booms break

Now days I maily use carbon


old indian proverb "if it bends it will break"


Magnus8
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25 Jul 2009 12:53am
vando said...

Hey all AL booms break




Now days I mainly use carbon


For once Vando is right, alloy will last 12-18months at best, if it last longer trade it! Best to get X9, should get 5 years plus with no worries!

Thats Vando's car by the looks of it, bet the battery has gone flat by now...
choco
choco
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25 Jul 2009 3:22pm
vando said...

Hey all AL booms break




Now days I mainly use carbon


Wow Vando you should take them to scrap metal yard and get something for the alloy.

Waiting4wind
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25 Jul 2009 11:45pm
Gestalt said...

qldsalty said...

Ahh crusier as I said. Nothing I ever bought in windsurfing made the difference to my sailing experience that my two X9 carbons did. After a few sails on the carbon, go back to a alloy and you will wonder how you ever sailed it.


yes,

any carbon boom brand will give that same feeling.


Except for one with an average head. I bought a no name brand carbon and found that the head didn't make a very sure connection. Put a Maui Sails head on it and made a nice difference, felt tighter, stiffer and more responsive.
WINDY MILLER
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26 Jul 2009 11:56am
Gaz45 said...

WINDY MILLER said...

aeron booms are good, but sadly nothng lasts for ever

Got a solid 2 years out of mine before it exploded on the weekend, probably 100 -150 seshs, a lot of floggins and a gazillion jumps, all for a 1/3 the price of carby..

i'd defo go aeron again or any other alloy one piece.




Got to agree with Windy, any monocoque boom is worth a look.

Just stay away from these booms with the seperate head. I saw three of these broken within a week. Mine broke with only a months use and never saw a wave. They come with several different brands on them.

This wasn't my boom but the same end result.







all my old booms would always snap here.....

i came to the conclusion that the saltwater gets to the metal through the bolts/head and corodes an already weakend area caused by the bolt hole ,,,turning the alloy into weak mush... thats why i think the one pieces last a bit longer.

to get a bit more life ,i should rinse my boom after every sesh but i cant be arsed


just replaced with pro-limit monocoque... so far so good but head clamp not as good as aeron.

evlPanda
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27 Jul 2009 6:32pm
russh said...

elmo said...
Are you using a skinny mast with an adapt or shim/bush if so that could affect the settings on your boom as I thunk the measurements are taken from the front from the mast clamp


Yeah - Powerex skinny witha shim -the boom didn't come with one - maybe I could get away with out the shim - just seems to attache nicer with it - I should look on the North website and see if I can use it without it -

Good pick up elmo!!!!
I never even considered that


Aha! Ditto, had same question. Resolved.
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