Fitness for Fatties

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Stuthepirate
Stuthepirate
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3591 posts
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13 Oct 2011 1:54pm
I'm not into going to gyms, so apart from sailing alot does anyone have a fun way to keep fit and lose some kg's?
hamburglar
hamburglar
ACT
2174 posts
ACT, 2174 posts
13 Oct 2011 2:32pm
stop eating
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
WA, 3519 posts
13 Oct 2011 11:33am
I am like you, I sail alot and hate wasting my time in a gym, I need to loose weight too, I have started wind surfing again after a few (too many) years of inactivity, I also have started looking at my diet and joined the Light and Easy food program, a 1200 cal a day food intake delivered to my door as small 5 meals a day, so far I have lost 8 kg in 10 weeks I love the food and it is easy to follow.
The weekends I eat what I want but try not to over eat (and drink)!
Ellobuddha
Ellobuddha
NSW
625 posts
NSW, 625 posts
13 Oct 2011 3:09pm
You might want to look at this. www.marklauren.com/

I just got the book so havent started. Heaps of exercises shown on Youtube. Starts out easy and works up to "Theres no way I could do that"

Looks good as majority of exercises using only own bodyweight. A lot of the exercises are similar to a lot of yoga positions so great for core strength for sailing and kiting.

I find it appealing as its all about progression so you arent going to get bored with repeating same exercises week after weeks.

Was recommended by a mate who'e been doing it regularly (Overseas pilot so gets stuck in motels where he can still work out) Hes wrapped in it.

Not for everyone but definitely worth a look.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
13 Oct 2011 4:48pm
Cut back on the grog and snacks. Walk instead of drive if thats feasible, ie you don't live 10kms from the local shopping centre. Get more physical activity into your daily routine without making physical activity an end in itself.

I too dislike gyms.
knigit
knigit
WA
319 posts
WA, 319 posts
13 Oct 2011 3:19pm
felixdcat said...

I am like you, I sail alot and hate wasting my time in a gym, I need to loose weight too, I have started wind surfing again after a few (too many) years of inactivity, I also have started looking at my diet and joined the Light and Easy food program, a 1200 cal a day food intake delivered to my door as small 5 meals a day, so far I have lost 8 kg in 10 weeks I love the food and it is easy to follow.
The weekends I eat what I want but try not to over eat (and drink)!


Rude question here but keen to know how much that costs per week/program? Sometimes I just don't seem to be able to make the time to plan and cook healthy meals.
knigit
knigit
WA
319 posts
WA, 319 posts
13 Oct 2011 3:20pm
coops2 said...

Just do a lot of what you love. Even if it's not that strenuous, you're going to stick with it before something that you hate. As others have said, you could cut back on a snack or two in combination for best results.

http://www.dietresume.com


Wow. Laziest plug ever?
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
13 Oct 2011 6:33pm
I can't handle exercise for exercise value..I love the outdoors and nature so cycling , bushwalking , kayaking etc help to keep me fit and as I enjoy them I don't have to force myself to do them.
When I used to live in the burbs I used to cycle to work which was good as then I'd done my exercise and didn't feel guilty if I didn't feel like doing anything when I got home.It depends on how far work is from where you live & how cycle friendly the area is too. Mine was about 12kms all up & over a big hill.
I find the fitter I am the more exercise I want to do..However I've just come back from a weeks XC skiing and I was feeling really fit afterwards but I've lost most of it now.. slack + a lot of wet windless weather.
My fitness ( or lack of it ) really affects my sailing. After the weeks skiing I was holding down the big sail in more wind , sailing better and everything was so much less effort & more fun..
Try & find something that interests you and can fit into your daily life without too much drama & then your more likely to do it.If you like the outdoors join a bushwalking club as most do kayaking , walking , cycling , canyoning, skiing , caving , abseiling etc..only problem is if our club is typical that the demographics are 50 years old +
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
WA, 3519 posts
13 Oct 2011 4:29pm
knigit said...

felixdcat said...

I am like you, I sail alot and hate wasting my time in a gym, I need to loose weight too, I have started wind surfing again after a few (too many) years of inactivity, I also have started looking at my diet and joined the Light and Easy food program, a 1200 cal a day food intake delivered to my door as small 5 meals a day, so far I have lost 8 kg in 10 weeks I love the food and it is easy to follow.
The weekends I eat what I want but try not to over eat (and drink)!


Rude question here but keen to know how much that costs per week/program? Sometimes I just don't seem to be able to make the time to plan and cook healthy meals.
It is costing me about $ 100-00 a week! I thing it is very good value! Save on cooking time, dish washing and shoping! I love my microvawe oven!

www.liteneasy.com.au/
Waiting4wind
Waiting4wind
NSW
1871 posts
NSW, 1871 posts
13 Oct 2011 8:58pm
When you have a beer just grab a whole six pack, open one, drink and give your biceps a workout with some curls....

You could try getting a SUP, its fun once you get into to it and afairly good workout.
GeoffS
GeoffS
NSW
49 posts
NSW, 49 posts
13 Oct 2011 9:08pm
My keep fit regime is fairly simple, go swimming. I do laps in my local pool (heated during winter) before work, a couple of times a week. Usually swim about 1 km. Figured it would be handy to be able to swim a bit if I windsurfed, and I was right. Swimming after the board when the ghost rider jumps on is not so easy in a wetsuit and harness.
Dont like lots of fatty foods and dont drink anything other than beer, wine and coffee, and the occasional bit of salt water.
Take a look at the people pushing supermarket trolleys, then look at what they have in the trolley. Guaranteed if they are big theres lots of soft drink.
Cost for the pool entry is about $118 for 50 visits which works out about $7 a week.
Cheap as, and the chicks are always in swimmers.
KenHo
KenHo
NSW
1353 posts
NSW, 1353 posts
13 Oct 2011 9:49pm
Cycling is the way forward.
Non impact, non weight bearing and heaps of fun. Cheap to get started, and even cheap to get semi-serious.
Look up an app called iPushups too. It's a push up grainy regime that wil have you cranking them out in no time.
Get og YouTube and look at some kettle bell stuff, and while you are there, look at some Crossfit workouts. Cross fit is nthong new, just anohr way of packaging body-weight training, but it is very effective and free. No gym, just some time in a park. Many parks have exercise stations in them these days, and are a hive of activity around dusk.
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
13 Oct 2011 10:19pm
I cycle to work all through winter and hit the water every weekend and almost every day for the rest of the year. Cycling is a pleasant way to start and end the day. I ride to work at a moderate pace to avoid the need for showering on arrival, then blast home.

My daily commute is 3 hours for the round trip. I save about $80 a week in parking, $50 in fuel and probably a similar amount in wear and tear on the car. I doubt I am actually ahead because I felt the need for a new bike, add in lights and wet weather gear, cycling clothes, pack rack etc.

BTW I never ride on the road in peak hour. The biggest hassle inthe mornings is the other cyclists.

"Diets" do not work. You lose weight quickly, but pack it back on again as soon as you stop the Diet. A program on the Health Report says it takes about 3 years to lose weight and consolidate that weight loss. They are talking about weight loss of less than 5 kg.

Permanent changes to your "diet" is the only way to lose weight and keep it off. That is, stop eating/drinking too much and stop eating/drinking crap.

You cannot exercise weight off. It takes an hour of strenuous exercise to work off the calories in a Mars bar. Exercise is good for maintaining weight loss once you have lost the excess weight through lifestyle change.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
13 Oct 2011 10:30pm
Unless there are cycle ways which are useful, ie go from where you live to where you work or shop, cycling on city roads is a very dangerous and somewhat selfish activity. In northern Sydney we get a fair number of cyclists riding on the Pacific Highway. The problem is they ride around 20 to 30 km/h slower than a car driving.

This would not be a problem on a quiet road. However the Pacific Highway is anything but a quiet road with heaps of cars, buses and trucks driving on it all the time. Plus the lanes are quite narrow as the RTA tries to cram more lanes to cope with the traffic.

You hear about cyclists getting hit by cars all the time. A colleague of mine son was very badly injured when cycling to work in Melbourne a couple of years ago. It was a hit and run accident. He was left for dead and almost died. He ended up as a quadriplegic. He was incredibly fit before the accident and they say the only reason he survived was his fitness.

Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
13 Oct 2011 11:06pm
Link to Health Report program on weight loss

www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/weight-loss-and-appetite-control/2938838
Chris6791
Chris6791
WA
3271 posts
WA, 3271 posts
13 Oct 2011 8:20pm
Got an Iphone? try an app called myfitnesspal. Its basically a DIY calorie/meal/exercise tracker and I've found it to be remarkably accurate, effective and honest.

The biggest benefit to me is that is shows where all the hidden calories in my food are, whilst I refuse to 'diet' it has educated me a little and encourages me to make smarter choices. Why flog yourself exercising if you can have the same impact by not eating something stupid?
shi thouse
shi thouse
WA
1159 posts
WA, 1159 posts
13 Oct 2011 8:32pm
I found this a while back and find the stuff that has been put together is not over the top and has relevance to windsurfing. Plus the guy doesn't act like he is some action hero.

Having bought it, I haven't yet used it as getting over a knee op. That said intend to start this week.

www.totalsurfingfitness.com/
sideskirt
sideskirt
328 posts
328 posts
13 Oct 2011 8:44pm
Have a bar hanging from my ceiling (a part of a broken boom)....

So my 5-6 times per week routine is .... 3x15 push ups and 3x 15 pull ups (on the bar) then 15-20min running or 12km(30min) cycling(indoors if it's raining), then 2x15 push ups and 2x 15 pull ups on the bar again.... after 3 weeks I feel comfortably tired, no sore muscles after workout...another 2 weeks and I will increase intensity, don't like to get too sore and too tired after workout....
Lost only 2kg in 3 weeks but lost about half of my beer belly ;)

Windsurfing benefits: no hamstring cramps after 1h of surfing...can go for a lot longer in water then before, up to 6h B&J with very little sore muscles the next day...used to be few days recovery...
KenHo
KenHo
NSW
1353 posts
NSW, 1353 posts
14 Oct 2011 7:42am
Chris6791 said...

Got an Iphone? try an app called myfitnesspal. Its basically a DIY calorie/meal/exercise tracker and I've found it to be remarkably accurate, effective and honest.

The biggest benefit to me is that is shows where all the hidden calories in my food are, whilst I refuse to 'diet' it has educated me a little and encourages me to make smarter choices. Why flog yourself exercising if you can have the same impact by not eating something stupid?


I enjoy flogging myself.
gregc
gregc
VIC
1299 posts
VIC, 1299 posts
14 Oct 2011 8:03am
Wow your a stayer.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
14 Oct 2011 9:27am
hamburglar said...

stop eating


On this note reducing the amount you eat without exercising is no go as your body re adjusts to less calories so then you can put weight on with less food! The metabolism slows down. You need to eat less + exercise to keep / raise your metabolism.
I know I said I don't do exercise for exercise sake but..
We have an exercise bike set up in front of the TV so I can watch TV without feeling guilty!Watch an hours show and get an hours cycling in. This is handy for when you work and don't have any daylight to do exercise.I dont find the exercise bike as good as real cycling ( maybe the settings I have it on ) but it's good.
Also I was told my cholesterol was 7.5 & I had to get it down I was a chocoholic+ the creamier & fattier it was the more I liked it..).I knew I was going to have a high reading and would be put on a stricter diet so I made sure I finished off that tub of sour cream the day I went to see the Dr .
I cut out choc , cake , sugary stuff and I've lost 4kgs so ideal weight..
Pel
Pel
WA
66 posts
Pel Pel
WA, 66 posts
14 Oct 2011 10:17am
Start playing squash.

Its a good high intensity workout and awesome fun!

Plus time flys by, often find myself thinking "has it been an hour already?"
cybersoak
cybersoak
VIC
25 posts
VIC, 25 posts
15 Oct 2011 12:37am
Having lost 15 kgs and keeping it off after 14 years i can tell you a secret, No magic diets or pills. Its very simple. Diet is 90 %, exercise is 10 %. Most people just don't get it. You really are what you eat. People say i have a slow metabolism. Bull **. You don't get fat breathing air, you get fat eating crap food. Everyone is looking for the secret, i have it, it is one word and deep down everyone knows it. WILLPOWER.
gregc
gregc
VIC
1299 posts
VIC, 1299 posts
15 Oct 2011 12:51am
Willpower is so hard don't you have a pill? Seriously yes controlling portions, realizing your going to fall off the wagon, getting back on it regadless. Your metabolism, as a bloke, slows from your mid 30s, so your calorie intake needs to reduce. I find that upping my exercise ( cause canberra is too cold to do anything in winter) over summer can get me dropping 10kg in quick time, however, winter is the time I balloon out again. It's about discipline and finding a happy balance, easier said then done.
cybersoak
cybersoak
VIC
25 posts
VIC, 25 posts
15 Oct 2011 1:08am
Willpower is only hard if you do not want to do it. If you want that body to die for it becomes easy. I once heard a saying and i think to be true. If you really want something you will get it. If you don't get it you really did not want it enough.You are the destiny of your future and you control the end product so toughen up kiddies and stop look outside for the answer. I repeat, WILLPOWER.
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
WA, 7733 posts
14 Oct 2011 10:51pm
Travel. And, I don't mean that smancy business class stuff, with French wine and cheese...

Eat from road side stalls. Say "yes" to fermented mares milk. Say "yes" to kava. "Yes" I want that curry... It'll work Trust me

stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
3571 posts
WA, 3571 posts
14 Oct 2011 11:01pm
second what many here have said. The big thing with weight loss is diet.

Stop drinking, eat small portions (normal portions) and eat healthy. It's a simple case of input / output. If you daily energy requirement with zero excise is say somewhere around 6,500 kj it's simple. Eat more than 6,500 kj and you'll put on weight... eat less and you'll loose weight.

However, expect that when you first start your weight might actually go up a bit. It's your body trying to store fat because it thinks it not going to get anymore food. This usually stops after about 4 weeks and after that you should the weight go down quite quickly.

I have managed to shed 25 kgs since January simply by continuing the exercise I did before but improving my diet and cutting out lattes and alcohol. There is a nice side effect. You suddenly spend a lot less money when you go out...
stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
3571 posts
WA, 3571 posts
14 Oct 2011 11:02pm
cybersoak said...
If you really want something you will get it. If you don't get it you really did not want it enough.


That doesn't seem to work for wind and swell... unless I am doing something wrong.

albers
albers
NSW
1739 posts
NSW, 1739 posts
15 Oct 2011 8:12pm
"Diet" means what you eat, not a "reduced food intake" strategy.

You can lose weight, without significantly reducing food intake, by changing the foods you eat.

Replace all the "white foods" (high GI carbs/grain based) with low GI alternatives.

Cut out all sugar based foods (including fruit) as fructose makes you fat.

Eat lots of lean grass-fed beef, organic chicken, fish, eggs, legumes, vegetables.

Try this for 30 days, and see what happens.

PS: Refer Tim Ferriss and his book, "The 4-Hour Body"
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
16 Oct 2011 12:12am
Try this

TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
17 Oct 2011 9:06pm
LOL is that recommended for windsurfing fitness
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