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laceys lane
laceys lane
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3 Aug 2015 7:16pm
In a simple man. I believe gws have been protected for 15 years now.

with so many sighting and the seemingly increase in attacks one would assume the gws are making a very good comeback.
Question if and I say if we continue to have serious attacks every month till christmas what will happen ?

will beaches just be closed.

will the gov move to assist in deterrents

Will a cull happen
Or what - nothing happens

jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
3 Aug 2015 5:38pm
laceys lane said..
In a simple man. I believe gws have been protected for 15 years now.

with so many sighting and the seemingly increase in attacks one would assume the gws are making a very good comeback.
Question if and I say if we continue to have serious attacks every month till christmas what will happen ?

will beaches just be closed.

will the gov move to assist in deterrents

Will a cull happen
Or what - nothing happens



Attacks will increase. Whilst people are being silly and entering into the water with the sharks, how can their not be. Did you see the guy interviewed surfing at the beach whilst they flew the drone around showing two large sharks right near him. He simply went back out and said it was great, no crowds..


Macaha
Macaha
QLD
21982 posts
QLD, 21982 posts
3 Aug 2015 7:48pm
jbshack said..

laceys lane said..
In a simple man. I believe gws have been protected for 15 years now.

with so many sighting and the seemingly increase in attacks one would assume the gws are making a very good comeback.
Question if and I say if we continue to have serious attacks every month till christmas what will happen ?

will beaches just be closed.

will the gov move to assist in deterrents

Will a cull happen
Or what - nothing happens




Attacks will increase. Whilst people are being silly and entering into the water with the sharks, how can their not be. Did you see the guy interviewed surfing at the beach whilst they flew the drone around showing two large sharks right near him. He simply went back out and said it was great, no crowds..




That guy was a tosser he said he was against any beach being closed even if it was the save lifes.
JB your comment "whilst people are silly and entering the water with sharks,how can their not be"
Agree but the problem as I mentioned in my first post is these sharks are seriously hanging around.
OK one attack sh-t can happen as we all know but seriously there is a massive issue in this area.
A cull in this area I see as a must,how many people are going to spend school holiday's in this area.
A huge impact for those small business who relie on this pirod to survive.


laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
3 Aug 2015 7:49pm
Im pro people. Im pro people not getting attacked.

No cage diving must be made law

If a shark hangs around a area like that one did in tassie harassing people get rid of it.

After a attack all efforts must be made to kill that shark straight away not 3 hrs later or next day. Learnt behaviour imo.

Im done
Al G
Al G
NSW
7707 posts
NSW, 7707 posts
3 Aug 2015 8:00pm
Shark attacks,injuries & sightings have tripled in percentages since 2012, than the percentages of the last 50 years on the east coast of Australia alone??..I agree it's time to do something about it?..
Macaha
Macaha
QLD
21982 posts
QLD, 21982 posts
3 Aug 2015 8:03pm
68surfwagon said..
Shark attacks,injuries & sightings have tripled in percentages since 2012, than the percentages of the last 50 years on the east coast of Australia alone??..I agree it's time to do something about it?..


I couldnt imagine being a surfer and living there,I wouldn't be surfing.
Al G
Al G
NSW
7707 posts
NSW, 7707 posts
3 Aug 2015 8:10pm
Yeah Mac, would be very hard to focus on what you're doing.I used to live at Shelley beach at Ballina for a few years used to surf Lighthouse,Lennox,Boulders,etc,I think I've seen more sea life there than anywhere else I've lived over the years
Macaha
Macaha
QLD
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QLD, 21982 posts
3 Aug 2015 8:13pm
68surfwagon said..
Yeah Mac, would be very hard to focus on what you're doing.I used to live at Shelley beach at Ballina for a few years used to surf Lighthouse,Lennox,Boulders,etc,I think I've seen more sea life there than anywhere else I've lived over the years


I would camp down at flat rock and surf Boulders with my son,yeah a little too much going on to really enjoy.
chrispy
chrispy
WA
9675 posts
WA, 9675 posts
3 Aug 2015 6:20pm
jbshack said..

laceys lane said..
In a simple man. I believe gws have been protected for 15 years now.

with so many sighting and the seemingly increase in attacks one would assume the gws are making a very good comeback.
Question if and I say if we continue to have serious attacks every month till christmas what will happen ?

will beaches just be closed.

will the gov move to assist in deterrents

Will a cull happen
Or what - nothing happens




Attacks will increase. Whilst people are being silly and entering into the water with the sharks, how can their not be. Did you see the guy interviewed surfing at the beach whilst they flew the drone around showing two large sharks right near him. He simply went back out and said it was great, no crowds..




being silly as going surfing? you cant use the argument of going into shark known areas, as that blows all your arguments out of he water....as shark are everywhere.

ok jb give me some stats on how many attacks have occurred at netted and drum lined beaches vs the ones without......this will be intresting,and yes I know you can put spin on anything....this one im waiting for facts.

i will be intrested in what you have to say,if you do get the chance to say anything if you get eaten.....


hey its all good,i have just invested in potato farms
Macaha
Macaha
QLD
21982 posts
QLD, 21982 posts
3 Aug 2015 8:23pm
chrispy said..

jbshack said..


laceys lane said..
In a simple man. I believe gws have been protected for 15 years now.

with so many sighting and the seemingly increase in attacks one would assume the gws are making a very good comeback.
Question if and I say if we continue to have serious attacks every month till christmas what will happen ?

will beaches just be closed.

will the gov move to assist in deterrents

Will a cull happen
Or what - nothing happens





Attacks will increase. Whilst people are being silly and entering into the water with the sharks, how can their not be. Did you see the guy interviewed surfing at the beach whilst they flew the drone around showing two large sharks right near him. He simply went back out and said it was great, no crowds..





being silly as going surfing? you cant use the argument of going into shark known areas, as that blows all your arguments out of he water....as shark are everywhere.

ok jb give me some stats on how many attacks have occurred at netted and drum lined beaches vs the ones without......this will be intresting,and yes I know you can put spin on anything....this one im waiting for facts.

i will be intrested in what you have to say,if you do get the chance to say anything if you get eaten.....


hey its all good,i have just invested in potato farms


Cant believe your getting involved in a crap thread

Yeap nets and drum lines are the way to go.
chrispy
chrispy
WA
9675 posts
WA, 9675 posts
3 Aug 2015 6:31pm
Macaha said..

chrispy said..


jbshack said..



laceys lane said..
In a simple man. I believe gws have been protected for 15 years now.

with so many sighting and the seemingly increase in attacks one would assume the gws are making a very good comeback.
Question if and I say if we continue to have serious attacks every month till christmas what will happen ?

will beaches just be closed.

will the gov move to assist in deterrents

Will a cull happen
Or what - nothing happens






Attacks will increase. Whilst people are being silly and entering into the water with the sharks, how can their not be. Did you see the guy interviewed surfing at the beach whilst they flew the drone around showing two large sharks right near him. He simply went back out and said it was great, no crowds..






being silly as going surfing? you cant use the argument of going into shark known areas, as that blows all your arguments out of he water....as shark are everywhere.

ok jb give me some stats on how many attacks have occurred at netted and drum lined beaches vs the ones without......this will be intresting,and yes I know you can put spin on anything....this one im waiting for facts.

i will be intrested in what you have to say,if you do get the chance to say anything if you get eaten.....


hey its all good,i have just invested in potato farms



Cant believe your getting involved in a crap thread

Yeap nets and drum lines are the way to go.


oh the hack is so wrong on so many levels....but im stupid enough to have posted this....i would like a answer on my previous post, with proper statistics ...not his made up ones and what he thinks the sharks are thinking
Al G
Al G
NSW
7707 posts
NSW, 7707 posts
3 Aug 2015 8:52pm
Funny you mention Flatrock Mac,that's where I've seen the biggest shark,it came up next to me late one arvo when I was out there,it was only about 6 to 8 feet away from me,I just turned & paddled in, got on a wave,only small one & bellied it in
Macaha
Macaha
QLD
21982 posts
QLD, 21982 posts
3 Aug 2015 8:57pm
68surfwagon said..
Funny you mention Flatrock Mac,that's where I've seen the biggest shark,it came up next to me late one arvo when I was out there,it was only about 6 to 8 feet away from me,I just turned & paddled in, got on a wave,only small one & bellied it in


Yeah the place smelt fishy and the water was creepy I didn't last long
Cobra
Cobra
9106 posts
9106 posts
3 Aug 2015 8:09pm
68surfwagon said..
Funny you mention Flatrock Mac,that's where I've seen the biggest shark,it came up next to me late one arvo when I was out there,it was only about 6 to 8 feet away from me,I just turned & paddled in, got on a wave,only small one & bellied it in


It's not a good feeling when you see one pop up close still remember that day 35 years ago
Al G
Al G
NSW
7707 posts
NSW, 7707 posts
3 Aug 2015 10:17pm
Cobra said..


68surfwagon said..
Funny you mention Flatrock Mac,that's where I've seen the biggest shark,it came up next to me late one arvo when I was out there,it was only about 6 to 8 feet away from me,I just turned & paddled in, got on a wave,only small one & bellied it in




It's not a good feeling when you see one pop up close still remember that day 35 years ago



Bloody oath Cobra,I can shut my eyes & still see that dorsal fin no worries,it was a fair size oneI've seen a few but that would be the biggest,mine was about 32 years ago!..
jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
3 Aug 2015 8:25pm
chrispy said..

Macaha said..


chrispy said..



jbshack said..




laceys lane said..
In a simple man. I believe gws have been protected for 15 years now.

with so many sighting and the seemingly increase in attacks one would assume the gws are making a very good comeback.
Question if and I say if we continue to have serious attacks every month till christmas what will happen ?

will beaches just be closed.

will the gov move to assist in deterrents

Will a cull happen
Or what - nothing happens







Attacks will increase. Whilst people are being silly and entering into the water with the sharks, how can their not be. Did you see the guy interviewed surfing at the beach whilst they flew the drone around showing two large sharks right near him. He simply went back out and said it was great, no crowds..







being silly as going surfing? you cant use the argument of going into shark known areas, as that blows all your arguments out of he water....as shark are everywhere.

ok jb give me some stats on how many attacks have occurred at netted and drum lined beaches vs the ones without......this will be intresting,and yes I know you can put spin on anything....this one im waiting for facts.

i will be intrested in what you have to say,if you do get the chance to say anything if you get eaten.....


hey its all good,i have just invested in potato farms




Cant believe your getting involved in a crap thread

Yeap nets and drum lines are the way to go.



oh the hack is so wrong on so many levels....but im stupid enough to have posted this....i would like a answer on my previous post, with proper statistics ...not his made up ones and what he thinks the sharks are thinking


Sitting at home I'm not really into getting back into your continued argument but i could just as easy list you thousands of beaches that don't have drum lines and nets that have had no attacks also.. SO really your idea that they provide protection due to a lack of attack is just as flawed.

You realise these sharks swim from thousands of KMs away. They pass hundreds of beaches that don't have nets and some that do. Its just a luck of the draw really, all be it a bad choice of description.

This year was said to be a hard session for Sharks on your side of the country. It was predicted this could happen after all the heavy rains flushed river system, smaller fish and changed water salinities around rivers and would result in higher bait fish and therefor more sharks.

Two years ago you guys were saying the East coast is so safe because we use nets and drums. Well look now and see who is having the attacks, even though you have used nets and drums for decades. There not the answer is so says all the experts


chrispy
chrispy
WA
9675 posts
WA, 9675 posts
3 Aug 2015 8:32pm
jbshack said..

chrispy said..


Macaha said..



chrispy said..




jbshack said..





laceys lane said..
In a simple man. I believe gws have been protected for 15 years now.

with so many sighting and the seemingly increase in attacks one would assume the gws are making a very good comeback.
Question if and I say if we continue to have serious attacks every month till christmas what will happen ?

will beaches just be closed.

will the gov move to assist in deterrents

Will a cull happen
Or what - nothing happens








Attacks will increase. Whilst people are being silly and entering into the water with the sharks, how can their not be. Did you see the guy interviewed surfing at the beach whilst they flew the drone around showing two large sharks right near him. He simply went back out and said it was great, no crowds..








being silly as going surfing? you cant use the argument of going into shark known areas, as that blows all your arguments out of he water....as shark are everywhere.

ok jb give me some stats on how many attacks have occurred at netted and drum lined beaches vs the ones without......this will be intresting,and yes I know you can put spin on anything....this one im waiting for facts.

i will be intrested in what you have to say,if you do get the chance to say anything if you get eaten.....


hey its all good,i have just invested in potato farms





Cant believe your getting involved in a crap thread

Yeap nets and drum lines are the way to go.




oh the hack is so wrong on so many levels....but im stupid enough to have posted this....i would like a answer on my previous post, with proper statistics ...not his made up ones and what he thinks the sharks are thinking



Sitting at home I'm not really into getting back into your continued argument but i could just as easy list you thousands of beaches that don't have drum lines and nets that have had no attacks also.. SO really your idea that they provide protection due to a lack of attack is just as flawed.

You realise these sharks swim from thousands of KMs away. They pass hundreds of beaches that don't have nets and some that do. Its just a luck of the draw really, all be it a bad choice of description.

This year was said to be a hard session for Sharks on your side of the country. It was predicted this could happen after all the heavy rains flushed river system, smaller fish and changed water salinities around rivers and would result in higher bait fish and therefor more sharks.

Two years ago you guys were saying the East coast is so safe because we use nets and drums. Well look now and see who is having the attacks, even though you have used nets and drums for decades. There not the answer is so says all the experts




once again you avoid the real answer....the attacks have been at beaches without drum lines or nets.....so continue with your superior knowledge

i have nothing more....except the need to get more waves
jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
3 Aug 2015 8:47pm
chrispy said..

jbshack said..


chrispy said..



Macaha said..




chrispy said..





jbshack said..






laceys lane said..
In a simple man. I believe gws have been protected for 15 years now.

with so many sighting and the seemingly increase in attacks one would assume the gws are making a very good comeback.
Question if and I say if we continue to have serious attacks every month till christmas what will happen ?

will beaches just be closed.

will the gov move to assist in deterrents

Will a cull happen
Or what - nothing happens









Attacks will increase. Whilst people are being silly and entering into the water with the sharks, how can their not be. Did you see the guy interviewed surfing at the beach whilst they flew the drone around showing two large sharks right near him. He simply went back out and said it was great, no crowds..









being silly as going surfing? you cant use the argument of going into shark known areas, as that blows all your arguments out of he water....as shark are everywhere.

ok jb give me some stats on how many attacks have occurred at netted and drum lined beaches vs the ones without......this will be intresting,and yes I know you can put spin on anything....this one im waiting for facts.

i will be intrested in what you have to say,if you do get the chance to say anything if you get eaten.....


hey its all good,i have just invested in potato farms






Cant believe your getting involved in a crap thread

Yeap nets and drum lines are the way to go.





oh the hack is so wrong on so many levels....but im stupid enough to have posted this....i would like a answer on my previous post, with proper statistics ...not his made up ones and what he thinks the sharks are thinking




Sitting at home I'm not really into getting back into your continued argument but i could just as easy list you thousands of beaches that don't have drum lines and nets that have had no attacks also.. SO really your idea that they provide protection due to a lack of attack is just as flawed.

You realise these sharks swim from thousands of KMs away. They pass hundreds of beaches that don't have nets and some that do. Its just a luck of the draw really, all be it a bad choice of description.

This year was said to be a hard session for Sharks on your side of the country. It was predicted this could happen after all the heavy rains flushed river system, smaller fish and changed water salinities around rivers and would result in higher bait fish and therefor more sharks.

Two years ago you guys were saying the East coast is so safe because we use nets and drums. Well look now and see who is having the attacks, even though you have used nets and drums for decades. There not the answer is so says all the experts





once again you avoid the real answer....the attacks have been at beaches without drum lines or nets.....so continue with your superior knowledge

i have nothing more....except the need to get more waves


Yep you've got nothing. This has been posted before, but ill share it again. There is actually a map in their that shows just what you after, locations of beaches that have had attacks at netted or drummed beaches, but i can't open it but ill see if i can find someone who can and repost it for you

theconversation.com/has-queensland-really-saved-lives-by-killing-thousands-of-sharks-23437
chrispy
chrispy
WA
9675 posts
WA, 9675 posts
3 Aug 2015 8:50pm
jbshack said..

chrispy said..


jbshack said..



chrispy said..




Macaha said..





chrispy said..






jbshack said..







laceys lane said..
In a simple man. I believe gws have been protected for 15 years now.

with so many sighting and the seemingly increase in attacks one would assume the gws are making a very good comeback.
Question if and I say if we continue to have serious attacks every month till christmas what will happen ?

will beaches just be closed.

will the gov move to assist in deterrents

Will a cull happen
Or what - nothing happens










Attacks will increase. Whilst people are being silly and entering into the water with the sharks, how can their not be. Did you see the guy interviewed surfing at the beach whilst they flew the drone around showing two large sharks right near him. He simply went back out and said it was great, no crowds..










being silly as going surfing? you cant use the argument of going into shark known areas, as that blows all your arguments out of he water....as shark are everywhere.

ok jb give me some stats on how many attacks have occurred at netted and drum lined beaches vs the ones without......this will be intresting,and yes I know you can put spin on anything....this one im waiting for facts.

i will be intrested in what you have to say,if you do get the chance to say anything if you get eaten.....


hey its all good,i have just invested in potato farms







Cant believe your getting involved in a crap thread

Yeap nets and drum lines are the way to go.






oh the hack is so wrong on so many levels....but im stupid enough to have posted this....i would like a answer on my previous post, with proper statistics ...not his made up ones and what he thinks the sharks are thinking





Sitting at home I'm not really into getting back into your continued argument but i could just as easy list you thousands of beaches that don't have drum lines and nets that have had no attacks also.. SO really your idea that they provide protection due to a lack of attack is just as flawed.

You realise these sharks swim from thousands of KMs away. They pass hundreds of beaches that don't have nets and some that do. Its just a luck of the draw really, all be it a bad choice of description.

This year was said to be a hard session for Sharks on your side of the country. It was predicted this could happen after all the heavy rains flushed river system, smaller fish and changed water salinities around rivers and would result in higher bait fish and therefor more sharks.

Two years ago you guys were saying the East coast is so safe because we use nets and drums. Well look now and see who is having the attacks, even though you have used nets and drums for decades. There not the answer is so says all the experts






once again you avoid the real answer....the attacks have been at beaches without drum lines or nets.....so continue with your superior knowledge

i have nothing more....except the need to get more waves



Yep you've got nothing. This has been posted before, but ill share it again. There is actually a map in their that shows just what you after, locations of beaches that have had attacks at netted or drummed beaches, but i can't open it but ill see if i can find someone who can and repost it for you

theconversation.com/has-queensland-really-saved-lives-by-killing-thousands-of-sharks-23437


laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
3 Aug 2015 11:07pm
has balina got drums and nets

these sharks pass a lot of beaches but I would bet most of them there is no one around.

sharks just moving through is well - that's the way it is

its the ones that hang around that pose a danger and certainly something could be do with serial offenders.

if they are sniffing around populated areas probably means they want something.

second time done
Cobra
Cobra
9106 posts
9106 posts
3 Aug 2015 9:16pm
please stop posting bull**** JB…because its not true.

to turn around and say 70 somthing attacks with drums in place on the QLD coast is just ****n lies.

those attacks are all on un drummed waters that includes the GB reef.

you post ****n bull****.

thanks chrispy five crow pecks coming your way pal
Cobra
Cobra
9106 posts
9106 posts
3 Aug 2015 9:24pm
i love this stat.this is where they bend the truth,

During these 160 years, the average fatality rate varied. From 1850 to 1910 it was 0.32 fatalities per year, but then a spike in fatalities in the 1920s saw the average increase to 1.1 per year. After that, the rate of fatal attacks generally declined, falling to a low of 0.2 per year in the 1990s. Since 1962, when the drum line program began, the fatality rate has averaged 0.37 per year, a number not significantly different than that previous to the 1920s.

JB please tell me how many surfers around from 1850 to 1910 Hmmmm.
chrispy
chrispy
WA
9675 posts
WA, 9675 posts
3 Aug 2015 9:28pm
crow peck...that is farken gold

i feel sorry for poor katana having jb the expert spruicking his whares...i would not buy one just because of him if i were on the outside....talk about damaging a brand
chrispy
chrispy
WA
9675 posts
WA, 9675 posts
3 Aug 2015 9:29pm
and 1 2 3
Cobra
Cobra
9106 posts
9106 posts
3 Aug 2015 11:09pm
i see JB your posted site finds this funny.






Macaha
Macaha
QLD
21982 posts
QLD, 21982 posts
4 Aug 2015 6:23am
Discuss debate but don't get personal otherwise I'll have to inflict my super powers and kill the thread
chrispy
chrispy
WA
9675 posts
WA, 9675 posts
4 Aug 2015 4:41am
Macaha said..
Discuss debate but don't get personal otherwise I'll have to inflict my super powers and kill the thread


just kill it....and kill all those pesky sharks while you are at it
Macaha
Macaha
QLD
21982 posts
QLD, 21982 posts
4 Aug 2015 6:43am
chrispy said..

Macaha said..
Discuss debate but don't get personal otherwise I'll have to inflict my super powers and kill the thread



just kill it....and kill all those pesky sharks while you are at it


SP
SP
10982 posts
SP SP
10982 posts
4 Aug 2015 7:34am
chrispy said...
crow peck...that is farken gold

i feel sorry for poor katana having jb the expert spruicking his whares...i would not buy one just because of him if i were on the outside....talk about damaging a brand


It's spelt Patatoes....?
Tux
Tux
VIC
3829 posts
Tux Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
4 Aug 2015 12:29pm
jbshack said..

Tux said..
What about just taking them of the endangered list and setting a real low bag limit and strict sizing

i.e 1 per day over 6 foot and your golden

This would reduce the larger more predatory ones at least.....



Tux did you see a guy was attacked in Vic last week. A bronze whaler.. So were do you stop unless you kill them all..

The point is still the same, cull a thousand sharks and your in the water one day, a shark swims up to bite you, how has that cull helped you at that one moment

We need to think smarter and beyond the simple methods. These large sharks swim up and down the coast from South Australia. Drum lines and nets have been used up and down the coast for decades and yet the problem is increasing. The argument that "This beach has nets/drums and has no attacks" is really irrational as the sharks swim hundreds of kms weekly. So what you kill today will be replaced by another tomorrow. No nets and drums in Vic yet how many attacks, these sharks all swim through the waters.

As for price, well i guess its what price is your health worth.. IN WA our state government has spent $20 million dollars on this issue for what

A set of fins is $160, its a cheap price for some safety..IN the future when Katana get more support, anything will be possible.


Bro I never mentioned the species I just said you can catch whetever you want over 6 foot

I understand what your saying and ideally I would like to see a live and let live policy but the toothy buggers ain't listening

the correlation between GWS maturation times, the ban on killing them and teh number of attacks cannot be conincidence
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