laceys lane said..
Sad part is the super short sup movement is over.


It was 2 years ago but some are hanging on to the ego dream where talk isn't about how good someone is , its how short their riding and thats a bit sad

LordKuz said...



There you go..... short board is superior... cause the food is not going off in the fridge when he's out surfing! Unless he has a spare door for it?

laceys lane said..




Its not!!!!!! Why didn't someone tell me.


Hell, where's my 7'2starby kiddies board

laceys lane said..


do 'one eye' mean anything to you




you love it-arguing, probably even more than surfing them - defence lawyer kami

teatrea said..
Here is my short sup

JeanG said..
@Colas - I find that running lower volume ratio (1.1-1.2) on the narrow boards helps mitigate the tippyness. It's a completely different type of stability from the wide or high volume boards. You get a bit of water over the rails to neutralize the twitchiness, then don't fight the movement of it.

I have an 8'2x25@96L that I can barely stand on. But the 7'4x23.75@80L or 7'6x25@84L are much easier. Myself and others can also paddle the prone longboard 8'x22@80L without much problem.

Sandsy1 said..
What have I started?????? It's getting bigger than Ben Hur!!

Macaha said..




Dont panic its only called big once it hits 6 pages

laceys lane said..
well I surf at a big area wave currumbin alley. you could get a wave at the point and surf down to the twin towers and that would have to be nearly a k

back in the day there was a wider break sups used to own. it always seemed 3,4,5,6 foot. big long rides and big paddle backs. boards were longer, I had a what was considered a bit shorter than. a Gerry lopez ron house 8'10. man the board could run around some huge sections.


you kinda needed the longer boards to get the waves and to paddle back- it was perfect.


then it was cool to start go shorter and shorter to the point where those waves couldn't be caught as easily and you had to be a bit choosy with conditions- lots of water moves around the alley when swell is on.


jacko tells me when its big and he goes out on his gun 9,8 or whatever he's the only one really getting waves


so a healthy scene kind of went backwards. some guys gave it away, lots of us moved onto race boards .


I ran into cmc today . he was out on a 9'2. had a ball he said on the big fat outside waves and rode them through- reminded him of the old days and why he did it.


why we all originally did it

Kami said..




About longitudinal stability see below diagrams. First one is a pointed nose, the second is vanguard style shape. watch the percentage of volume in quarter ends of volumes.
This is the reason of as you call "continuous pitch movement" or why Vangard board are a lot more stable to pitch with narrower width and minimum buoyancy. As well as a lot less row effect.