laceys lane said..

beerssup said..

laceys lane said...
but why use a paddle at that size.


might as well just prone it. you could surf for hours if you wanted too

Maybe because he wants to use a paddlewhy do you ride boring as bats siht long boards when you could surf a wave a lot better on a shortboard.

dear beersups I do surf short boards



and longboards and 12'6 sups and dw

And that's your choice , just like its JeanG choice with a paddle . Who cares what anyone does . as long as your having fun

beerssup said..

laceys lane said...

beerssup said..

laceys lane said...
but why use a paddle at that size.


might as well just prone it. you could surf for hours if you wanted too

Maybe because he wants to use a paddlewhy do you ride boring as bats siht long boards when you could surf a wave a lot better on a shortboard.

dear beersups I do surf short boards



and longboards and 12'6 sups and dw

And back in the day very short surf sups, you used to rip on that old 7 foot something blue kiddies board so I don't understand why your bagging guys for riding the same things you were stoked on. Don't get old and bitter live and let live

its just my opinion now. hey i'm not shooting short sup surfers on sight or anything.

why I even say hello to them if no one else is looking


just a forum and I was having a bit of fun most of the time which seems to be sadly lacking in this room these days


everyone so serious.

Stop jokking gents , we are talking seriously about shortSUP

why bother with a paddle on a board under 7'28", because of these first main reasons:
#1 , i cant reach deep water with my little handy aside of the wide board while paddling proned.
#2, i'm paddling for take off timing with full strength of my whole body instead of elbows even if i got surfer's one
#3 i got a moving free fin to catch the wave flow where i want to move this very reactive powerful shortboard , for example as a trailing one when i get an critical curl position
#4 and many more reasons to do it because every day i find something new and enjoyable as Casso shows a sample on his video

Casso said..

^^ That's a 7'2". I don't think I could have surfed that wave better on a shortboard, even when I was six years younger and riding a shortboard all the time.

come off it casso two bottom turns and two off the lips and you couldn't do better on a short board pfffft…

mate i don't know you but i believe you could.

if you can do that on a 25+ what ever width while swatting flies at the same time you would kill it on a short board.

Cobra said..

Casso said..

^^ That's a 7'2". I don't think I could have surfed that wave better on a shortboard, even when I was six years younger and riding a shortboard all the time.

come off it casso two bottom turns and two off the lips and you couldn't do better on a short board pfffft?

mate i don't know you but i believe you could.

if you can do that on a 25+ what ever width while swatting flies at the same time you would kill it on a short board.

Can be


Casso might reply better than i do but i do say that shortboard skill took more than 30 years of practice to hit the level you reckon.
Short SUP is just bubbling by now , younger short boarder will arise surfing with a paddle later on , just a matter of time

but i'm lonely french man to think that

Cobra said...
come off it casso two bottom turns and two off the lips and you couldn't do better on a short board pfffft…

mate i don't know you but i believe you could.

if you can do that on a 25+ what ever width while swatting flies at the same time you would kill it on a short board.

Ohhh maybe, but I really don't remember ever having as much speed on tap, flow, power or (most importantly) fun.

The one area I do find harder (as Goatman eluded to) is barrel riding, especially backhand. But there's not that many good barrel sessions on Sydney beach breaks anyway.

here is something to think about.




why not just paddle out with a 6 ft x 19" shortboard and a 'paddle', paddle into the wave prone then use the paddle to surf with.




the ultimate in short sup.



did some one say don't be silly

JeanG said..
Good luck covering two miles distance with that setup.

actually if you look at those gps surf watches, a mate has one,i have a standard one, you will find you do cover




well in excess for 2 miles everytime you surf regardless for what craft you use





so you don't need good luck.


how do the smug coy green thumbers feel about that now

Sandsy1 said..
Sorry, I just don't get it.

If you have a good size wave, why not surf a short board? I watch guys on short sups and if I see another flat dishpan turn I'm gonna scream.
They can't go rail to rail, they can't go into vertical snaps, they just don't go, (unless you one of the few pro's who can make it look reasonable).

Anyone???????

Totally get you on that flat dish pan turn bit! Instead of trying to surf like fat mongoloid shortboarders more SUP riders need to come to the realization the SUP thing is a hybrid paddle sport. If they practice hard enough, they might even learn to use that paddle thing to get their boards on the rail and maybe even carving? Instead of a lesser distant third cousin, SUP surfing might even end up a form in itself?

Oh yeah, I am out of the band, so feel free to throw poo where necissary. I will be comfortably back on my own planet playing with my paddles!

thePup said..

laceys lane said..

beerssup said..

laceys lane said...
but why use a paddle at that size.


might as well just prone it. you could surf for hours if you wanted too

Maybe because he wants to use a paddlewhy do you ride boring as bats siht long boards when you could surf a wave a lot better on a shortboard.

dear beersups I do surf short boards



and longboards and 12'6 sups and dw

..... and you are an insatiable animal with too much spare boardcoin in your pockets

"Board coin"

I love it!

The issue is all to do with how much glide you require for your weight to catch the wave you are riding. (Small large fat or dredging of its dial)

If you ride the smallest lenghted sup that is under volumed , you will always have a pretty late take off and find the draw off the bottom way harder to contend with, even when glassy , as SUP boards sit on the surface.

This combined with a high center of gravity and wind resistant body requires you to paddle as hard as you can to gain forward motion , causing the board to pivot.

But actually in many cases you get drawn backwards ,this makes the short sup board more unstable, often it will / can squirrels side ways on a paddle stroke for a bit before the fins / rail bites,

You are also requiring better quality surf and conditions ..............

When your in this situation on a surfboard you are able to sink the tail into the face and a spring board forward kicking your legs and hands all with a lower center of gravity,

If your constantly, falling off, missing waves , finding your self out of position in upto 15knots with some chop , and you can not chill axe in the line up, out of the surfers face and allowing the surfer in front of you to go , your boards to small dood and why bother

You gotta get your chicken leg wobbles under control dood your cracking me up

laceys lane said..
well I surf at a big area wave currumbin alley. you could get a wave at the point and surf down to the twin towers and that would have to be nearly a k

2mi plus surfing, not including

Paddling back after waves? Paddling to one peak from the beach? That's just part of the surfing experience. We're talking 2mi paddle plus surf.

Don't see too many people on 6' shortboards paddling for 2mi in addition to their surfing.

What do you weight Jean?

JeanG said..
Myself and others can also paddle the prone longboard 8'x22@80L without much problem.

8' isn't a longboard. Let's just get that right. You will find the 8' mid length room in limbo

sgo said..



I'll define "surfing" as riding a wave on a board.

Simple physics or hydrodynamics or whatever it is that makes 'boards work will show you that for comparable equipment a surfboard will "surf" better that an SUP.
That's why performance sups are getting closer to surfboard size and design, that's where the best performance is.

TC does look better on a surfboard than an sup.
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I'm not talking about the fun factor, wave count or any other reason we ride what we ride. Just the basics of riding a wave.
(Apologies to the dude in the photos for use of pics.)

There you go..... short board is superior... cause the food is not going off in the fridge when he's out surfing! Unless he has a spare door for it?