Just put the order in for the JL B&B 10'1", will update with full review once I get a few days out on it

adamj2281 said..
Just put the order in for the JL B&B 10'1", will update with full review once I get a few days out on it

I had a 8'11" JL striker for a few years that would have to be one of the most funest sups I have surfed, surfs well of the nose or the tail, a couple of months ago upgraded to the 9'6" B & B as I was looking for a full on noserider, yes I'd did take a couple of surfs to get it wired, but when you do you will love it

I've just picked up a new Sunova style 10' Will let you know what if I can nose ride it ten toes over.

Nice surfing Casso. But, on the nose and ten over are two completely different things.
Lets see em dangle!!

By the way they look a really neat board.

I have never been distressed if my toes weren't over the edge, while its nice.... it isn't all there is to noseriding.

-the feeling like I'm standing on a diving board, suspended above the water.... just air below me.

-the small ankle flips, to turn the board from the nose.

-the "stall" feeling, when you are slotted and in total control

10 is nice.... but you are missing a lot of joy if 3" leaves you disappointed .....yup... that doesn't sound right

Good stuff Casso... exactly what I mean

linter said..
don't get me wrong, i know exactly what you're saying. but from what i can gather, getting five over, not to mention ten, seems to be a quantum leap more difficult than riding on the nose, even 3" from the nose. sure, it's only 3" but to bridge the gap to the tip takes far more skill than the number alone might suggest. it's a vast gulf, really, and thus i think the distinction ought to be made, if only to honor those who can accomplish what so many others can't or are just trying to or, in fact, don't care about.

And I think you just hit the nail there - getting from noseriding to a proper 10-toes over is rarely due to the board (within reason), its all up to the skill & timing the rider has.

Its the indian, not the arrow!

adamj2281 said..
So, I've got 3 sessions on the JL B&B 10'1", here's my quick impressions, although conditions haven't been ideal.
Session#1: sideshore wind, really high tide, weak waist high rollers
Session#2: Too much wind, should have kited instead of SUP
Session #3: Clean, chest to head, some closeouts, would typically be on my AW if I hadn't just gotten this one

-Stability/Paddling: It's plenty stable for me (6'0, 175 lbs), I ride a Fanatic AW 9'2" as my primary board, so it's not as stable as that, but really no issues. To mirror what Linter has said, it is a bit slow to paddle, and it definitely feels like it's the concave and rails slowing it down. I'm not really worried about it, but I am a bit concerned that it may make catching smaller waves difficult.

-Build/Weight: I haven't weighed it officially although I may today, it feels lighter than my 9'2" AW, which was a pleasant surprise. I love the full deck pad, not sure why more companies haven't thought to do this on longboards. Build is solid, single fin is massive and was a bit of a pain to get in place.

-Ride: So, this board is kinda like a home run hitter, in 3 sessions, I've lined up roughly 5 really fun rides where I got to the nose and the concave did it's job. Now, a lot of this is conditions, other than this morning where the surf finally cleaned up and I could pick some clean rides out. The first session I cheated and basically angled the board in the direction I wanted to go and didn't really work on the pivot turn. Today, I worked the pivot turn into the smaller waves when I get them, and it works pretty well. I rode a few waves normal without trying to noseride, and it will turn decently with some glide, little wobbly in the middle of the board. Echoing what everyone else has said, this board takes some getting used too, and is by no means all-around, but....................

The few times I got to the nose and felt it accelerate through the wave with good stability was probably the most fun I've had on a SUP in months. So.......all in all, Jimmy delivered on this one.

If you want a dedicated noserider, this seems to be it, if you want an all-around you occasionally noseride, I'd look at a different board.

Good to see an honest review. Thanks Adam.

Had this pop up in FB yesterday . There were no details, only pics. I'm guessing it's going to be a new release from SB. Looks like quiete a refined, classic, log style shape. Just going off the pics, I reckon it will be a pretty good nose rider.

https://www.facebook.com/windsurfnsnow.watersports/posts/455912321263821

Cant believe knobs arguing over nose riding ....as for cassos effort, that is nose riding maybe not hanging 5 or 10.

And how many of you KBH can surf like that?

I know I cant.

Hey subber - I thought I would give you my 2 cents worth on the 10' Style which basically echos what elbeau already mentioned.

I've previously owned a couple of Laird Surfers...initially the 10'6 x 32" which was a great board to learn on but it started feeling a bit sluggish once I picked up the basics (especially in bigger surf) so I opted for a 10'6 x 30" which I definitely preferred (setup as a quad) although in hindsight, I should have jumped straight from the 10'6 x 32" to the 10' x 30" but hey-ho.

I bought an 8'5 Speeed towards the end of summer & I'm completely sold on the Sunova product offering i.e. workmanship / durability / weight / value for money & most importantly, performance. After parting ways with my Laird to make way for my Speeed, I decided that I still wanted/needed a longboard ride in my quiver so I opted for the 10' Style.

I'm a sissy when it comes to the cold so I've only been out a handful of times this winter in pretty average conditions however, my initial feedback is as follows:

- not as stable as my 10'6 x 30" Laird however that's to be expected (it's plenty stable enough)
- initially felt a bit sluggish to paddle + to get onto smaller waves however I'm not sure if that's because I've been spending more time on my Speeed which is super quick & responsive to paddle or if my weight was possibly in the wrong place
- pops over white water well
- on the few decent waves I have caught, the board really comes to life off the tail
- I've been using the Sunova box fin (which is great quality) & although it's taken a bit of time to get use to, there's no going back for me now
- I've trotted up the nose a good few times & despite not really knowing what I'm doing once I'm on the nose, the board responds really well to subtle changes (my gut feeling is that this is where this board will excel)

The only thing I need to be conscious of is not to bury the nose on take-off but that's mainly because the Speeed has spoilt me whereby it's almost impossible to bury the nose.

I've attached some pics for your reference:

- really thin nose profile however the nose rocker is not very pronounced (especially vs my Speeed) but I'm guessing that's what makes it a good nose rider?
- good tail kick & it's a given that it surfs well off the tail (the swing weight is surprisingly good for this size & shape of board)
- the rails are pretty sharp for the back 1' of the board (from the front of the side FCS plugs backwards) & yes, it's got a nice narrow tail

I'm dead keen to try the 9'6 Style as a comparison however if not, roll on summer so that I can really put my 10' Style through it's paces

No worries subber & everything you mention makes sense to me - thanks for explaining. I'm certainly no authority to answer this (the Sunova team are clearly better placed) however I think the tail of the Style lends itself to performance whereas the nose profile lends itself to nose riding so there's definitely a solid cross-over?

I know it's been said on this forum before however the balsa constuction really does make the Sunova boards feel smooth as....a little bit of magic right there

nice nice nice. now that's what i call noseriding!

btw/ got a video of this you could share?

linter said..
nice nice nice. now that's what i call noseriding!

btw/ got a video of this you could share?

Here is our edit from the same shoot. Check it out.

Thanks Linter,

This was my first real surf on our finalised shape so it took a few waves to feel out. Tail is nicely pulled in so it felt really manouverable and the refined rails really made me want throw a lot more at each turn. The fin set up was one that we have been working on and it worked really well with this board - Tailored 8 inch cutaway centre and some GX stabilisers with refined tips. I surfed our first prototype with a 10 inch Axe fin and it went well but being 10 foot and having the extra width I found the stabilisers help prevent me attempting helicopters every wave and assisted the board through turns. I can't wait to get this board in the water again... let me know if anyone wants to go for a wave and swap out for a few.

Trying to convince the wife that a trip to indo for some lefts will be a good idea for our next shoot