Dawn Patrol said...

Kamikuza said..

So, what'll be the next apex predator to appear that will need a culling in the next few years?

At this rate the apex predator will be the blow fish in a coupla years . Now that's a cull I'd get behind!

Its OK to kill a heap of blowies but not a shark? Its their home remember...

The rape and pillage commercial blokes are killing far more sharks than a few drum lines but the eco terrorists want media attention i guess.

Razzonater said..

I've taken into account the missing swimmer at mullaloo who was an experienced surfer in waist deep water........also several drownings down south bodies not recovered.......

There is actually no evidence he even entered the water. His clothes were found at the beach thats it.. I spoke with cops and rescue groups doing beach walks. They all said the same thing, it was very strange..

Remind me if i ever want to nock someone off to dump their clothes at the beach

Kamikuza said..

So, what'll be the next apex predator to appear that will need a culling in the next few years?

The Murdochs.

It's a media beat up and we just get carried away with it, this stupid statement comparing drownings which are a big killer to shark attacks. ABC!

ThinkaBowtit said..

jbshack said..

Razzonater said..

I've taken into account the missing swimmer at mullaloo who was an experienced surfer in waist deep water........also several drownings down south bodies not recovered.......

There is actually no evidence he even entered the water. His clothes were found at the beach thats it.. I spoke with cops and rescue groups doing beach walks. They all said the same thing, it was very strange..

Remind me if i ever want to nock someone off to dump their clothes at the beach

Wrong jb, someone gave evidence saying said they'd seen him in waist deep water, as Razzonater said.
Between always being available to chat to those in the know at the scene of unfolding dramas; typing and phoning queries and complaints all around the planet; and talking on this forum, it's a wonder you getting any work done.

Yeah lucky i work for myself..

I didn't hear about any witness..

Posters were all over from Quinns to Mullaloo and south. Its hard not to ask whats happening when State Emergency Services walk past me on the beach and say hi. Their Northern base is directly over the road and i have known a few for over 10 years now..

But still a long bow to say he was eaten by a shark..

The fear of attack is real, i don't argue that, but i don't support making up stuff just to help a unpopular political ploy..

evlPanda said..

I've a mate that used to surf every day on the Gold Coast. Every day. Total addict. You know the type. He was able to go along on one of the boats that service the nets and drum lines one day, about five years ago.

He hasn't been in the water since.

I've another friend that works on trawlers in SE Qld. He doesn't go in the water either.

Why the fuss over the WA sharks? Are they more special? Are the people less spec... oh.

So even with nets & drums in place ya mate is still to scared to surf ???
That's a phobia issue.
Having said that , if there were spiders in the ocean I would never go in the sea.

PackraT said..

kiterboy said..

www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/extra/pdf/fishweb/sharksafetyreport.pdf

Amazing! If you swim in a completely netted off beach your chance of being eaten by a shark is almost, but not quite, zero.

D-
Try again.

The info on the drum lining blows all of your shark-hugger's hype out of the water, so to speak.

kiterboy said..

Still waiting for the anti-brigade to address the established science:

www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/extra/pdf/fishweb/sharksafetyreport.pdf

Try and remain objective instead of emotional in your replies.

Hard to argue with this !!!

So much so I'm surprised all state governments haven't followed this obviously successful program?

PackraT said...

kiterboy said..

PackraT said..

kiterboy said..

www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/extra/pdf/fishweb/sharksafetyreport.pdf

Amazing! If you swim in a completely netted off beach your chance of being eaten by a shark is almost, but not quite, zero.

D-
Try again.

The info on the drum lining blows all of your shark-hugger's hype out of the water, so to speak.

Could you perhaps then quote the relevant information specific to drum lining only and how that would relate to the methods being employed by the WA government?

Already did, go back to page 17 of the shark protest thread.

PaddlePig said..

I don't care about any science the bleeding hearts will put up here. I just reckon it's great to see some sharks die. I don't care which ones or size it anything. Just shoot it. I caught a Spanish mackerel on the weekend and everyone said great job. Catch a shark and people cry. I am hoping one a day. Don't think about it, just shoot it. So long as they put a good, serious dent in the numbers!!

Very mature opinion champ we need more young champs like you, maybe one day you will grow up and see that there are other things living on our planet other than you. In my profession I meet more people that want to see sharks, fish and wild animals than people like you that wants to kill any type or size you would be the odd one out!..... One day you might grow up and realise if everyone was like you we would have nothing left to appreciate that's wild.

Most of u shark huggers are so far up ya causes arskahole you dont even get irony/humour/sarcasm
The odd shark will get impaled on a hook, no dolphins turtles or whales...but if sharks are so freakn rare then not many will commit hara kiri on the size 14 hook will they
....destroty the ecosystem .......really.......really!!! Cmon

I am very surprised at all the Shark Haters considering this is Seabreeze and everyone loves the water, they just don't like what is in it.

www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/20-things-that-kill-more-people-than-sharks-every?s=mobile

Ashton19 said..

I am very surprised at all the Shark Haters considering this is Seabreeze and everyone loves the water, they just don't like what is in it.

www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/20-things-that-kill-more-people-than-sharks-every?s=mobile

You'd have to be more surprised at the number of shark haters in Qld then..

QLD Gear Distribution

Cairns: Ellis Beach 1 Net
5 drum lines
Buchans Beach 2 drum lines
Palm Cove 1 net
7 drum lines
Clifton Beach 1 net
2 drum lines
Trinity Beach 1 net
3 drum lines
Yorkeys Knob 1 net
2 drum lines
Holloways Beach 3 drum lines
Total 5 nets
24 drum lines
Townsville Picnic Bay 5 drum lines
Nelly Bay 9 drum lines
Alma Bay 6 drum lines
3 drum lines
Florence Bay 5 drum lines
Radical Bay 5 drum lines
Horseshoe Bay 12 drum lines
Palarenda Beach 3 drum lines
Kissing Point 6 drum lines
Total 54 drum lines
Mackay Harbour Beach 2 nets
9 drum lines
Lamberts Beach 6 drum lines
Blacks Beach 6 drum lines
Eimeo Beach 1 net
(Net rotated for 6 drum lines in turtle season September
to March each year)
Bucasia Beach 2 nets
6 drum lines
Total 5 nets
27 drum lines
Rockhampton Emu Park 6 drum lines
Fisherman???s Beach 6 drum lines
Tanby Beach 5 drum lines
Mullambin Beach 5 drum lines
Kemp Beach 6 drum lines
Lammermoor Beach 10 drum lines
Cooee Bay 6 drum lines
Yeppoon Beach 5 drum lines
Farnborough Beach 5 drum lines
Total 54 drum lines
Tannum Sands Tannum Sands 12 drum lines
Total 12 drum lines
Bundaberg Oak Beach 2 drum lines
Neilson Park 6 drum lines
Bargara Beach 3 drum lines
Kelleys Beach 9 drum lines
Total 20 drum lines
Rainbow Beach Rainbow Beach 3 nets
12 drum lines
Total 3 nets
12 drum lines
Sunshine Coast Noosa 2 nets
3 drum lines
Sunshine Beach 3 drum lines
Sunrise Beach 3 drum lines
North Peregian Beach 3 drum lines
Glen Eden Beach 3 drum lines
Peregian Beach 3 drum lines
Coolum Beach 1 net
Yaroomba Beach 4 drum lines
Hyatt Resort 4 drum lines
Marcoola Beach 1 net
Surfair Resort 4 drum lines
Mudjimba Beach 4 drum lines
Twin Waters Resort 4 drum lines
Maroochydore 2 net
Alexandra Hdl 2 nets
Mooloolaba 1 net
Point Cartwright 3 drum lines
Buddina Beach 6 drum lines
Wurtulla Beach 1 net
Currimundi Beach 4 drum lines
Moffat Beach 3 drum lines
Caloundra Beach 1 net
6 drum lines
Bribie Island (Woorim) 18 drum lines
Total 11 nets
78 drum lines
Point Lookout Amity Point 4 drum lines
Cylinder Beach 12 drum line
Ocean Beach 12 drum lines
Total 28 drum lines
Gold Coast Sheraton Mirage 5 drum lines
Main Beach 1 net
Narrowneck 2 drum lines
Staghorn Avenue 2 drum lines
Elkhorn Avenue 2 drum lines
Surfers Paradise 1 net
Northcliffe 3 drum lines
Broadbeach 2 drum lines
Kurrawa Beach 1 net
Mermaid Beach 1 net
Nobby???s Beach 2 drum lines
Miami Beach 1 net
North Burleigh 2 drum lines
Burleigh Beach 1 net
Tallebudgera Beach 1 net
Palm Beach 2 drum lines
Currumbin Beach 1 net
Tugun Beach 3 drum lines
Bilinga Beach 1 net
Kirra Beach 2 drum lines
1 net
Coolangatta Beach 1 net
Greenmount 2 drum lines
Rainbow Bay 6 drum lines
Total 11 nets
35 drum lines
Grand Total 35 nets
344 drum lines

kiterboy said..

www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/extra/pdf/fishweb/sharksafetyreport.pdf

Interesting report from 2006 - wonder how current it is now 8 years later.

I liked this bit in particular from 16 years ago.....

The 1998 review ???Effect of the Shark Control Program on non-target species: whale, dugong, turtle
and dolphin??? by Gribble et al 1998 supports the fact that the program is not a major contributor to
any decline in vulnerable or threatened species.

Personally i don't think there is any great risk in me getting taken by a shark.
I've played in just about all the oceans all round the world for the last 40 years and survived to tell the tale. The old man did the same but for 80 years he was OK until he died of lung cancer.
I don't support the drum lines or a cull of sharks so i can play safely. I like the risk and the odds are stacked in my favour - but i doubt i'll be crying because a few 3m+ white pointers are taken out of the game

blueprint said..

southace said..

PaddlePig said..

I don't care about any science the bleeding hearts will put up here. I just reckon it's great to see some sharks die. I don't care which ones or size it anything. Just shoot it. I caught a Spanish mackerel on the weekend and everyone said great job. Catch a shark and people cry. I am hoping one a day. Don't think about it, just shoot it. So long as they put a good, serious dent in the numbers!!

Very mature opinion champ we need more young champs like you, maybe one day you will grow up and see that there are other things living on our planet other than you. In my profession I meet more people that want to see sharks, fish and wild animals than people like you that wants to kill any type or size you would be the odd one out!..... One day you might grow up and realise if everyone was like you we would have nothing left to appreciate that's wild.

Do you talk to them about the east coast Drum and nets, take them to see them....remove baits etc.

Not saying for or against but PP's right, the conversation has gone on too long and most aside from the most passionate on both sides are over it.

Something does need to be done, is this right....hmm....not sure....we'll see, should we be working on other solutions also though rather than focussing on the current one (which I'm yet to hear anything better than close your eyes and hope as an alternative), yes.

Meanwhile a good proportion of the commentators (on here atleast) continue to do so from behind the drums and nets in the east......

The regular comparison to car accidents I find interesting while the stats may look good at the end of the day you don't get behind the wheel of your car drunk, drive recklessly without a seatbelt and expect to be ok, we introduced these "controls" to protect those who do get in their cars sober, drive for the most part safely and wear their seatbelts, I see the shark "controls" as the same. If I'm a free driver and get in the ocean to dive with a GWS then yeah I accept I'm taking that risk but it's not the same as going for a swim or a surf. I wonder what the stats of free divers taken by GWS is vs ocean users in WA look like?????

Personally I think its the same risk, you know the danger. Just like riding a motorbike. Its dangerous but you still do it.