I think we as consumers are just plain lazy.

We want it all under one roof at the cheapest possible prices. So long as the fruit n veggies look good it must be good. Plus we want the convenience of being able to go at any time to these places to satisfy our demand.

**** coles and woolies i say. I refuse to give them any of my dollars. I prefer to perhaps pay a little more and give to my local fishmonger, local butcher local bottle shpop etc. As time has gone by they now know who i am and even offer me a couple of quid off, better cuts free bones for the dog etc etc etc

Got my weekly supply again this morning and cooked up organic free range eggs on organic bread for breakfast with a side of fruit salad. yum yum

all fresh all in season all ****ing delicious

mattyjee said...


Stop telling me I should be more organised to do all my shopping once a week.

Let me be.

You should be more organised.
You should shop once a week
You should shop at markets.
I will never let you be.

poor relative said...

mattyjee said...


Stop telling me I should be more organised to do all my shopping once a week.

Let me be.

You should be more organised.
You should shop once a week
You should shop at markets.
I will never let you be.

Got a really good giggle out of that!

mattyjee said...

Stop telling other people how to live their lives. If you want to shop at markets, avoid coles and woolies, and not shop on weekends then go ahead and do it and shut the **** up.

For the rest of us, let us have the ability to shop when we want to. People don't shop at coles and woolies because they are forced to, they do it because they choose to. Why should shops like IGA be favoured by the government. If they want to survive, then they should have to compete. And for all those that think IGA is a small company, I just got back from a holiday in the USA where yes, I saw many IGA grocery shops.

It's so much easier to eat healthy, when you get home from work at 6pm and have time to nip into coles to pick up some food to cook for dinner. Without the grocery chops open, the temptation for fast food is much more.

Stop telling me I should be more organised to do all my shopping once a week. If its good for you then good for you.

Let me be.

All good if you don't work at Coles or Woollies or any other shopping centre that is gonna be forced to extend the trading hours.

Gone are weekends away with your family, footy with the kids, social activities and the like. As an employee you get no choice. You cannot say no to shifts and the penalty rates previously available for weekends slowly slip out the window.

The only beneficiaries are the two big retailers.

If this was your (rather low paid) industry that was changing and you saw the end of weekends and public holidays, I think you'd be a bit pissed off.

thats ok you dont have to work sunday... or monday or tuesday or wednesday and your late night shopping shift is gone so you gonna have to pay for daycare that day while you do the day shift...

but dont worry I wont sack you...

I will just not roster you hours as you are a casual!!! so you wont get any holidays when i finnally get you to quit and employ some one who doesnt make such public acts of defiance who will work when i tell them and we will all be happy.

insert sarcasm and rather difficuly industrial relations conundrum here

Been there done that..

poor relative said...

mattyjee said...


Stop telling me I should be more organised to do all my shopping once a week.

Let me be.

You should be more organised.
You should shop once a week
You should shop at markets.
I will never let you be.

You should be more organised. - Na, work to many hours.
You should shop once a week. - Im not that organised
You should shop at markets. - Markets????? Where?
I will never let you be. - Why? Im sleeping! P!ss off.

Bigwavedave said...

mattyjee said...

Stop telling other people how to live their lives. If you want to shop at markets, avoid coles and woolies, and not shop on weekends then go ahead and do it and shut the **** up.

For the rest of us, let us have the ability to shop when we want to. People don't shop at coles and woolies because they are forced to, they do it because they choose to. Why should shops like IGA be favoured by the government. If they want to survive, then they should have to compete. And for all those that think IGA is a small company, I just got back from a holiday in the USA where yes, I saw many IGA grocery shops.

It's so much easier to eat healthy, when you get home from work at 6pm and have time to nip into coles to pick up some food to cook for dinner. Without the grocery chops open, the temptation for fast food is much more.

Stop telling me I should be more organised to do all my shopping once a week. If its good for you then good for you.

Let me be.

All good if you don't work at Coles or Woollies or any other shopping centre that is gonna be forced to extend the trading hours.

Gone are weekends away with your family, footy with the kids, social activities and the like. As an employee you get no choice. You cannot say no to shifts and the penalty rates previously available for weekends slowly slip out the window.

The only beneficiaries are the two big retailers.

If this was your (rather low paid) industry that was changing and you saw the end of weekends and public holidays, I think you'd be a bit pissed off.

Welcome to the East Coast Trading company.

There has not been penalty rates in Victoria for years. Wifey and I both put ourselves through Uni with part time jobs that just had a flat hourly rate. Nothing extra for late nights, christmas trade or weekends. Vic had/ has extended hours which are awesome when your juggling. Open until midnight most nights and 9pm on weekends.

Did my time in Perth twice and having gone through the 1 late night and the Saturday shopping riot and you can f_cking keep it. Shelves raided by 8.30am and no restocking as everyone is running a friggen till. Now reside in Queensland and they seem to have a pretty good mix.

Perth aint the country town is used to be. The population is ridiculous and extended hours will support the need to spread people out over the week. As unbelievable as it sounds, if you live in Perth, you will survive. Like everything you adapt.

Don't like working weekends? Get a different job. Don't bleed that the boss is making you work weekends because you are CASUAL. By definition that is what casual is.

I feel comfortable saying the above because for years I worked whatever shifts were going to get ahead. Gave up Christmas hols, worked public holidays etc etc. When I started in Engineering I took any work going, ended up overseas and interstate. .But in the end I finally got the lifestyle I wanted. With 2 kids under the belt I can afford to take 8 weeks hoilday a year and can choose to work weekends. Strangly enough with the workload, I always end up putting in 6 hours on Saturday mornings anyway... still plenty of time left to take the boy out on his pee wee or the girl out surfing. Again it's all about choice

And don't start me on supporting IGA etc... With 6 bucks for 3 litres of trim milk compared to $3.96 from Coles, they can f_cking jam it...

I love WA. And I used to love the fact we are so isolated.

The down side to this isolation however, is that people from WA forget that there is actually the rest of the world out there... and all these bull**** theories about stuff simply are not true. QLD has sunday trading (and late night trading) and it works fine. There are still independants. I still have a Coles and an IGA side-by-side and both still exist (except that IGA actually has to be competitive now).

Across the road from Coles is a growers market, local butcher and fishmonger. All businesses in operation. I shop at all of these places, but when i get home from work at 6pm, Coles is the only one still open so they get my business at that time.

I'm really going to miss it when i get back to WA. WA is so closed minded sometimes.

mattyjee said...

WA is so closed minded sometimes.

I agree.
WA'ers seem to resist any kind of change.

Though i do think it sad that the demise of the local retailer and local market is a shame.
I was in rural Scotland recently where all bar a couple of local shops and the markets have closed being pushed out by sterile, ordinary, boring, soul-less Tesco's.

Lost73 said...






And don't start me on supporting IGA etc... With 6 bucks for 3 litres of trim milk compared to $3.96 from Coles, they can f_cking jam it...

serves you right for buying 'trim' milk

Dont need it

Been able to live without it for long enough, weekends are for kids sports, footy, cricket or a snorkle for dib dabs if its a lay day. But the biggest reason is its more time for the mrs to spend ya hard earned coin if she has more time to shop.

Tux said...

.just think you might be grown up enough to have daylight savings soon (que horrifed gasps and talk back callers rabbiting on about faded curtains and upset cows)....

A tired old line that always comes from the pro daylight saving camp.

getfunky said...

I just hope you enjoy paying absolutely TOP dollar for cr@p Eastern states produce trucked over here at enormous expense.

You should be so lucky, the challenge will be to buy something that is even produced in Australia. I picked up a box of chopped spinach at coles and surprise surprise it was a product of China.

Initially when extended trading hours were introduced into special tourist precincts, the Fremantle Chamber of Commerce actively promoted this to some fairly big retailers.

One of them was a very large electrical and home store, one of the most vocal proponents of extended trading hours.

The namesake owner was continually saying how WA's retail hours were hampering consumer choice and how people wanted to shop in his stores on Sunday. So they set up shop in the middle of Fremantle (opposite the Town Hall).

Prime position, support from the local business association and they were able to trade 7 days a week. Sounds like a good formula for success and what the owner wanted.

They are no longer there, closed shop as they said there was not enough trade.

getfunky said...

stamp said...

Lost73 said...






And don't start me on supporting IGA etc... With 6 bucks for 3 litres of trim milk compared to $3.96 from Coles, they can f_cking jam it...

serves you right for buying 'trim' milk

Don't get it doya LOST?

Coles undercuts the local producers (ie Harvey fresh etc) and trucks over Pura from the Eastern states (after forcing the ES dairies to buckle under to dictated pricing) and offloads cheap milk - at a loss - to temporarily sweeten the fat consumers here into thinking that is a good deal.

They also force the local dairies, and other producers, to conform to this unviable model or not be stocked (which they usually are not) and slowly squeeze the local primary producers AND retailers out of the picture, then BANG - back to real prices and the only happy one's are the Fugly twins.

BTW Farmer Jacks do awesome deals on Sth West milk and world class cheeses regularly - e.g. $8 for a 1Kg block of Busselton aged cheddar that makes the eastern states stuff taste like the fodder it is.

Extended trading for the Fugly twins is mostly to cater to fat, lazy consumerholics who can't organise their time and aren't wise enough to look to the future IMO. as usual it is greed and short sightedness driving this venture I reckon.

Let your local primary producers wither at your own economic peril, well maybe not yours - but cirtainly the majority of us in perf that aren't on CUB wages.

Wish i could earn a buck for every CUB in this town, then I could shop wherever and whenever in blissfull ignorance.


Hey Matty - i can't wait for you to visit london for a month then return to WA with a heavy geezer accent and informing us how loike, totally, loike, behind our clubs, foods, music, way of life etc etc are. Ba ha ha ha - stay east if it floats ya boat geezer. Or come back and suck it up.


EDIT: Q? Does more open hours mean more actual consumption?

Probaly not - unless you start eating an extra meal a day fatty. Rather it means the same amount of produce sold in more opening hours, meaning more overheads for staff etc. for the same incoming $$$. So who pays for that eventually? Oh yeah - the consumer.

Not so much that I don’t get it GF, it’s more that I accept it. You raise no extra valid points that have not been raised here on the East Coast years earlier.

For f_ck sake EVERYTHING changes over time. I’ll summarise the following:

Waiting lists for Kindergardens. (you put them on when they are born)

Waiting Lists for Private HIGH schools (you pay 300 bucks for the privilege of waiting before the kids are born).

Local Doctors not taking any new patients (even if you live in the area).

Local Fruit and Veg Shops changing hands every 4 months because the 3.30am starts are too early. Not surprisingly when I was growing up the same local Italian guy ran out F&V until he shut up shop 20 years later. He wanted better for his kids and no-one wanted to buy an existing business.

Bunnings (owned by Westfarmers) taking over Hardware stores.

Optometrists being outdone by specsavers, Big W etc.

You can apply this to many businesses.

The big 4 banks. Do you bank with credit union?

I know plenty of guys that moved to WA to make Hay while the sun shines. They were lucky because most Perth people were bitching about the influx of expats and eastern state guys and whinging about WA supporting the rest of Australia my guys slid in and got the job done. Works both ways as well, I now have WA crew working over here on CSG projects.

Here’s a question for you: Australian tourism aint doing so good. So do you spend the extra cash and go to Queensland or Broome. No like everyone else, most people spend the money going to Bali because it’s CHEAPER. Hell I did when I lived in Perth.

It’ll all be clearer when you accept that WA will not secede from Australia, your mining Royalties will continue to fund the NATION and no-one is going to run a bloody big trench up your border so no-one can get in.

CUB’s. Good on ‘em. If they are willing to work away from their families and friends to afford their kids what they didn’t have then more power to them.

Funny thing is, I support locally where I can… Extended hours are nothing more than a convenience.

doggie said...

Why does a shop have to have a soul???

I wanna get down in the brussels when i get my cabbage