RichardG said..

Grantmac said..
Like I said: drive in straight lines.

That isn't what anyone who actually wavesails would consider wavesailing.

I'm not sure why you are pushing the LT on this when it's clearly not suitable. Almost any other freeride windsurfing board would be better.

I never pushed the LT simply stated facts please indicate expressly where I have said something inaccurate I note you did not answer my question and I note you keep pushing freeride windsurfing boards which are neither wave oriented nor longboards. I simply answered a question from plywoodboy.

The title of the thread includes the words "wave oriented" so please let's keep it on topic.

I watched that vid and just though what a pest in the surf. There's a time a place for windsurfing and that didn't look like to me? Cause you can doesn't always mean you should

DunkO said..
I watched that vid and just though what a pest in the surf. There's a time a place for windsurfing and that didn't look like to me? Cause you can doesn't always mean you should

There was a time at a byron point break where a dedicated lt sailor took off left down the line of a right and ended up entangled with a log going the right way.

Talk about causing trouble. Lucky he wasnt on a foil..

Grantmac said..

Gestalt said..

DunkO said..
I watched that vid and just though what a pest in the surf. There's a time a place for windsurfing and that didn't look like to me? Cause you can doesn't always mean you should

There was a time at a byron point break where a dedicated lt sailor took off left down the line of a right and ended up entangled with a log going the right way.

Talk about causing trouble. Lucky he wasnt on a foil..

If he'd been on a board that could actually turn he would have just taken a cutback. Anything as unwieldy as the LT doesn't belong around surfers.

he was already heading towards the peak.

You keep posting videos of boards going in a straight line, do you even know what wavesailing looks like?

These are my thoughts having had a go at these options in the waves:

SUP with sail: I don't like it. Too much tail rocker and drag.

Kona 10.5: I have sailed this board a lot and will be completely shattered when it finally dies and I can't get a replacement. I use it when the wind is light and/or fluky or the wave lacks a bit of power, The glide from the length is the key to picking up waves early or in the wrong spot, then having enough speed to get to the peak. Bottoms turns and top turns are fun, but graceful rather than aggressive. The key is foot placement and moving your weight around. The step tail allows planing in the same wind as a regular short board, if not a bit earlier (for the same size sail). They are fast on the plane. They are the windsurfing equivalent of a mal to surfing I suppose. And fun for the same reasons.

P.S. The TT construction is very light weight for size, and light weight is a game changer for longboards in the surf. Not all Kona's are TT from what I can tell?

Windsurfer LT. I have bottom turned and top turned my LT in stormies, using techniques I learnt from the Kona. More a proof of concept thing for me, others may differ. Maybe OK for a fun session in small uncrowded waves when you don't have any other gear handy. The rig I think would be confetti if you dropped it in front on any sizeable wave.

P.S. Profile pic is a Kona One from years ago. Good times ha ha.

That Minitanker looks like a weapon kind of like the FSW equivalent of a longboard if you'd consider the Sealion as the pure waveboard of longboards.

At 65cm do you find it challenging to uphaul in chop? 66-68cm seems to be my personal stability limit for a reliable uphaul unless it's a raceboard.

fortunate enough to have used majority of the boards being discussed and agree for onshore lightwind days longer boards are better. so is a much flatter rocker.

uphauling for me is more about volume. i have a 71 wide 125lt board that i struggle to uphaul unless it's flat water and a 66 wide 135lt board i can uphaul in small surf. also have a 9'8" x 33" wave sup that's easy to uphaul too. longboards also easy to uphaul.

one of my mates uses both the LT and the Kona's in small surf. whilst he prefers the Kona's for surf he uses the LT without complaint.
horses for courses. both good in different waves. one surfs like a log and the other is more like a funboard.

neither are like shortboards. guess thats why we have so many options.

also don't agree that sups don't plane. maybe that's another option. especially the older models. i have some older fanatics that are great. my custom sup doesn't plane so good but the shaper has a ducktail version that planes.

@Mucel wrote: "I doubt if Exocet windsup 10'2" would have the right rocker."

10'2" Exocet Windsup can plane, but it takes 14mph wind or so, which is more than the Exocet X-Longboard needs. Personally, I prefer having the rocker though, since it turns great on a wave as a result. I use it in very light wind, like under 12 mph. If it's windier, then I'm on my Dyno 125L or smaller.