So sick how they've changed colours from their 2001 model. Cutting edge product development right there

SamDillon said..
So sick how they've changed colours from their 2001 model. Cutting edge product development right there

That's what I was thinking .. but why the smiley face? I'm serious actually. Unchanged for 20 years.

JakeNN said..
That's what I was thinking .. but why the smiley face? I'm serious actually. Unchanged for 20 years.

I'm going back a bit further but a fair bit has changed in 20+ years, there's been a lot of refinements. Those 1998 & 1999 Ezzy wave sails were bomb proof but there's no way I'd enjoy sailing those generation of sails compared to the new ones.

2003 was 20 years ago:



Looks pretty similar.

Grantmac said..
2003 was 20 years ago:



Looks pretty similar.

Do you think if you sailed a 2003 Ezzy sail it would feel different to a 2023 one? Of course sails look similar that's like saying boards look similar 10 years ago therefore must be the same.

2013 Fanatic Quad versus 2023 Fanatic Grip. Looks the same must be the same.

Flying Dutchman said..

JakeNN said..
That's what I was thinking .. but why the smiley face? I'm serious actually. Unchanged for 20 years.

I'm going back a bit further but a fair bit has changed in 20+ years, there's been a lot of refinements. Those 1998 & 1999 Ezzy wave sails were bomb proof but there's no way I'd enjoy sailing those generation of sails compared to the new ones.

98's are bomb proof Paul.

Grantmac said..
2003 was 20 years ago:



Looks pretty similar.

4 battens vs 5 battens?

Put up a picture of a 20 year old board and get back to me.
Or pictures of other sail brands 20 years apart.

I'm not an Ezzy hater, I like the durability and I still have some 2000s 4 batten waves that I'll sail in big weather. They just aren't on the forefront and if a person wants to sail them then a 5 year+ purchasing cycle is likely as frequent as needed.

Grantmac said..
Put up a picture of a 20 year old board and get back to me.
Or pictures of other sail brands 20 years apart.

I'm not an Ezzy hater, I like the durability and I still have some 2000s 4 batten waves that I'll sail in big weather. They just aren't on the forefront and if a person wants to sail them then a 5 year+ purchasing cycle is likely as frequent as needed.

So just to clarify, you're basing your judgement on Ezzy on sails you've got from the 2000s? What Ezzy wave sail has 4 battens from the 2000s? The only ones I could see were a couple of years that had a 3.3 and smaller in a 4 batten. What's the newest one you've tried?

I thought the same as you until a couple of years ago I tried a Severne Blade. I expected it to feel better than my Ezzy. The general consensus was telling me it would, I was surprised when it didn't. Was also a good sail, I loved it, but it honestly didn't feel hugely different, in fact I found the Ezzy more stable. It gave me renewed enthusiasm for what I had.

I hear people say Ezzys haven't changed in 20 or something a fair bit. Usually from people who haven't tried one in 20 years. I think Ezzy have a bit of an image problem. The website looks like it was designed it 1998 and the marketing material is pretty no frills. It's certainly doesn't have a cool slick image like a Goya or Severne or whatever. I personally like the no frills approach but it doesn't appeal to fashion conscious sailors.

The sails don't have trendy little cutouts on the leech or graphic designers designing the latest graphics to be on trend. Some years the colour combos were pretty horrible but generally that has improved. I've used Ezzy since 1999 and have witnessed some significant design changes since then. If someone says the sails are the same as 20 years ago it's laughable. It's a funny joke but it's just not my experience.

Fair enough we all have our preferences. The last time an Ezzy wavesail was called an SE was in 2009 when Josh Angulo was using them and became wave world champion. If yours is a 2018 it's an Elite.

If you get a chance to try the newest Taka (now Taka 7) they feel significantly better than Taka 3 which had a PVC window amongst other design differences. They really excel in DTL and feel much crisper and direct.

Done more than 30,000kms with Ezzy sails. Love them.

Of course, they are not as well built as old ezzy in 200...My old panthers are still alive and bright The new ezzy esp after 2000 are very sensitive Just a few rides and you can see how delicate it is but I think they are strong enough. The ezzy wave is a little more direct and crisp but this is not a crisp and direct sail still soft in comparison to other sails . The bigger numbers of ezzy waves like 5.5 are a bit strange in the water due to their deep profile. In the min 1 2, and min -med boom setting the sail touches and almost go around the boom despite that my boom has a relative open angle It's hard to pull it out of the water Feels a bit heavier but i believe it s due to the heavy ezzy mast (430 2 kg!!!!)
In comparison to taka 5 - Ezzy wave
Ezzy wave center of the effort more to the center more stable and better for projection moves a 5.5 feels like a 5.5 or maybe a little bigger
Taka 5 center of effort to the front less stable more maneuverable and light in hands a 5.3 feels like a 5.8
IMO ezzy wave created mixed feelings Taka 5 was a breakthrough for me

Wish I lived in a place that I needed a new 4.7for

I just replaced the '21 3,7/4,2/4,7 for the '23.
Biggest change is the draft as mentioned above and the extended clew on the smaller sizes. I have the 3.7 and I don't like the optical part of it that much, but hey - everything gets used.

First impression was with the 3,7 in well overpowered Dutch coastal conditions and it felt more on/off, neutral and stable, which I very liked! Looking forward to get the other sizes out in more forgiving conditions so that I can play a bit with the set up of the sails.

Wonderful colors - I have the bleu ones!