Booms - What are the choices?

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seanhogan
seanhogan
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4 Aug 2013 7:54pm
Not sure if you have them in Oz but AL 360 are really good too, carbon is really top stuff and the aluminium one is the best I've tried.
jh2703
jh2703
NSW
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4 Aug 2013 8:07pm
I've been using the pryde X6 for a few year, I've always had 2 due to the fact I've snapped the arm off everyone I've owned...That said I still loved em. Been running an X9 the last few months and it is superb. I did get it at the right price that made it a no brainer but I'd still pay full price for a new one. I've used the enigma an it is something unique but I don't know how long it will last with 95kgs hanging off it. I've seen at least 2 guys lighter then me snap them at Gerroa which is far from hardcore, But they do feel nice in the hands.
barn
barn
WA
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4 Aug 2013 6:22pm
jh2703 said...
I've been using the pryde X6 for a few year, I've always had 2 due to the fact I've snapped the arm off everyone I've owned...That said I still loved em. Been running an X9 the last few months and it is superb. I did get it at the right price that made it a no brainer but I'd still pay full price for a new one. I've used the enigma an it is something unique but I don't know how long it will last with 95kgs hanging off it. I've seen at least 2 guys lighter then me snap them at Gerroa which is far from hardcore, But they do feel nice in the hands.


If one of those two breakages is Siny's then that's hardcore.

It's pretty easy to make a boom that doesn't break, just make the diameter 28mm and put 6kg of carbon in it..
jh2703
jh2703
NSW
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4 Aug 2013 9:00pm
^^^Just saying all thing break, Siny will be happy to know he's hardcore.
stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
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5 Aug 2013 9:22am
I have had Chinook, Neil Pryde X7 carbon, X9 carbon, Severne Enigma. By far the Enigma is the lightest and stiffest boom I have used. I still have the Pryde booms. The X7 is 8 years old and i've probably spent a few hundred hours on the water with that boom. Destroyed about 4 sails in the surf while using it. Yet it's still going strong.

The Chinook Aluminium booms are bomb proof. I actually think you could use them to tow a car if you'd have to.

Can't make comments on the durability of the Severne as I have only had it for about 5 months. It looks and feels solid despite the thin arm diameter. The drawback off all carbon booms is price. Expect to pay at least $550 to $600. A bit more for a Severne or Pryde.
K Dog
K Dog
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1847 posts
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6 Aug 2013 5:39pm
I upgraded to a Gaastra full carbon boom and love it. Strong, stiff, very light, tappered at front for your hand.... strong head piece...... feels amazing.....
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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12 Aug 2013 12:34pm
I imagine the Severne booms are "back-to-front", like everything else Severne? That is: everything Severne rigs with the sail being port side up.
It's a bit of a nuisance if one piece in your rig is/isn't Severne. I suppose you could have a boom permanently upside-down.

I was going to purchase an Enigma last year, but they were unobtainable, so I bought a North Platinum instead. Apart from the way the grip started to fall off in the first 30 minutes it's a noticeable step up from the Pryde X6 I had before. They've replaced it with a shiny new one btw, no questions.

All carbon is stiff, and swing weight is light.


Jman
Jman
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12 Aug 2013 6:53pm
evlPanda said..

I imagine the Severne booms are "back-to-front", like everything else Severne? That is: everything Severne rigs with the sail being port side up.
It's a bit of a nuisance if one piece in your rig is/isn't Severne. I suppose you could have a boom permanently upside-down.

I was going to purchase an Enigma last year, but they were unobtainable, so I bought a North Platinum instead. Apart from the way the grip started to fall off in the first 30 minutes it's a noticeable step up from the Pryde X6 I had before. They've replaced it with a shiny new one btw, no questions.

All carbon is stiff, and swing weight is light.




Gee I remember the North grip peeling off my mates boom the 1st time he used it about 4 years ago....somethings never change!
Hooksey
Hooksey
WA
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13 Aug 2013 9:38pm

Does anyone have any experience with the chinook carbon booms?
robbo1111
robbo1111
NSW
654 posts
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14 Aug 2013 9:19am
Hooksey said..
Does anyone have any experience with the chinook carbon booms?


Just bought a wave boom recently. Its a strange looking shape and not the skinniest diameter in the market but in terms of functionality i'm pretty happy. The attachment to the mast doesn't require a shim and I've had no issues with the boom slipping. One nice touch is the extension actually shows the total boom width, so if your sail requires 165 boom you open the boom to 165 rather than do a bit of mental arithmetic adding say 25cm of extension to the base boom width. I think Severne has similar thing.

I've been anti-carbon wave booms for sometime due to using a dreaded NP one for a short time and also being a light weight I never had any breakage issues with Aluminium ones. But in a bid to make my rig a bit more efficient I've gone carbon and also ditched the US cup style base in favour of the Euro pin.
lao shi
lao shi
WA
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14 Aug 2013 8:30am
Hooksey said..


Does anyone have any experience with the chinook carbon booms?


Talk to Troppo he has a pile of them.
Troppo
Troppo
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14 Aug 2013 8:56am
lao shi said..

Hooksey said..


Does anyone have any experience with the chinook carbon booms?


Talk to Troppo he has a pile of them.


That's the last time I let you in my garage!

Its true I have a pile of them for good reason, they last.

Made in the Gorge USA.
Jman
Jman
VIC
881 posts
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14 Aug 2013 6:09pm
Hooksey said..


Does anyone have any experience with the chinook carbon booms?


I will give the Chinook Pro 1 carbons the thumbs up too, I have been using a couple for the last 2 seasons and so far so good, like robbo says they are not the narrowest dia out there. Im actually surprised that some guys seem to feel its so important to have an ultra skinny boom.
ginger pom
ginger pom
VIC
1746 posts
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14 Aug 2013 7:50pm
severne enigma.... great boom.
ejmack
ejmack
VIC
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16 Aug 2013 4:37pm
Another happy Chinook Pro1 carbon user here. No malfunctions or breakages after two fairly consistent seasons (for Victoria) use. I do prefer to use mine with a rubber shim (no limitz) rather than the adaptor as the fit seems just a little bit more secure/solid. I seem to be fairly hard on booms, or have had some very bad luck as I broke two previous carbons and numerous alloys in a space of a few years. No issues with the Chinook so far.
ballina
ballina
QLD
5 posts
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17 Aug 2013 10:08pm
Best boom I have ever used in over 20 years of sailing is the severne enigma carbon wave boom.
Quality - Might have to try their sails.
jermaldan
jermaldan
VIC
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23 Aug 2013 10:56am
Severne Enigma. Transforms how the rig feels. Amazing boom.
ejmack
ejmack
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23 Aug 2013 11:12am
jermaldan said..

Severne Enigma. Transforms how the rig feels. Amazing boom.



That's fairly normal going to a good quality carbon regardless of brand. Don't get me wrong, the Enigma's look great and feel solid.
dan berry
dan berry
WA
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23 Aug 2013 5:53pm
There's a lot more to a good boom than just building it out of carbon.
ejmack
ejmack
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23 Aug 2013 8:15pm
dan berry said..

There's a lot more to a good boom than just building it out of carbon.



Gee, really... who would have thought!
pxlwz
pxlwz
WA
6 posts
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27 Aug 2013 1:25pm
I have the Chinook Pro 1 180-246:

Pros: Super light.

Cons: Soft like butter. By far the softest carbon boom I have ever sailed. My old (2003) Fiberspars are stiffer.
I can't comment on the other sizes, but If I use the Mauisails boom 190-240 with my TR7 7.6, I can be on the water with My RS4 111L, when my buddy (230 lbs) is lit on his Loft Blade 7.8, JP118 (2012) with an Aeron aluminum boom.
I weigh in ??? around 170lbs...

I cannot recommend this boom for race sails. If you only want a light boom for light wind free ride sailing, it might work for you.

Markus
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
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27 Aug 2013 9:33pm
I nee
pxlwz said..
I have the Chinook Pro 1 180-246:Pros: Super light.

Cons: Soft like butter. By far the softest carbon boom I have ever sailed. My old (2003) Fiberspars are stiffer.

I can't comment on the other sizes, but If I use the Mauisails boom 190-240 with my TR7 7.6, I can be on the water with My RS4 111L, when my buddy (230 lbs) is lit on his Loft Blade 7.8, JP118 (2012) with an Aeron aluminum boom.

I weigh in ??? around 170lbs...

I cannot recommend this boom for race sails. If you only want a light boom for light wind free ride sailing, it might work for you.

Markus


I needd one, give you a carton for it.
northy1
northy1
500 posts
500 posts
4 Sep 2013 5:15am
anyone compared the Al360 to the Severne enigma?
Obelix
Obelix
WA
1171 posts
WA, 1171 posts
10 Sep 2013 1:53pm

No cheap options...Gun, Loft...?
Not good at all?
andersbq
andersbq
61 posts
61 posts
29 Sep 2013 3:45pm
raffig said..

Hi, I am from Spain but I regularly read your forum with great interest.

If you have the chance (and the $$$...), I recommend trying one of these:

x-booms.com/

I recently purchased a Formula boom and they are in a completely different league... I have owned X9, Aeron and HP, but these ones are really something different.
High-end custom carbon build, the tail end is just a wonder piece of crafmanship, and the feel of the cork grip is actually really nice.

No intended publicity, and they do not sponsor me either! I think that these booms are by far the best ones out there.


I have used 3 of them this year and ordered another 2 for Luderitz www.andersbq.com/2013/09/luderitz-booms.html, but we should not push their products too hard, cause the delivery time will be awful if everyone would order them.
Stuthepirate
Stuthepirate
SA
3591 posts
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29 Sep 2013 6:38pm
you could try an Earth Shattering Ka Boom. But apparently there is a long wait on delivery.
petermac33
petermac33
WA
6415 posts
WA, 6415 posts
29 Sep 2013 5:24pm
The X booms claim to be be one kg lighter.

Were that true with still decent durability I would be ordering one ASAP.

A one kg reduction in boom weight would make a massive difference to feel and enjoyment of windsurfing for sure.

How much are these booms including delivery?
KevinD002
KevinD002
226 posts
226 posts
30 Sep 2013 5:19am
Stuthepirate said..

you could try an Earth Shattering Ka Boom. But apparently there is a long wait on delivery.


Why is that? I was considering one!
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
30 Sep 2013 8:35am
Obelix said..


No cheap options...Gun, Loft...?
Not good at all?


I'm using a Gun boom. I used to have the loft ones and the Gun seems more solid locked on feel although the loft one was old when it broke. It was after 4 seasons sailing and I sail a lot although I'm only a lightweight.Only thing I don't like about the gun is I find I have trouble adjusting the height on the boom when rigging . It locks so tight I have to use my feet to push it along. You strong people may not have that trouble..( I often cant put the boom in the right spot until the sail is downhauled the whole way as it need sot be near the bottom of the cutout 5' 6"..)
Haggar
Haggar
QLD
1670 posts
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1 Oct 2013 1:34pm
KevinD002 said..

Stuthepirate said..

you could try an Earth Shattering Ka Boom. But apparently there is a long wait on delivery.


Why is that? I was considering one!


I've got a KA Carbon Wide Tail and an NP X9, cant say that the KA is very stiff compared to the NP X9
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