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LeeD
LeeD
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LeeD LeeD
3939 posts
12 Nov 2019 1:02am
Decrepit.
No one really lands nose first on purpose.
While it is smoother and safer than flat landings, the chances of too much nose [augers in at speed is a form of pearling], or not enough nose [flat] is too high a price.
Tail first is safest and easiest to replicate.
Easy to plane out of tail first landings, if you have forward speed.
I have broken in half, 6 high wind boards from bad flat landings.
LeeD
LeeD
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LeeD LeeD
3939 posts
12 Nov 2019 1:04am
Oh....none broken in wave conditions, all high wind flat water.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12872 posts
decrepit decrepit
WA, 12872 posts
12 Nov 2019 8:06am
Well I used to do nose first landings on purpose, so did a lot of others around here. The landing is very soft and hardly any speed lost, but as soon as my heavy nose rocker disappeared, that all changed, as you say, became much too risky.
LeeD
LeeD
3939 posts
LeeD LeeD
3939 posts
12 Nov 2019 9:55am
I've talked to dozens of acknowledged great jumpers and none advocate nose landing.
However, I know several "verge of sponsorship" guys who say they land nose first, but they are NOT the best jumpers on any given day.
The 4 local Pro freestyles here in SF bay will say I still qualify as a better than average big jumper.
Two were pros until 5 years ago.
2 still are.
kato
kato
VIC
3527 posts
kato kato
VIC, 3527 posts
12 Nov 2019 4:44pm
decrepit said..
Well I used to do nose first landings on purpose, so did a lot of others around here. The landing is very soft and hardly any speed lost, but as soon as my heavy nose rocker disappeared, that all changed, as you say, became much too risky.


Funny..... I did too. I never liked the slow drag up onto the plane after a good jump
LeeD
LeeD
3939 posts
LeeD LeeD
3939 posts
12 Nov 2019 2:06pm
Yeah, if you jump 5 times a day, you can land nose first.
We're talking flat water, not wave sailing.
Flat water jumping, it's EASY to plane out of landings.
Since you can't, maybe you CAN jump, but would you say you are a good jumper?
Not a chance!
azymuth
azymuth
WA
2169 posts
azymuth azymuth
WA, 2169 posts
12 Nov 2019 2:20pm
LeeD said..
Yeah, if you jump 5 times a day, you can land nose first.
We're talking flat water, not wave sailing.
Flat water jumping, it's EASY to plane out of landings.
Since you can't, maybe you CAN jump, but would you say you are a good jumper?
Not a chance!


Dude, have you ever considered that you might not know everything?
LeeD
LeeD
3939 posts
LeeD LeeD
3939 posts
12 Nov 2019 3:18pm
Tell me you are or were one of the best jumpers and I will believe you.
I am top 5% jumper in the SF Bay area, with plenty of pros,known to you, who will verify.
And I admit I suck at windfoiling.
ka43
ka43
NSW
3101 posts
ka43 ka43
NSW, 3101 posts
12 Nov 2019 6:23pm
Stop with the "Im **** hot and a legend" stuff. Seriously, you must have a million tickets on yourself.
Jonski
Jonski
WA
77 posts
Jonski Jonski
WA, 77 posts
12 Nov 2019 6:08pm
I used to land flat... but then I did have a Tiga and my ankles were more likely to break than the board.
Mr Keen
Mr Keen
QLD
692 posts
Mr Keen Mr Keen
QLD, 692 posts
12 Nov 2019 9:40pm
LeeD said..
I've talked to dozens of acknowledged great jumpers and none advocate nose landing.
However, I know several "verge of sponsorship" guys who say they land nose first, but they are NOT the best jumpers on any given day.
The 4 local Pro freestyles here in SF bay will say I still qualify as a better than average big jumper.
Two were pros until 5 years ago.
2 still are.


I wish mine was a big as yours, I am sick of this 10" thing
LeeD
LeeD
3939 posts
LeeD LeeD
3939 posts
13 Nov 2019 12:35am
That the same as the BS nose landing.
LeeD
LeeD
3939 posts
LeeD LeeD
3939 posts
13 Nov 2019 12:45am
Can I say?
62 days into windfoiling. Eh.
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
hoop hoop
1979 posts
14 Nov 2019 3:58am
LeeD said..
I've talked to dozens of acknowledged great jumpers and none advocate nose landing.
However, I know several "verge of sponsorship" guys who say they land nose first, but they are NOT the best jumpers on any given day.
The 4 local Pro freestyles here in SF bay will say I still qualify as a better than average big jumper.
Two were pros until 5 years ago.
2 still are.


You're awesome LeeD!!
I think it's time for a LeeD appreciation thread. That way we can all talk about how awesome you are, you won't have to do it all by yourself anymore.
Perhaps you could send in some of your magazine covers for the thread.
mathew
mathew
QLD
2167 posts
mathew mathew
QLD, 2167 posts
14 Nov 2019 1:43pm
hoop said..

You're awesome LeeD!!
I think it's time for a LeeD appreciation thread. That way we can all talk about how awesome you are, you won't have to do it all by yourself anymore.
Perhaps you could send in some of your magazine covers for the thread.




... can I sign-up... I want to be awesome too.
LeeD
LeeD
3939 posts
LeeD LeeD
3939 posts
15 Nov 2019 3:13am
You can sign up for sure, but you still have to sail fast and jump high repeatedly to qualify.
Not one jump once.
gorgesailor
gorgesailor
640 posts
gorgesailor gorgesailor
640 posts
15 Nov 2019 4:25am
LeeD said..
You can sign up for sure, but you still have to sail fast and jump high repeatedly to qualify.
Not one jump once.


FFS
LeeD
LeeD
3939 posts
LeeD LeeD
3939 posts
15 Nov 2019 5:04am
As said, Bruce Peterson, Mike Kitts, Dale Cook.
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
hoop hoop
1979 posts
15 Nov 2019 5:16am
LeeD said..
As said, Bruce Peterson, Mike Kitts, Dale Cook.


Who?
gorgesailor
gorgesailor
640 posts
gorgesailor gorgesailor
640 posts
15 Nov 2019 5:25am
hoop said..

LeeD said..
As said, Bruce Peterson, Mike Kitts, Dale Cook.



Who?


Exactly! ... LeeD no one is Aus gives a $h!t who these guy are. They have their own locals. They aren't Pro's. Any PWA guy could do anything these guys have ever done - better, faster & higher.

Now, don't get me wrong they are all nice guys & good sailors. Next time I talk to Bruce I'll ask him where LeeD sit's on his list of jumping Gurus... Who? ... What list? .... Huh? ... yeah see nobody cares.

BTW... Dale usually lands nose. Don't be a Douchebag!
LeeD
LeeD
3939 posts
LeeD LeeD
3939 posts
15 Nov 2019 7:01am
Actually, seen dozens of videos of Dale jumping really high and most look like normal TAIL first landings.
Sure, lower longer jumps are often nose first landings, but high vertical jumps are different.
Of course, you might not know since you don't speak from experience.
gorgesailor
gorgesailor
640 posts
gorgesailor gorgesailor
640 posts
15 Nov 2019 7:24am
LeeD said..
Actually, seen dozens of videos of Dale jumping really high and most look like normal TAIL first landings.
Sure, lower longer jumps are often nose first landings, but high vertical jumps are different.
Of course, you might not know since you don't speak from experience.


Yeah, what would I know...
kato
kato
VIC
3527 posts
kato kato
VIC, 3527 posts
15 Nov 2019 10:44am
Sailing again today..... getting a bit sick of using my 5.8 all the time
olskool
olskool
QLD
2462 posts
olskool olskool
QLD, 2462 posts
15 Nov 2019 9:54am
kato said..
Sailing again today..... getting a bit sick of using my 5.8 all the time


Cool! Lets get back on topic. Ditch the i know the nose but just cant pick it, bragging BS.
Looking like we will get yet another 20-30kt Northerly here at GB. Woohoo!! All the regulars plus quite a few travelled sailors. Been a great start to the season.
LeeD
LeeD
3939 posts
LeeD LeeD
3939 posts
15 Nov 2019 7:55am
That's exactly why I have 5.3, 5.5, 5.6, 5.8, and 6.0's in the garage.
sailquik
sailquik
VIC
6171 posts
sailquik sailquik
VIC, 6171 posts
15 Nov 2019 10:57am
Yep. Its a solid 20-25 knots all along the coast and 25-30+ in places. Tomorrow and well.
LeeD
LeeD
3939 posts
LeeD LeeD
3939 posts
15 Nov 2019 8:04am
I wonder, do you guys train and workout in the off season specifically for windsurfing?
I never have, maybe that's why I never got good.
Playing tennis and riding bikes do nothing for windsurfing.
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
hoop hoop
1979 posts
15 Nov 2019 8:18am
LeeD said..
I wonder, do you guys train and workout in the off season specifically for windsurfing?
I never have, maybe that's why I never got good.
Playing tennis and riding bikes do nothing for windsurfing.


No I think you never got good because you spent too much time telling everyone how awesome you are rather than actual sailing.
Playing tennis and riding bikes don't do much for windsurfing, neither does talking **** and dropping names all the time
LeeD
LeeD
3939 posts
LeeD LeeD
3939 posts
15 Nov 2019 8:25am
Funny.
I averaged 90 days a year from '83 to '12, in planing conditions.
Since I retired then, I sail an average of 130 days a year.
Biggest board owned before 2012 was 97 liters.
Mr Keen
Mr Keen
QLD
692 posts
Mr Keen Mr Keen
QLD, 692 posts
15 Nov 2019 10:45am
Bugger off LeeD. Back to topic please.
Hope to see some good speed from our Southern friends today!!
we might get 25 knots if we are lucky
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