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ka43
ka43
NSW
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25 Feb 2009 7:15pm
Great work Elmo.
For us wind starved Sydney siders your spot is just paradise.
Fark, how long are the runs and the water is so flat!!
One day will make the cross continent trek and try Mandurah.
elmo
elmo
WA
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WA, 8890 posts
25 Feb 2009 5:59pm
ka43 said...

Great work Elmo.
For us wind starved Sydney siders your spot is just paradise.
Fark, how long are the runs and the water is so flat!!
One day will make the cross continent trek and try Mandurah.


That's less than half way still not even in Claudesville yet another km or 2 to go




elmo
elmo
WA
8890 posts
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26 Feb 2009 9:12am
Pugwash said...

Bertie said...

i'm pertty sure you overtook me at 3.09


...and that looks a lot like ol' fatso Pugwash undertaking you from about 4:20

EDIT: BTW, I love the crash... OH NO, speed racer


Sorry Pugsy I didn't realize who you were till I just check your profile I think I have a some more vid of you in race 2.

Just doing Race 3 at moment should hopefully post tonight
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
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26 Feb 2009 9:27am
I may have given you a bit of a ribbing on the way past in race 2... Maybe I had been following you for the best part of 3 km
elmo
elmo
WA
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26 Feb 2009 9:49am
Pugwash said...

I may have given you a bit of a ribbing on the way past in race 2... Maybe I had been following you for the best part of 3 km


I'll have to edit that bit out

Twas all cool, looked pretty good should hopefully have posted that one by weekend, R3 currently uploading (takes a few hours)
nebbian
nebbian
WA
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WA, 6277 posts
26 Feb 2009 11:02am
The racing was very close, in one of the races I was following Reg for most of the leg, I couldn't get close enough to pass, he couldn't pull away, we were dead even. Going 3 k's with only 10 metres separation between us says something about how evenly matched we were.

Of course this all changed at the gybe marker!

Never got close to Elmo though. Thanks for the vid, I think you managed to find a remix of the original hardcore mix (mine's a bit different). Thought I was the only deviant to have that one still kicking around!
sick_em_rex
sick_em_rex
NSW
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NSW, 1601 posts
26 Feb 2009 10:38pm
nebbian said...

The racing was very close, in one of the races I was following Reg for most of the leg, I couldn't get close enough to pass, he couldn't pull away, we were dead even. Going 3 k's with only 10 metres separation between us says something about how evenly matched we were.

Of course this all changed at the gybe marker!

Never got close to Elmo though. Thanks for the vid, I think you managed to find a remix of the original hardcore mix (mine's a bit different). Thought I was the only deviant to have that one still kicking around!


I've got the same mix on my hard drive in the car Nebs. Wife makes me turn the groaning bit off so the kids don't ask too many questions.
nebbian
nebbian
WA
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26 Feb 2009 9:03pm
sick_em_rex said...



I've got the same mix on my hard drive in the car Nebs. Wife makes me turn the groaning bit off so the kids don't ask too many questions.


Groaning yes, "I've never done anything illegal in my life" no
elmo
elmo
WA
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27 Feb 2009 7:02am
Here's Race 3,

Finally sorted the soundtrack, still didn't come up right program kept leaving a blank bit between tracks Tried saving it 4 times @ 20mins a shot, gave up in the end, anyone got any good video editing prog's suggestions

Don't laugh to much at the Gumby start again

sick_em_rex
sick_em_rex
NSW
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NSW, 1601 posts
27 Feb 2009 10:34am
nebbian said...

sick_em_rex said...



I've got the same mix on my hard drive in the car Nebs. Wife makes me turn the groaning bit off so the kids don't ask too many questions.


Groaning yes, "I've never done anything illegal in my life" no


Ummah Ben, I'm gonna dob on you to my wife
slowboat
slowboat
WA
560 posts
WA, 560 posts
27 Feb 2009 10:14am
hey elmo- try front hand palm down when you gybe... much easier when you flip the rig.
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
2331 posts
WA, 2331 posts
27 Feb 2009 11:35am
Watching your last vid just reminded me of this.

The thing that burns the most is when your coming back to the take off point (sandbar) after supporting the rest of the field on your shoulders (i.e. being the last bloke in), the smug buggers like Claude, slowie etc. etc. are coming back out for another quick run "just to fill in time"
firiebob
firiebob
WA
3182 posts
WA, 3182 posts
27 Feb 2009 2:01pm
Ah Elmo I'm onto you mate, you're just messing around at the start cos you like catching and passing, more fun than leading from the front

Great vid again, good to see you looking around
What program are you editing with ?

I saw The Charles Daniels Band perform live at the Perth Entertainment Centre half a life time ago
elmo
elmo
WA
8890 posts
WA, 8890 posts
27 Feb 2009 2:44pm
firiebob said...

Ah Elmo I'm onto you mate, you're just messing around at the start cos you like catching and passing, more fun than leading from the front



Yep I've had a few comments about that, but being a gumby on the front row is not clever when you've got 3-4 people lined up behind you

Slowy,
Had a stack of comments about hand over and have been trying it, unfortunately it has to be a conscious effort to do it.
Staying dry for a gybe still has some major novelty factor which generally gets a internal "woo hoo" If I come out planning the woo hoo is let loose on the world.

Can't sail overhand though as it hurts my wrists and fingers quite badly (sore for days)

I do take on any advise given though and will generally give it a go to see if it works for me

nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
27 Feb 2009 4:06pm
If you're dead set on having an underhand grip on the front hand, then make sure your new front hand is overhand. This is backwards to how most people do it, but it is the way this guy describes it:

http://www.stormchasers.org.za/tips/mikefickgybe.html

In other words, your two front hands (old and new) have to be opposite grip to each other. This stops your elbows knocking together, and is THE tip for improving your rig flips.


To convince yourself, next time you're rigged up at the beach grab the sail as if you're sailing. Now start to flip the sail, and STOP when your new front hand grabs the boom. So you'll have one hand each side of the mast, and your arms will be crossed. Stay that way for a minute or so.

Try this with both hands undergrip, both hands overgrip, and then one each way.

I promise you'll be a convert
elmo
elmo
WA
8890 posts
WA, 8890 posts
27 Feb 2009 4:11pm
My new front hand generally ends up on top... I think

Never belted my elbows together, belted everything else but not elbows

{Edit}
Just had a look at my other vids pretty much all other gybes (bar one) are under to over.

Oh well back to the impact zone this arvy

{Edit 2}

Just read that article goes against all other which I've read but what I've been doing lines up (kinda) with it

3. Move your back hand about a foot farther back on the
boom, switch your front grip to palm-up to greatly aid the
second
THROW you?ll see below, unhook without disturbing
the sail, and set your back foot on the rail behind the
front strap. You are still sheeted in, sailing in a broad
reach with your sail foot near the back of your board.
(Some expert jibers bear
off still hooked in, letting the harness pull them forward
into the correct weight-forward position. The few times
I?ve tried it felt good and worked well, but it has obvious
hazards.)

Over to over doesn't feel natural, but then again staying dry when cornering isn't natural either
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
27 Feb 2009 5:04pm
Whatever works for you, do it!

If you naturally grab the new side in an overgrip then you're better off leaving your old front hand as under.

The only problem with this one (as opposed to starting off overgrip) is that this will bend your shoulders to the outside of the turn as you flip. Harder to keep the power on in this case.

Now next time I see you I'm going to pick your brains on how to go fast, my PB has stood for over a year now and I'm sick of it taunting me!!!
westozwind
westozwind
WA
1418 posts
WA, 1418 posts
4 Mar 2009 10:29am
To all that competed (And watched the video/viewed the photos at:
http://www.windsurfingperth.com.au/index.php/component/content/article/1-latest-news/83-gpsmandurahdrag)
Can I have your .gpx or .sbn GPS file from the day?
e-mail: gadget 'at' windsurfingperth . com . au
(replace 'at' with @ and remove the spaces between the dots)
It would be great to get as many as possible to add to the video
Thanks in advance
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