wetsuits..feedback on Flying objects Flux steamers

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sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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1 Aug 2011 11:55am
http://www.flyingobjects.com.au/pdfs/flux_steamer_ls.pdf
I need a new wetsuit.I freeze in my 1990 one. These are on special ( the superceded ones) .Anyone know what they are like? Ill be sailing in c 11 - 12 degree water with 14 - 16 degree air temp ( maybe 8 degree wind chill).
AUS4
AUS4
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1 Aug 2011 9:16pm
you need a full smooth suit for wind chill, forget double lined unless you are surfing and are in the water the whole time. Probably best to buy from a wetsuit company. Who knows what company made this suit.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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1 Aug 2011 11:11pm
Looks like these ones aren't the way to go as they only have mens sizes.
Windxtasy
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1 Aug 2011 10:52pm
I hear good things about the NPX wetsuits, as in very warm and made for windsurfing.
Palaeosea
Palaeosea
WA
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2 Aug 2011 8:17am
Bought a NPX wetsuit a month back, would have to be the most comfortable wetsuit I have ever owned, and keeps me super warm.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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2 Aug 2011 11:00am
NPX?
Obelix
Obelix
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2 Aug 2011 9:32am
sboardcrazy said...

NPX?


Neil Pride Assassin.
It's a semi dry suit. In Perth the 2/3mm is enough. You may need 3/4mm.
You can find them for around $200.

Very soft, and unrestrictive.
I have a 2/3, and when it wears off, I'll get another one.
Even thinking of getting 3/4 for freediving.

Having said that, I never tried other more expensive suits which may be better than NPX
I can only compare it to a cheap Adrenaline which is way inferior.
DunkO
DunkO
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2 Aug 2011 8:39pm
i just bought one of the 2/2 short sleeve 2010 FO's that were on special. found steamers were too hot and restrictive for sydney most of the year, though when the winter chilly westerlies hit the 3/2 steamer will be back on. have not worn it in the water yet but on land it felt like one of the most comfy wetties i've worn, better than my ebomb but thats 3/2.

in the shop i tried the 2011 3/2 steamer for sizing, it was a great designed windsurfing steamer. foot cuff locks and over sized arms and stretchy.

so far i'm pretty impressed, for the cost especially.

MikeN
MikeN
WA
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2 Aug 2011 7:40pm
Used the flux 2010 for surfing and kiting during winter , air temps roughly the same not sure about our water temp .
I have the 2/3 and it is plenty warm enough . Very comfortable wetty that is very durable . Can definitely recommend it .
DunkO
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2 Aug 2011 9:51pm
where are you sailing that the water temp is 11-12, that is seriously cold. you are on lake maquarie?? coastal water temp rarely as low as 15-16 and is normally above 17-18. not sure if the lake is different, does not feel to be when i've been in it.
stringer
stringer
WA
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2 Aug 2011 8:43pm
Npx with a separate hoodie or beanie is the way to go
Greenroom
Greenroom
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2 Aug 2011 11:25pm
I have an FO FLUX 3/2 steamer.

Correct me if I'm wrong but from what I know Flying Objects wetsuits are made in the same factory with the same materials as the other surf brands.

The thing with the FO suits is that they are shaped to be more windsurf specific.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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3 Aug 2011 12:12am
Any 3x2 steamer would do for NSW winter surely? Smoothie torso would not hurt though.

But I'd choose Flying Objects as they're aussie and support is really good, or West as the warranty is brilliant (as I have raved about previously when mine needed repair)
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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3 Aug 2011 12:53pm
DunkO said...

where are you sailing that the water temp is 11-12, that is seriously cold. you are on lake maquarie?? coastal water temp rarely as low as 15-16 and is normally above 17-18. not sure if the lake is different, does not feel to be when i've been in it.


A Yachtie with a thermometer water reader thingy on his boat told me the lake gets to 11 degrees.I have been meaning to take one down and test it but it s definitely cold! Much colder than the surf.Im pretty sure my existing wetsuit is 3/4mm.How do you measure them? Blokes usually have better metabolisms than women so you wouldn't feel the cold as much.. more muscle / fat..
Dunko you prob don't fall in as often as I do!If I didn't fall in gybing and have to waterstart I wouldn't be anywhere near as cold!
WaynoB
WaynoB
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3 Aug 2011 1:49pm
Had a sail a few weeks ago when the big Westerlies were blowing, at Canton Beach, Tuggerah Lakes. It was honking 30-40 knots, really gusty and lumpy, but the worst part was the water was absolutely bloody freezing. Once you fell in it was hard to last much longer as the cold drained the strength out of you.

Probably the wind chill had something to do with this, but sailed a few days later at the beach and even though still cold, it was definitely warmer that the lake. Guess being just inland and not having much ocean influence affects the water temp there.

My wetsuit is an old Peak steamer 2/3. Wore 3mm booties, high ankle type and a Gath helmet but once you fell in (which was inevitable) you froze. Almost had no feeling in the hands by the end.

Don't think any wet suit would have stopped the cold that day. Probably gloves would have helped.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
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3 Aug 2011 3:02pm
Mark _australia said...

Any 3x2 steamer would do for NSW winter surely? Smoothie torso would not hurt though.

But I'd choose Flying Objects as they're aussie and support is really good, or West as the warranty is brilliant (as I have raved about previously when mine needed repair)


Well I have to disagree. I had a 3x2 full length wetusit from the company you raved about. It failed to keep me very warm in winter windsurfing. When in the water the suit failed to keep water tight.

This winter I bought a NP 4x3 full length wetsuit and it is very good. It doesn't let in water and feels very flexible. I've used it a few times and found it keeps me very warm.

It does get quite cold in NSW during winter. When the westerlies are blowing the wind is coming straight off the mountains which are sometimes snow covered. The inland areas of NSW get well below freezing during winter and the westerlies bring that cold to the coast.



sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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3 Aug 2011 5:48pm
wbailey said...

Had a sail a few weeks ago when the big Westerlies were blowing, at Canton Beach, Tuggerah Lakes. It was honking 30-40 knots, really gusty and lumpy, but the worst part was the water was absolutely bloody freezing. Once you fell in it was hard to last much longer as the cold drained the strength out of you.

Probably the wind chill had something to do with this, but sailed a few days later at the beach and even though still cold, it was definitely warmer that the lake. Guess being just inland and not having much ocean influence affects the water temp there.

My wetsuit is an old Peak steamer 2/3. Wore 3mm booties, high ankle type and a Gath helmet but once you fell in (which was inevitable) you froze. Almost had no feeling in the hands by the end.

Don't think any wet suit would have stopped the cold that day. Probably gloves would have helped.


Thanks. I knew it wasn't me.. Yep b freezing!
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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3 Aug 2011 5:49pm
Mobydisc said...

Mark _australia said...

Any 3x2 steamer would do for NSW winter surely? Smoothie torso would not hurt though.

But I'd choose Flying Objects as they're aussie and support is really good, or West as the warranty is brilliant (as I have raved about previously when mine needed repair)


Well I have to disagree. I had a 3x2 full length wetusit from the company you raved about. It failed to keep me very warm in winter windsurfing. When in the water the suit failed to keep water tight.

This winter I bought a NP 4x3 full length wetsuit and it is very good. It doesn't let in water and feels very flexible. I've used it a few times and found it keeps me very warm.

It does get quite cold in NSW during winter. When the westerlies are blowing the wind is coming straight off the mountains which are sometimes snow covered. The inland areas of NSW get well below freezing during winter and the westerlies bring that cold to the coast.






Inland lakes don't get the nice warm ocean currents to modify the temp..
BenKirk
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3 Aug 2011 5:50pm
sboardcrazy said...

DunkO said...

where are you sailing that the water temp is 11-12, that is seriously cold. you are on lake maquarie?? coastal water temp rarely as low as 15-16 and is normally above 17-18. not sure if the lake is different, does not feel to be when i've been in it.


A Yachtie with a thermometer water reader thingy on his boat told me the lake gets to 11 degrees.I have been meaning to take one down and test it but it s definitely cold! Much colder than the surf.Im pretty sure my existing wetsuit is 3/4mm.How do you measure them? Blokes usually have better metabolisms than women so you wouldn't feel the cold as much.. more muscle / fat..
Dunko you prob don't fall in as often as I do!If I didn't fall in gybing and have to waterstart I wouldn't be anywhere near as cold!


Dunko also has a penchant for sailing "skins" at every opportunity so don't take what he says too seriously ;-) I have used my RipCurl Windseries 6,5,4mm 100% smoothskin steamer this winter. Nice and warm!
BarryFawkes
BarryFawkes
NSW
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3 Aug 2011 5:54pm
Sue google shark skin they are made at beresfield the dive shop at wickam stocks them I am on my third year with mine have a full suit and a sleevles vest ring the shop before going to make sure they have your size they are better than anything iv tried for sailing
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
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3 Aug 2011 5:57pm
Obelix said...

sboardcrazy said...

NPX?


Neil Pride Assassin.
It's a semi dry suit. In Perth the 2/3mm is enough. You may need 3/4mm.
You can find them for around $200.

Very soft, and unrestrictive.
I have a 2/3, and when it wears off, I'll get another one.
Even thinking of getting 3/4 for freediving.

Having said that, I never tried other more expensive suits which may be better than NPX
I can only compare it to a cheap Adrenaline which is way inferior.


I looked them up.. They are just a vest?
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
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3 Aug 2011 6:04pm
I found this on a wetsuit website..This is what I want to read!
http://www.wetsuitmegastore.com/wetsuit/6-wetsuit-temperature-guide-and-chart.html
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
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3 Aug 2011 6:20pm
BarryFawkes said...

Sue google shark skin they are made at beresfield the dive shop at wickam stocks them I am on my third year with mine have a full suit and a sleevles vest ring the shop before going to make sure they have your size they are better than anything iv tried for sailing


Do they keep you warm on the lake at this time of year?Thanks.They do dive wetsuits..Are they flexible enough? One of the problems I have at the moment is I feel so restricted by all the layers I get tired just standing netherless sailing! My shoulders are pulled in at the front too.
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
4019 posts
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3 Aug 2011 4:30pm
sboardcrazy said...

Obelix said...

sboardcrazy said...

NPX?


Neil Pride Assassin.
It's a semi dry suit. In Perth the 2/3mm is enough. You may need 3/4mm.
You can find them for around $200.

Very soft, and unrestrictive.
I have a 2/3, and when it wears off, I'll get another one.
Even thinking of getting 3/4 for freediving.

Having said that, I never tried other more expensive suits which may be better than NPX
I can only compare it to a cheap Adrenaline which is way inferior.


I looked them up.. They are just a vest?


No, full suits.
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
4019 posts
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3 Aug 2011 4:36pm
sboardcrazy said...

BarryFawkes said...

Sue google shark skin they are made at beresfield the dive shop at wickam stocks them I am on my third year with mine have a full suit and a sleevles vest ring the shop before going to make sure they have your size they are better than anything iv tried for sailing


Do they keep you warm on the lake at this time of year?Thanks.They do dive wetsuits..Are they flexible enough? One of the problems I have at the moment is I feel so restricted by all the layers I get tired just standing netherless sailing! My shoulders are pulled in at the front too.

Sue I know what you are saying. It is taking me longer to dress up than to rig up atm, and then I feel bulked up and clumsy but at least I am keeping warm.
Polypro long sleeve rashie, 2/3 steamer, rainjacket, flotation vest, split toe booties, fingerless sailing gloves. Every bit has helped. Now I only get cold when I stop.
If I was buying another steamer I'd go for a 4/3 smoothskin steamer, then I may be able to dispense with some of the layers.
Obelix
Obelix
WA
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3 Aug 2011 6:47pm
sboardcrazy said...

Obelix said...

sboardcrazy said...

NPX?


Neil Pride Assassin.
It's a semi dry suit. In Perth the 2/3mm is enough. You may need 3/4mm.
You can find them for around $200.

Very soft, and unrestrictive.
I have a 2/3, and when it wears off, I'll get another one.
Even thinking of getting 3/4 for freediving.

Having said that, I never tried other more expensive suits which may be better than NPX
I can only compare it to a cheap Adrenaline which is way inferior.


I looked them up.. They are just a vest?


Here is the link to the local store:

www.windsurfingperth.com.au/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=1422&category_id=52&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=121

I use 3/2 in Perth these days. It's not cold.
I also have a 2/3mm cheap Adrenaline wet suit which way inferior in every sense.
Could I use 3/4 these days? Probably on the river, but 2/3 is fine.
The sea temperature seems higher these days so 2/3 is fine.

BTW, I also used a rashie under 2/3 NPX and it was colder than not using a rashie.
I'm sure the other good brands will be as good. (I.E. Flying Objects).
You should definitelly try before you buy.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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3 Aug 2011 9:18pm
Thanks. I'm going for a least a 3/4 maybe 4/5mm.No way a 2/3mm would be adequate for me with that water.Doesn't look like they do a 3/4 etc..
AUS4
AUS4
NSW
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3 Aug 2011 10:54pm
4/3 will be more than enough, but you must get a smooth skin not double lined. Even if you get a 6mm double lined suit you will still be cold unless you are fully submerged the whole time. Double lined is for surfing not windsurfing. You need a smoothy to prevent wind chill.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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4 Aug 2011 11:43am
Looking at a 5/4/3 Neil Pryde Serene at the moment..
AUS4
AUS4
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4 Aug 2011 12:31pm
sboardcrazy said...

Looking at a 5/4/3 Neil Pryde Serene at the moment..


At least your chest and back will be warm.

Try
WNPWD6825
PRYDE 4/3 LADIES SEMIDRY E1 WINDSURFING 3000 SERIES

IF YOU WANT TO BE WARM ALL OVER !!!

SMOOTH !!!!
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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4 Aug 2011 3:39pm
I've bought the 5 4 3 serene..cant wait to try it out.. never thought Id want cold water..LOL's
http://www.npxwetsuits.com/index.php?option=com_npxproducts&view=detail&id=103&Itemid=85
Won't look as good as that on me unfortunately..
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