jp australia or fanatic? need opinions!

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Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
4 Jan 2010 11:04pm
^ but you have the pro edition.

most board manufacturers sell boards in a range of construction and vary the construction depending on sailor ability level.

i'm not saying one board is better or worse than the other, just pointing out there are differences.
jh2703
jh2703
NSW
1225 posts
NSW, 1225 posts
5 Jan 2010 12:53am
Gestalt, My Fanatics are the team editions, Similar in construction to the JP Pro editon and I have not yet managed to crunch the nose. Maybe I've just been lucky or unlucky depending on how you look at it. Anyway both are great boards, which ever you choose you'll be happy.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
4 Jan 2010 11:59pm
that's handy to know, i thought that all pro/team boards were built light. appears that's not the case.
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
5 Jan 2010 9:15am
carvegybe88 said...

by the way easty i live on a far right next to pit water (the water behind 7 mile beach) and it's tarrific, also been spending most of my summer holidays at my shack at dodges ferry how bout you and by the way where do most of the windsurfers hang out not really many of them around dodges


I take it that's a farm next to pit water? Must be near 5 mile beach or around there somewhere? That would be a great spot for learning, isn't it shallow there over a huge area? This may be why you've never come across the need to waterstart?
Most sailors hang out at various places on South Arm - for a NW to SW wind, it's Ralph's Bay from the Doran's Road boatramp. For seabreezes it's either Pipeclay Lagoon at Cremorne (great learners spot also)(launch from down Honeywood Rd) or the main beaches at Cremorne or Clifton. Lauderdale beach is ok for N to E.
Check out
http://windsurfingtas.org/dragonfly/


carvegybe88
carvegybe88
TAS
19 posts
TAS, 19 posts
5 Jan 2010 9:24am
easty said...

carvegybe88 said...

by the way easty i live on a far right next to pit water (the water behind 7 mile beach) and it's tarrific, also been spending most of my summer holidays at my shack at dodges ferry how bout you and by the way where do most of the windsurfers hang out not really many of them around dodges


I take it that's a farm next to pit water? Must be near 5 mile beach or around there somewhere? That would be a great spot for learning, isn't it shallow there over a huge area? This may be why you've never come across the need to waterstart?
Most sailors hang out at various places on South Arm - for a NW to SW wind, it's Ralph's Bay from the Doran's Road boatramp. For seabreezes it's either Pipeclay Lagoon at Cremorne (great learners spot also)(launch from down Honeywood Rd) or the main beaches at Cremorne or Clifton. Lauderdale beach is ok for N to E.
Check out
http://windsurfingtas.org/dragonfly/

yeah the farms more near cambridge, but i have to wait for the tides to get some good sailing yeah it's all pritty shallow and most of the time i can touch the bottom, but it still gets some decente breezes. are there many people who actually do it in tassie or are there only a few on any given day

easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
5 Jan 2010 9:58am
carvegybe88 said...
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yeah the farms more near cambridge, but i have to wait for the tides to get some good sailing yeah it's all pritty shallow and most of the time i can touch the bottom, but it still gets some decente breezes. are there many people who actually do it in tassie or are there only a few on any given day


Yeah quite a few, but rare to get more than 10 in the same spot at the same time. Some stick to surf sailing, some hunt flat water for speed, but if you check out those spots I mentioned (for those wind directions) you'll meet others, and don't be afraid to introduce yourself and talk about gear / technique. I suppose at 15 you are limited to where and when your parents can taxi you around. Convince them that you are hooked on a healthy outdoor physical activity rather than drugs, and that to further your addiction and make it last through your vulnerable teenage years you must explore new sailing areas for different wind directions.

carvegybe88
carvegybe88
TAS
19 posts
TAS, 19 posts
5 Jan 2010 11:27am
easty said...

carvegybe88 said...
[br
yeah the farms more near cambridge, but i have to wait for the tides to get some good sailing yeah it's all pritty shallow and most of the time i can touch the bottom, but it still gets some decente breezes. are there many people who actually do it in tassie or are there only a few on any given day


Yeah quite a few, but rare to get more than 10 in the same spot at the same time. Some stick to surf sailing, some hunt flat water for speed, but if you check out those spots I mentioned (for those wind directions) you'll meet others, and don't be afraid to introduce yourself and talk about gear / technique. I suppose at 15 you are limited to where and when your parents can taxi you around. Convince them that you are hooked on a healthy outdoor physical activity rather than drugs, and that to further your addiction and make it last through your vulnerable teenage years you must explore new sailing areas for different wind directions.


i like your style

carvegybe88
carvegybe88
TAS
19 posts
TAS, 19 posts
5 Jan 2010 11:31am
[ok narrowed it down to 4 boards 2009 jp xcite ride FWS, 2009 fanatic hawk, 2010 fanatic shark, 2009 fanatic eagle or 2010 jp funride. which one is best ] by the way easty where do you get your boards from in tassie
Leman
Leman
VIC
672 posts
VIC, 672 posts
5 Jan 2010 12:05pm
carvegybe88 said...

it seems as though everyone thinks i'll be putting dings in my board, i haven't put one in my current board yet, so are the new boards more fragile or am i heading towards bigger falls


Yeah unfortunately it is not 'if' but 'when' you damage your new board. The old longboards are so tough you could drop them off the roof and they would come out fine. The new boards are very susceptable to dings with every bump (more like surfboards) because the materials and how they are made make them both super light but also quite fragile. The most common damage when starting out is when you're hooked into your harness and you get catapulted, the force of the wind in the sail combined with your weight create an enormous impact between the mast and nose of the board. I even dinged my board by lightly hitting a step as I was carrying it. I completely broke the nose clean off my old board with a very nasty catapult in 30knots. More commonly you will crush it just enough to allow water to find its way into your board, adding weight to it and lowering performance.

There are preventative methods but nothing is 100%. Expert windsurfers still trash their boards.

A new board sounds extremely exciting but honestly you won't notice any difference in performance between one 6 years old and the most recent release at your level, it will just look very pretty at the beginning and show the damage more easily.

On another note just like someone else said, start learning your 'beach start' and progress to a 'water start' asap on your current gear. Extremely handy skill to learn for dealing with higher winds.
Scully
Scully
WA
412 posts
WA, 412 posts
5 Jan 2010 9:52am
Btw if your thinking that its soo hard to get a cheaper 2nd hand board in tasmania.

Freight from Victoria to Tasmania is what like $150 for a board, so you can look through Classified adds in vic and still save a ****load from buying a brand new board.
mclovin
mclovin
SA
724 posts
SA, 724 posts
5 Jan 2010 12:33pm
dude dont get a new board. unless your super rich and can buy a new one whenever you want. save the coin, get some more sails and a skinny mast. ive been sailing for ages and still dont buy new boards. i just damage them too quick and thats not from catapulting, just ucking around in waves or freestyle i regularly crunch my boards. get one that you dont have to worry about and youll improve faster than if you have one your scared to break
buzzy
buzzy
TAS
2433 posts
TAS, 2433 posts
5 Jan 2010 1:43pm
carvegybe88 said...

[ok narrowed it down to 4 boards 2009 jp xcite ride FWS, 2009 fanatic hawk, 2010 fanatic shark, 2009 fanatic eagle or 2010 jp funride. which one is best ] by the way easty where do you get your boards from in tassie


Hi there carvegybe88. As you are probably aware we dont have any shops that stock sailing gear in the south of the state. However, the best person to talk to is Damien at Jay Sails, he lives in Lauderdale and supplies most of the gear in this part of the state. He stocks a few bare essentials but can get you anything you want. Give him a call he will help you out 0409854754.
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
5 Jan 2010 1:50pm
carvegybe88 said...

by the way easty where do you get your boards from in tassie


Just sent you a PM - what Buzzy just said plus some more info.
carvegybe88
carvegybe88
TAS
19 posts
TAS, 19 posts
5 Jan 2010 2:02pm
sick thanks everyone for the info. yeah i'm dealing with damien at the moment, he's a good as bloke. i kinda have to get a board that's more modern because i'm on a tenkate that's around 3 meters long and weighs 20kg which limits what i can do. SO i thought i'd get a new one and then the resale value would be a lot higher[ :D] all my gear is from the 80's apart from my sail which is 90's and harness which is new, but cheers anyway. in regards to second hand from vic, i worry that it's probably not a good option to buy a second hand board that i haven't seen
mclovin
mclovin
SA
724 posts
SA, 724 posts
5 Jan 2010 3:38pm
you could geta full set up of 2nd hand gear for the same price as a new board. and it would be a far better option. you probably will have killed the resale value of a new board the first day you take it out and damage it
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
5 Jan 2010 4:35pm
jh2703 said...

As much as I talked up the Fanatics I have a 120L JP Xcite ride Pro edition which I got for my third board. I use this board as my every day board that I use on my local fresh water lake. It's a very good board, just plug and play. They are not the best boards to gybe with you really have to be firm with it but it jumps well, cuts through chop like it's not even there and you can get some good speed out of them 30 knots no problem and that's with the 3 strap wave setup, I'm yet to put the out bound straps on to see what she can really do. The only problems with JP boards is they have a very soft nose, my board has had more nose jobs than Paris Hilton. I don't catapult much anymore but when I do it results in another nose repair. When I head to the coast I go to my Fanatics, fast boards, super ride and strong. I don't think my JP would make it through to many botched wave rides. Even though I've ordered yet another JP, I'm going to switch back to fanatics next season..Good boards and great value for money.

But the JP boards are nice

See my post JP 120 excite for sale in this forum..

ginger pom
ginger pom
VIC
1746 posts
VIC, 1746 posts
5 Jan 2010 5:47pm
sboardcrazy said...

Scully said...

+1
Sorry to hijack this thread but Im just about to get a new board & since Ive been trying the guy cribb more upright sailing style I tend to catapult a bit & Im paranoid about destroying the thing..how do you avoid damage cheaply.. ( ok smartasses dont say dont catapult..)




Don't let go until the rig is in the water!

If you hold onto the rig, then it tends to go to leeward

sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
5 Jan 2010 7:15pm
ginger pom said...

sboardcrazy said...

Scully said...

+1
Sorry to hijack this thread but Im just about to get a new board & since Ive been trying the guy cribb more upright sailing style I tend to catapult a bit & Im paranoid about destroying the thing..how do you avoid damage cheaply.. ( ok smartasses dont say dont catapult..)




Don't let go until the rig is in the water!
I dont..( figure its easier on my neck that way too) does that stop it hitting the nose? I asked the dealer with the Tabou & he said because of their length it shouldnt be an issue..

If you hold onto the rig, then it tends to go to leeward




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