bye bye Gaastra

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stehsegler
stehsegler
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3 Mar 2014 10:02am
Brien said...
I agree that the new logo compared to the old is not very good but to think there is any relevance between a logo and sail design is pretty unrealistic.


Well... that's my point. Great companies think through their entire business strategy. It's starts with great products and it ends with the image they portrait to the outside world.

Yes, they might do great sails but if they cut corners (assuming they did with their new logo) with their branding it makes you wonder where else they do the same.
HF
HF
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HF HF
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3 Mar 2014 10:05am
Reason for change is all a copyright issue from what I heard, Gaastra clothing own the copyright so look's like they had no option but I would've thought they could come up with something better.
sausage
sausage
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3 Mar 2014 12:22pm
HF said..

Reason for change is all a copyright issue from what I heard, Gaastra clothing own the copyright so look's like they had no option but I would've thought they could come up with something better.



Has the windsurfing business been severed from the main arm of Gaastra Int? That would make sense re: copyright
HF
HF
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HF HF
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3 Mar 2014 10:36am
No idea but I would assume so, very strong rumour that they could'nt use the logo and name anymore. Think it was more of a case of they could ue the name but usage was too expensive.
PhilSWR
PhilSWR
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3 Mar 2014 2:27pm
They should put out a global internet challenge for logo design ideas. Best one wins a full quiver of sails. Surely that's a win, win for Gaastra?
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
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3 Mar 2014 2:52pm
Its a real shame Gaastra Sails either has to cough up some cash to use the Gaastra logo or change names and have a new logo. I don't know the fashion scene in Europe however its pretty unlikely the Gaastra clothing brand would be half as big as what it is today without the exposure Gaastra sails gave Gaastra clothing over the last 35 years or more through windsurfing, especially considering how big windsurfing is in Europe.


Perhaps the Gaastra clothing brand will suffer as a result of this short sighted and greedy decision.



stehsegler
stehsegler
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3 Mar 2014 1:09pm
PhilSWR said..

They should put out a global internet challenge for logo design ideas. Best one wins a full quiver of sails. Surely that's a win, win for Gaastra?


I don't think a good brand company works for just a quiver of sails.
Ride
Ride
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3 Mar 2014 1:47pm
stehsegler said...
PhilSWR said..

They should put out a global internet challenge for logo design ideas. Best one wins a full quiver of sails. Surely that's a win, win for Gaastra?


I don't think a good brand company works for just a quiver of sails.


stehsegler, given your contribution to this discussion maybe you could offer
your services
albers
albers
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3 Mar 2014 7:49pm
Maybe they could have a logo unique to each country they distribute sails to. Here's a start.






choco
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3 Mar 2014 8:13pm
HF said..

Reason for change is all a copyright issue from what I heard, Gaastra clothing own the copyright so look's like they had no option but I would've thought they could come up with something better.


Faastra
Sputnik11
Sputnik11
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3 Mar 2014 9:05pm




Ride
Ride
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3 Mar 2014 6:20pm
Nice work Sputnik
Sputnik11
Sputnik11
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3 Mar 2014 9:48pm
or a variation on the castle (looks like the clothing company have a mortgage on that)





Hooksey
Hooksey
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3 Mar 2014 7:07pm
Rebranding existing brands by way of changing the logo and behind the scene stuff such as marketing strategies, go-to-market strategies, overall value chain etc is often tax driven as this will allow the company to 'place' brand ownership in low tax jurisdictions and charge a hefty royalty for the use of the brand / marketing management fees or the like...

This is not uncommon for multinationals (google, many banks have done this, pharamCeuticals etc) and many multinational consider it vital to maximise tax 'opportunities' within the bounds of local and international laws... At the end of the day they are just looking to maximise shareholder return / return on investment.

BEPS, transfer pricing, profit shifting, taking the piss.. It's referred to as a lot of different things and with aging populations it will be one if the most important areas of policy in the years to come for all countries around the world.

I'm not saying this is the case with GA and there there might be other reasons for the rebrand (see Cols post above)..


Magnus8
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3 Mar 2014 10:49pm





Neil might buy GA....
AUS4
AUS4
NSW
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4 Mar 2014 8:31am
North kites changed their logo because they no longer wanted to pay royalties to North Sails.
seanhogan
seanhogan
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21 Mar 2014 7:50am
saw this in a 2014 Japanese windsurf catalogue :

ad has the old logo but sails have the new one.....




da vecta
da vecta
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21 Mar 2014 10:12am
How can I get me some...?




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