Easiest jiber in my quiver is the '01 Naish Freeride 85 liter. Highest percentage of full planing out jibes [maybe 70%], and close to 98% makes out of 300 attempts. I do botch a few with any board.
I ride 85 liter boards maybe 60 days a season for over 35 years.

Macroscien said..

sailquik said..

Ian K said..
So what do you do after making steady improvement, over more decades than you'd like to admit to, you come to the realisation that in the last 5 years you've somehow stopped getting any better?

The closer you get to perfection, the harder it is to improve. Just do it more often and smile.

I just LOVE gybing. Apart from going really FAST on a broad reach, it IS the best thing in windsurfing!

BTW.
\What I found very challenging is getting down wind after gybe, not making complete 180 degree turn. Somehow most of the gybes turns I do are over done and I need then correct down wind later on.Most scary part is possibly mental block, to quickly flip sail and take full wind power into sail. After we clear foot work here , any tips regarding flipping sail will be appreciated.Timing, position etcI could observe that good gybers tends to power their sails during the gybe cycle as much as possible.

It's a common tendency to have your body weight too far back during a gybe. Once you release the back hand there is then a lot of weight on the back rail and you carve even harder, the nose comes up and you end up pointing too high, as well as washing off a lot of speed.
I've made good alpha gains by focusing on weight further forward, like a good ski turn, lead with the body weight into the fall line. Visually place your back foot slightly further forward than you usually would, the board will follow.
Being further forward I had to make a modification when the power comes on in the new tack. I now crouch down so I am more stable and can drive with the legs very early (instead of sheeting and leaning back which would again stall the board and over carve the turn).
It's a never ending journey seeking gybing perfection, but what a great journey it is!!!

Jetlag said..

Macroscien said..

sailquik said..

Ian K said..
So what do you do after making steady improvement, over more decades than you'd like to admit to, you come to the realisation that in the last 5 years you've somehow stopped getting any better?

The closer you get to perfection, the harder it is to improve. Just do it more often and smile.

I just LOVE gybing. Apart from going really FAST on a broad reach, it IS the best thing in windsurfing!

BTW.
\What I found very challenging is getting down wind after gybe, not making complete 180 degree turn. Somehow most of the gybes turns I do are over done and I need then correct down wind later on.Most scary part is possibly mental block, to quickly flip sail and take full wind power into sail. After we clear foot work here , any tips regarding flipping sail will be appreciated.Timing, position etcI could observe that good gybers tends to power their sails during the gybe cycle as much as possible.

It's a common tendency to have your body weight too far back during a gybe. Once you release the back hand there is then a lot of weight on the back rail and you carve even harder, the nose comes up and you end up pointing too high, as well as washing off a lot of speed.
I've made good alpha gains by focusing on weight further forward, like a good ski turn, lead with the body weight into the fall line. Visually place your back foot slightly further forward than you usually would, the board will follow.
Being further forward I had to make a modification when the power comes on in the new tack. I now crouch down so I am more stable and can drive with the legs very early (instead of sheeting and leaning back which would again stall the board and over carve the turn).
It's a never ending journey seeking gybing perfection, but what a great journey it is!!!

true, true
I will try
till get mine first 25ktn alpha
Lest suppose that our plan is to make 25 ktn alpha.Lets assume that sailor is already quite skilled and efficient.
What will be practically minimum entry speed to make possible alpha 25?
If somebody running 30 kn constant on entry leg, will be able to finish with 25 average?
or we need rather higher speed like 32 or 35? I could see that good gybers keep/maintained their speed above 15 ktn at the lowest point during the gybe.

Interesting will be also to see who was able to sustain the highest speed during the gybe - something like 20 ( minimum on alpha graph) ?

I find this talk of gybing refreshing it proves to be such an ellusive technique for many and many a good sailors techniques come undone in differing conditions. Still the same as it was 22 years ago, 22 yrs of gear advancment has not fixed the conundrum that is gybing for many.

What works for one will not necessarily work for another. Its a journey of self discovery

Macroscien said..
true, true
I will try
till get mine first 25ktn alpha
Lest suppose that our plan is to make 25 ktn alpha.Lets assume that sailor is already quite skilled and efficient.
What will be practically minimum entry speed to make possible alpha 25?
If somebody running 30 kn constant on entry leg, will be able to finish with 25 average?
or we need rather higher speed like 32 or 35? I could see that good gybers keep/maintained their speed above 15 ktn at the lowest point during the gybe.

Interesting will be also to see who was able to sustain the highest speed during the gybe - something like 20 ( minimum on alpha graph) ?

Good question Macro. :-)

I went back and had a look at the speed graphs for some of my 25 knots Alphas from LG this year and I seem to be running high 20's on the in-run, peaking at 30 on the turn-in, min speed around 12-13 knots, and getting back to high 20's at the end of the out-run.

I made some screen grabs of them and will make a new topic to post them. I recon it could be quite interesting fto see other peoples graphs and maybe share some tips about them.

If you have the wrong technique, it doesn't really matter what gear you have, although some gear is more forgiving of bad technique than others. Freerace boards like the Fox, F-race etc are very good to gybe. Modern slalom boards are also very good.

Robbie Naish didn't need boom to boom to do ok in a few pro races.

As it's raining too much to go windsurfing today, I made a new video and there is a small review about the Waterspeed app in the end. Have a nice weekend, Kasper

John340 said..
If you have the wrong technique, it doesn't really matter what gear you have, although some gear is more forgiving of bad technique than others. Freerace boards like the Fox, F-race etc are very good to gybe. Modern slalom boards are also very good.

Yep, like the saying goes: "I can teach it to you, but I can't learn it for you"

AV Rocker line

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