Sail/board designers

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PKenny
PKenny
SA
242 posts
SA, 242 posts
12 Sep 2018 9:23pm
Peter Ross OES
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
12 Sep 2018 8:12pm
Geoff Hillwood - Wave Scalpel
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
12 Sep 2018 8:48pm
Bondalucci said..
Bob Margets -Mad Dog
Arthur Brett -Trigger Bros


Good call on Bob Margets. I used to sail with him, George Greenough and all the other Byron / Lennox crew in the mid 90's.
George was on his epoxy / EPS spoon boards that weighed next to nothing. He had super light , small rigs with wide luff sleeves and skinny masts which was pretty radical at the time.
Bob was shaping some sweet looking wave boards with single concave all the way through, which was also a pretty new concept then.
At that time I was working at Multi Fin ,making the Larry Tuttle fins. I think my official job title then was "sanding bitch"
I was starting to shape a few more boards around this time, some were ok and some were pretty terrible!
Fun times!
****, I feel old now :(
fpw9082
fpw9082
QLD
173 posts
QLD, 173 posts
12 Sep 2018 11:23pm
Mark _australia said..
Tiesda You?


And really people, come on. ................. MWSails




I did not read all topic about MWsails,because I dont have time and nerves to read all this ****s at 500 posts..Especailly I hate long posts.

Can you tell me why lot of members of this forum hate this man so much?

(english is not my mother tongue,maybe I just dont understand Australian humor)
RichardG
RichardG
WA
3761 posts
WA, 3761 posts
12 Sep 2018 9:47pm
hoop said..



Bondalucci said..
Bob Margets -Mad Dog
Arthur Brett -Trigger Bros





Good call on Bob Margets. I used to sail with him, George Greenough and all the other Byron / Lennox crew in the mid 90's.
George was on his epoxy / EPS spoon boards that weighed next to nothing. He had super light , small rigs with wide luff sleeves and skinny masts which was pretty radical at the time.
Bob was shaping some sweet looking wave boards with single concave all the way through, which was also a pretty new concept then.
At that time I was working at Multi Fin ,making the Larry Tuttle fins. I think my official job title then was "sanding bitch"
I was starting to shape a few more boards around this time, some were ok and some were pretty terrible!
Fun times!
****, I feel old now :(




Brilliant Hoop. Great adventure and a life rich in windsurfing history, so far.
RichardG
RichardG
WA
3761 posts
WA, 3761 posts
12 Sep 2018 9:52pm
Highwinds, Cottesloe
(unknown shaper-maybe Ken Eichenberg and Gill Stubbs)

Blaxell, Scarborough
(shaped by Darryl Wilkes)

Murray Smith/Bombora/HiTech WA
(shaped by Adan Nicolson)

Precision Equip, Margaret River
(shaped by Tom Hoye)
Paducah
Paducah
2833 posts
2833 posts
12 Sep 2018 10:30pm
TurnBackTime said..


Mark _australia said..
Tiesda You?


And really people, come on. ................. MWSails






I did not read all topic about MWsails,because I dont have time and nerves to read all this ****s at 500 posts..Especailly I hate long posts.

Can you tell me why lot of members of this forum hate this man so much?

(english is not my mother tongue,maybe I just dont understand Australian humor)



NIS: Narcissistic inventor syndrome. "All others before me were idiots and only I know the true path. My objective testing consists of some GoPro footage of blasting past some rec/freeride sailors. I can't be chuffed to use GPS, competition or experienced windsurfers for feedback." Also see frp/xyz mentioned above.

You are wise not to wade through those pages.

Back to the topic at hand - being from a different hemisphere, I appreciate getting to know unfamiliar names and their contributions.
fpw9082
fpw9082
QLD
173 posts
QLD, 173 posts
13 Sep 2018 3:39am
This is not innovation,first wing sail was before almost 30 years.All attemts never had much succes,because wing is unsailable,too rigid ,too small twist etc.
OESaustralia
OESaustralia
SA
300 posts
SA, 300 posts
13 Sep 2018 6:16am
Sean Ordonez / S O S
Keith Teboul/ Quatro
Bill Foote/ Hi Tech
Craig Masonville / Hi tech
Dave Mal /Sailboards Maui
Jimmy Lewis / Jimmy Lewis
joe windsurf
joe windsurf
1482 posts
1482 posts
13 Sep 2018 4:48am
Jeff Brown/JBD of the Ice Ratz - Jeff Brown Design
makes his own boards and sails ...

Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
13 Sep 2018 4:34pm
Still missing one verrrry influential Aussie....
ratz
ratz
WA
481 posts
WA, 481 posts
13 Sep 2018 5:30pm
phil McGain ?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
13 Sep 2018 5:48pm
^^ actually -yes a lot to do with racing sail design.

nah, thinking waveboards though
TGale
TGale
TAS
301 posts
TAS, 301 posts
13 Sep 2018 8:11pm
Peter Nitschke / NXS
Subsonic
Subsonic
WA
3413 posts
WA, 3413 posts
13 Sep 2018 6:48pm
Mark _australia said..
^^ actually -yes a lot to do with racing sail design.

nah, thinking waveboards though



Did JP actually ever do board design/shaping?

(One way or the other, Im probably making myself look like a complete idiot here.... i don't actually know the answer.)
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
13 Sep 2018 9:48pm
Pete Cochran - Wind Action
JV (?) - JV sails.
Bruce Peterson - Sailworks
John340
John340
QLD
3410 posts
QLD, 3410 posts
13 Sep 2018 9:51pm
kato said..
Chris Lockwood- Mistral
James Dinnis- Carbon Art
AMAC- Wild Winds/ Ka Sails



Chris Lockwood - Tribal
windsufering
windsufering
VIC
1124 posts
VIC, 1124 posts
13 Sep 2018 9:51pm
Jim French
NelsonFoils
NelsonFoils
190 posts
190 posts
13 Sep 2018 8:35pm
Rob Mulder Roberts




Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
13 Sep 2018 8:52pm
Subsonic said..

Mark _australia said..
^^ actually -yes a lot to do with racing sail design.

nah, thinking waveboards though




Did JP actually ever do board design/shaping?

(One way or the other, Im probably making myself look like a complete idiot here.... i don't actually know the answer.)


You are close- verrrry


Mike Di Sciascio shaping Strapper, and JP riding them
I still recall a wavesailing instructional video in the mid 1990's saying how influential his wave boards were and how now "everyone is on a Mike Di Sciascio/JP rocker line"


That seriously has to be the nucleus of modern waveboard design
alvadave
alvadave
QLD
83 posts
QLD, 83 posts
14 Sep 2018 5:42pm
My old mate Darrell " Rooster " Dell - Force Four
Phil McGain won a big pro race at the gorge on one of his boards. Glenn Barratt's long standing Australian womens speed sailing record was on a rooster shape. His hull bottomed slalom boards were a work of art.

Dan Engdahl - Wind FX / Viteese
Mike Maguire - Mike Maguire Custom Sailboards/ Hot Buttered?/ Jet




ka43
ka43
NSW
3101 posts
NSW, 3101 posts
14 Sep 2018 6:09pm
Bruce Heggie, Ulladulla.
John Hall, master shaper in pommy land and then Hybrid in Sydney.
Kai Hopf, Vortex and now North Sails.
RichardG
RichardG
WA
3761 posts
WA, 3761 posts
14 Sep 2018 4:59pm
Bombora. Mark Paul invented the shortboard. See in circa 1980, the wide board ( very short about 6'5" behind him).


Bombora

Ken Winner so many innovations and designs:

1997 Designed, raced and promoted the first modern wide, short boards, precursors of the current Formula boards.
1995 Developed and patented the anti-ventilation skirt, a device that improves the speed of shortboards in light to moderate winds.
1990 Together with brother Karl Winner, developed an automated, computerized speed trap for windsurfers.
1986 With Larry Tuttle developed "pointer" fins, the first spinout-resistant, highly efficient racing fins. This basic design won the pro worlds in 1986 through 1989.
1985 With Larry Tuttle developed the Tuttle box, fin box of choice among racers.
1981 Built some of the first "sinker" wave boards and was one of the first to sail them at Hookipa, the sport's premier surf-sailing venue.[note some, not the first- that is because Mark Paul did that....at least some say he did anyway..!]
1981 Ken Winner developed the adjustable mast track.
1980 Co-authored a popular windsurfing how-to book.
1980 Developed the carving jibe, a maneuver currently used by all intermediate and advanced windsurfers.
1979 Developed the adjustable boom with Larry Stanley.

Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
3570 posts
NSW, 3570 posts
14 Sep 2018 8:18pm
alvadave said..






I not only remember that article, I have a copy of that mag from very close to that time still around. Those were the days when you waved at someone else with a windsurfer on their roof, only a year or two before they were everywhere.
olskool
olskool
QLD
2462 posts
QLD, 2462 posts
15 Sep 2018 3:13am
NotWal said..
Pete Cochran - Wind Action
JV (?) - JV sails.
Bruce Peterson - Sailworks

JV = Jaap Voogd
albers
albers
NSW
1739 posts
NSW, 1739 posts
15 Sep 2018 6:39am
Peter Chilvers apparently invented the first sailboard in 1958

TGale
TGale
TAS
301 posts
TAS, 301 posts
15 Sep 2018 12:12pm
Damien Wallace / Jay Sails
510sub
510sub
NSW
33 posts
NSW, 33 posts
15 Sep 2018 8:19pm
Mike Davis.
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
3570 posts
NSW, 3570 posts
15 Sep 2018 9:05pm
TurnBackTime said..
This is not innovation,first wing sail was before almost 30 years.All attemts never had much succes,because wing is unsailable,too rigid ,too small twist etc.


You're right about that. MW, though, just insults the people who tried them before. He also insults the people who haven't tried them, the experts who tell us when they work and when they don't and why, and the people who ask him for proof of his claims.
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
3570 posts
NSW, 3570 posts
15 Sep 2018 9:08pm
Hughes de Turkheim for Tiga
Craig Stroetzel was designing lots of the world's best raceboards when he was killed in a skateboarding accident.
Rick Naish
Georg Lechner for Division 2 boards
Matt Kevlin for the "tanker" tandem that became the original Windsurfer.
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