Pwa world tour sucks

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curac
curac
WA
1160 posts
WA, 1160 posts
6 Jul 2009 11:12pm
peto said...

Curac..some of the people on this forum you think less of, have more than likely met you, seen you sail and had a beer with you. SF was not that long ago. I went to both of them. I know who you are and so does MA (who infact rips and ranked very high at the last SF - where did you come on the standings?). Tone it down. Who gives a fck what the PWA are doing, are you gona change it..NO. So who cares. Relax and continue to sail the awesome conditions you get in Tas. Or is it too cold, thats why you're on the net so much now.


I didn't go to smack fest, I don't live in tassie and I am on the net because I've broken my foot.
So obviously I am not who you think I am.

I don't really think less of anyone on hear. And yes I probably do know some of the people on here a d had a beer with them. So they should know that I would say the same **** in person.

I don't really care that much about the pwa this topic was long dead untill someone dug it and then all the nsw crew decided that they love it.

This has been a bizzare thread with things comming out of the woodwork from all over the place.

Also Peto I'm really glad you went to SF years ago when I was just getting into wavesailing it's good to see someone has held on to that, have you done anything lately?
You must really be like a pro now then.

Anyway this is bullsh1t I'm not going to argue this anymore.

I'll probably see all you legends in WA this year and we can work out who sails better then
P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
7 Jul 2009 12:36am
Curac, you obviously haven't been to N.S.W, there are some really good wave spots, yer W.A gets alot of wind and there are a some good wave spots, but W.A is a massive coastline and takes alot of driving in between each one, in N.S.W you can get a wave sail in pretty much any wind direction within a 4 hour drive, cant do that in W.A.

And bagging MA, well you obviously havn't seen him wavesail, i'm pretty sure no one would be watching you on a wave if you where both on the water..
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
7 Jul 2009 3:05am
P.C_simpson said...
i'm pretty sure no one would be watching you on a wave if you where both on the water..

This thread is damn
SeanAUS120
SeanAUS120
QLD
769 posts
QLD, 769 posts
7 Jul 2009 6:36am
Guys,

Believe it or not, the figure needed for a PWA event (be it slalom/wave/freestyle/whatever) is closer to 200,000 euros. For that money, the PWA bring the party themselves; all the tents, equipment, race crews and boats are supplied - you pay the cash, they do everything else. That being said, that's quite a bit of cash for a sponsor to cough up, which is why most of the events are funded by local government and tourism boards.

This year, the big events in Portugal (Guincho PWA wave, 2x GP World Tour Formula events) were all cancelled because the "Tourismo de Portugal" pulled all the funding.

A similar thing happened in Brazil cancelling the PWA wave event and 2 of the 3 GP World Tour FW events.

They also cancelled PWA Slalom on Lanzarote and Fuerteventura because the Spanish Tourism board pulled the plug on prize money funding. This is really NOT the year for anyone to have 200,000 euros lying around ...

Sylt really does attract 140,000 people to the beach over the 6 day event. It's cold, raining and pretty miserable onshore breezes but the winds are often +30 knots and the surf does get to 2-3m however it can be VERY munchy because its a beach break. Sure, the wavesailing there isn't as radical as Ho'okipa or Cabo Verde however the income they can generate from 140,000 people buying food, drinks, memorabilia from the on site stalls, the payment for parking as well as the daily media coverage and the chance for all Germans to meet their legend 'Bernd Flessner' certainly turns a profit for the organisers. The prizemoney alone for the Sylt event back in the early 90's was US$200,000. That's A LOT of money back then!

I can't ever see 200,000 euros being coughed up in Australia for an event anytime soon; however cool that would be! Getting AUD$50,000 together to run the Formula Worlds in 2005 was an insanely impressive effort by Victoria.

I'm sure there'll be more events on the table next year when the world economies picks up again 'slightly'.
Boris
Boris
261 posts
261 posts
7 Jul 2009 8:17am
curac said...

I'll probably see all you legends in WA this year and we can work out who sails better then


Maybe you should try out for Pozo then. Same onshore sh1t that you'd be used to.
qwerty
qwerty
NSW
807 posts
NSW, 807 posts
7 Jul 2009 10:31am
P.C_simpson said...
And bagging MA, well you obviously havn't seen him wavesail, i'm pretty sure no one would be watching you on a wave if you where both on the water..


well said

peto
peto
NSW
406 posts
NSW, 406 posts
7 Jul 2009 12:16pm
CURAC said.."Also Peto I'm really glad you went to SF years ago when I was just getting into wavesailing it's good to see someone has held on to that, have you done anything lately?
You must really be like a pro now then."

Mate I am far from Pro status and far from being hardcore like yourself...oh as for hanging onto stuff. In 2000 I got best junior in the state for the NSWWA. I am still hanging onto that. The memories... and lately I sailed the lake the other day...MASSIVE chop!
Al Planet
Al Planet
TAS
1548 posts
TAS, 1548 posts
7 Jul 2009 12:41pm
Some random thoughts on Brands, be they sports or sportsmen.

Although occasionally entertained by the World Tour Circus as a showcase of wavesailing it’s never going to compete with the ASP for budget and competition dollars and to me even the ASP is an anachronism of a Kelly Slater era of surfers who transcended the sport to be truly famous.

This is the challenge for any sportsman, to break away from the restrictions of place getting in competition and to be famous for being famous. To become Ken Bradshaw or Robby Naish . Sure most of the financial benefits flow to the individual but the increased media profile for the sport makes it far easier for events to hold on to their sponsors.

In the past “Brand” meant company, product or label but increasingly ‘Brand” is being eroded to mean many different things and peoples willingness to pay that premium is being eroded. Blame the digital age or the Chinese, its just that much harder to hold the attention of enough people, to tell a story, to focus attention.

This is the complex challenge for anyone who wants companies to pitch in money for an event or an individual sponsorship.

Regardless, to me wavesailing is more akin to Heli-skiing. A unique opportunity to head out into conditions that are rarely crowded, often challenging and more fun than any other sport. The fact that I usually have it all to myself or with one or two other mates is just part of the deal.


qwerty
qwerty
NSW
807 posts
NSW, 807 posts
7 Jul 2009 1:01pm
peto said...

Mate I am far from Pro status and far from being hardcore like yourself...oh as for hanging onto stuff. In 2000 I got best junior in the state for the NSWWA. I am still hanging onto that. The memories... and lately I sailed the lake the other day...MASSIVE chop!


Don't forget you can also snort a schooner of VB up your nose in 13 seconds, and headbutt yourself in the stomach
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14953 posts
QLD, 14953 posts
7 Jul 2009 10:17pm
what we need is an australian tour like what WA had in the early 90's.

each club, and there has been a boom in the last 2 years could put up 1 event for the calender to be a "major event".

prize money is available via local council grants. and it would need to be prize money so the pro guys can actually pay for their travel.

there is a mag in australia that could provide coaverage. it just needs each event organiser to work together. each event takes on ownership of their own event which could form part of the overall tour.

the regiona areas work best as regional councils support alternate sports more and regional tv networks will cover regional events.

the list of major events (below) in australia is pretty good and they don't clash too badly. the list doesn't even come close to mentioning all of the events that occur like the state and national titles for each discipline

slalom / wave LOC - jan - wa
wave /smackfest - feb - tas
wave / tabou wave classic - march -qld
speed / KA sail speed comp burrum - march - qld
speed / green island speed - june - qld
speed / al's speed week - sept - Vic
wave / mambo - November - nsw
course / 7th World Masters Games -nov - nsw

any other events that should be in there?
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