How do we make kiting less popular to the masses ?

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waveslave
waveslave
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18 Mar 2009 3:16pm
If you believe there are too many kitesurfers on the water......
what do you think would make the sport less appealing to the gumbies ?
WA waverider
WA waverider
WA
79 posts
WA, 79 posts
18 Mar 2009 3:22pm
wearing pink boardies over your wetsuit
stamp
stamp
QLD
2797 posts
QLD, 2797 posts
18 Mar 2009 4:26pm
hopefully it will fade like windsurfing did after its initial popularity, and just leave a core of dedicated riders.
or maybe something even easier to learn will come along.....
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
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18 Mar 2009 5:29pm
Why would you do that - surley you don't want the gumbies sailboarding.
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
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18 Mar 2009 5:34pm
Make it so that their first lesson is in 30kt+ winds...and the rest of the class have to watch...that should do it!

Otherwise, send them over here to Vic. Either offshore/gusty winds, or none at all!

[edit] As I've said before, it's rare to see a kite here, we have no 'overcrowding' issues, if anything, there's not enough watersports persons (politically-correct) besides fishermen & yachties...it soulds like even you kiters are getting sick of the influx of cowboys?
poor relative
poor relative
WA
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18 Mar 2009 4:05pm
Its popularity will kill it.
nutbag
nutbag
154 posts
154 posts
18 Mar 2009 4:14pm
It couldn't get any less popular. Everyone thinks its sh1t already. [}:)]
hardie
hardie
WA
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18 Mar 2009 4:26pm
poor relative said...

Its popularity will kill it.


Can't see it being killed by popularity, though maybe seriosly restricted in some ways or in some areas maybe?

Visually, It just captures the imagination of people, in particular the young and the numbers just keep growing. You can't make it less visually appealling.

One proposal that I've heard about, is that windsurfers and kitesurfers may be legislated as recreational water craft, and in the future be required to obtain a Recreational skippers ticket, and that licence numbers will be mandatory on all kite's and sails. That this will enable officer's of the legislated authority to impose significant fines, which will end up in court if not paid, on any behaviour that contravene's the legislation. Issues such as dangerous behaviour, rigging and launching, not observing giving way to starboard, sailing/kitesurfing within restricted areas, etc.

My source, tells me this was an idea/option in a brain-storming session at a meeting of the concerned govt authorities. That less invasive measures were favored to be trialled first, these will be observed, monitored and measured, and that licensing with a punitive approach is a future option, if the less invasive measures fail. My source said this would apply to windsurfers as well as kitesurfers. Might reduce numbers in both sportz


So it's up to all of us guyz, it won't be just kitesurfers that get restricted and banned, windsurfers are being monitored as well.

We are all on notice, and I think Safety Bay is the trial zone, so any windsurfer that puts a kitesufer, fellow windsurfer, or member of the community in danger at SBay gets a black mark against windsurfers, and any kitesurfer that does the same gets a black mark for kitesurfing. But if you read between the line/s I think both sports will be legislated against no matter whom does what.


grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
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18 Mar 2009 4:59pm
poor relative said...

Its popularity will kill it.


as happened to windsurfing 10 years ago ...

also the financial crisis will see less people with large disposable incomes coupled with the fact that the price of kites (and windsurf gear for that matter) isn't going to come down will see less newbies taking it up in the next couple of seasons.
nasty
nasty
WA
153 posts
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18 Mar 2009 6:01pm
Like most things, a few idiots will manage to ruin it for the majority with their stupidity leading to restrictions at popular spots
surfingboye
surfingboye
NSW
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18 Mar 2009 8:37pm


Wannabe
Wannabe
NSW
148 posts
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18 Mar 2009 8:38pm
We could make all the kites in a rainbow 'gay pride' pattern, but that may not make much difference to the crowd attracted by this activity
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
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18 Mar 2009 7:51pm
No more regulations !! For f@#ks sake !! The day we have to pay rego on windsurfers, surf boards, kayaks, kite boards, what ever, is the day I launch a rocket attack against the government !!! COMMON SENSE is all thats required.
CJW
CJW
NSW
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18 Mar 2009 9:17pm
Richie I 100% agree. You can hardly do anything these days without having to follow some sort of bloody regulation. The last 10 years it has just been getting worse and worse....unfortunately I don't see it improving.

I'll go halves on the rocket/s
NDH47
NDH47
NSW
102 posts
NSW, 102 posts
18 Mar 2009 9:21pm
FlickySpinny said...

Follow the lead of Pakistan... and arrest EVERYONE who flies a kite

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200603/s1590626.htm


Very interesting part of that article that could apply to this thread [}:)]

"The local government announced a ban on kite flying ahead of Sunday's festival to prevent deaths and injuries caused every year by metal and glass coated string that enthusiasts use to cut the string of rivals in aerial duels."

Kiter aerial duels..... now theres a thought! Could turn kiting into a blood sport.
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
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18 Mar 2009 9:45pm
Richiefish said...

No more regulations !! For f@#ks sake !! The day we have to pay rego on windsurfers, surf boards, kayaks, kite boards, what ever, is the day I launch a rocket attack against the government !!! COMMON SENSE is all thats required.


If it ever happened it would purley be revenue gathering - [}:)]

this sort of rubbish has been mooted for years, as far back in the 70's for surfboards and a similar plan for cyclists gets raised nearly every year. Yet they pump money into TV adds about not being healthy, getting active, not to mention how much money gets poored into the health system - Sure - Lets tax the active to pay for the sedentry - an oxymoron of sorts.
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
18 Mar 2009 8:52pm
Youll have to make your kites look really boring and sedate.
A month ago the kids and were driving along the coast and saw a mass of kites sailing? nth of Hillaries, we got drawn like mossies to a UV lamp.
It just looked amazing.
If it attracts normal 40+ year old kids like myself, how are you going to stop the really youngBoguns who've actually got the money to do it?
elmo
elmo
WA
8890 posts
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18 Mar 2009 9:05pm
waveslave said...

If you believe there are too many kitesurfers on the water......
what do you think would make the sport less appealing to the gumbies ?


Wasn't that your job
Bertie
Bertie
NSW
1351 posts
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18 Mar 2009 11:14pm
waveslave said...

If you believe there are too many kitesurfers on the water......
what do you think would make the sport less appealing to the gumbies ?


by revealing your true identity.
curac
curac
WA
1160 posts
WA, 1160 posts
18 Mar 2009 9:48pm
I wouldn't worry about it. The problem will take care of itself kiters are gay so will just breed themselves out
fletch1408
fletch1408
TAS
44 posts
TAS, 44 posts
19 Mar 2009 12:15am
recession and low dollar?
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
19 Mar 2009 3:05am
The universe will unfold as it should, but will take a long time.

Here in N.A., most traditional W/S shops have switched big time to kiting, it's the mercantile void to fill. Same with all the "kiting schools" and other self-learners.

A shop here actually tries hard to discourage windsurfers: "kiting is the thing in now", and all that crap. Same guy who was promoting "the 2008 version is quarter-ounce lighter, therefore you will plane .02 knot earlier." The guy would promote wanking if he could make money out of it.

The kiting fad will probably last 10 years that way, forever appealing to more people looking for easiness.
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
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19 Mar 2009 8:27am
It might become like yo-yos ???
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
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19 Mar 2009 9:52am
Richiefish said...

It might become like yo-yos ???


Hey Rich, yo-yos are still awesome! I remember the coca-cola guys coming to my primary school and doing yo-yo tricks (back in the '70s)...they were the coooolest!

echunda
echunda
VIC
765 posts
VIC, 765 posts
19 Mar 2009 12:43pm
I think the way to go would be have Pauline Hanson official ambassador of Kite surfers.


Then tell all the missionaries and born again Christians to hang around kite surfers as they really need rescuing from god. If that doesn’t work, give the missionaries kite lessons so they can preach while they kite!

Another way is give every kiter’s ex girlfriends kite lessons. That’ll get ‘em into another sport quick smart. Why not get the ex’s mothers on the beach as well. Give them a good ear bashing as their struggling with their kite on land.


Make K Rudd give everyone but kiters the stimulus package on the grounds that they’re stimulated enough.

555
555
892 posts
555 555
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19 Mar 2009 11:18am
Stop the manufacturers from making it so 'easy'.

Remove everything except the early 4 line C kites that used to rip your backside out through your navel via the harness when they powered up. (I've still got a couple of those in the back of the shed somewhere)

Or, (and this worked really well for the windsurfing industry), get rid of those highly visible coloured canopies, and get them to make clear ones that nobody really notices.

Make it gay(er) so that the 'cool' crowd take up road cycling or something less gay..

It's not so much that there are too many kitesurfers on the water, just that there are too many gumbies on the water in general. Kiters, poleys, goat-boats, SUPs, stink boats, and surfers all have their share of complete nobs.

At least us windsurfers prefer conditions where most gumbies stay at home out of the wind.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
19 Mar 2009 2:18pm
Make kite colours similar to the dull colours put out by certain sail manufacturers plus make the kites transparent as 555 suggests. So a clear kite with brown & grey trim. That will turn people off.

DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
NSW, 1510 posts
19 Mar 2009 2:35pm
Mobydisc said...

make the kites transparent as 555 suggests. So a clear kite with brown & grey trim. That will turn people off.


Sort of a used toilet paper look
surfingboye
surfingboye
NSW
2707 posts
NSW, 2707 posts
19 Mar 2009 4:44pm
just hack it oldies.

your all soo jealous of the attention the kiters get. i know how you feel; like the teddy bear that is ignored once the kid grows up.

maybe you should give up windsailing and take up jetski wave jumping. that gets the crowd watching.

ps. i dont kite either.



pingu
pingu
TAS
40 posts
TAS, 40 posts
19 Mar 2009 4:49pm


Gumby's way to cool to Kite!!!
Glassbottom
Glassbottom
WA
27 posts
WA, 27 posts
19 Mar 2009 5:22pm
Simple. Introduce them to a couple of kitesurfers. That should do the trick nicely...

Regulation and licensing was talked about for a while in the early days of the teabaggers, when they were busy smacking themselves into anything solid/electrified/pointy around the beach. The worry was that windsurfing would be caught in the same noose. Now that things have calmed down a bit, and the ambulances are a little less popular on the beach, it seems to gone away.

Interestingly though, without a licensing scheme, councils cannot allocate "gazette" windsurfing/kiting areas for exclusion of other motor boats/jetskis and the like. Found this out when some d*ck in a tinnie dragged a 5 ft high fishing line in front of a sailing fleet at Pelican Point. My sail and hands ended up getting garrotted by the line. Reported to Water Cops but was basically legal.
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