Another stuck mast

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Gonebush
Gonebush
NSW
160 posts
NSW, 160 posts
3 Nov 2018 12:22pm
Ian K said..

John340 said..
I've never had a stuck mast when I tape the joint.



Never had a stuck mast in 10 years of rigging on grass. Saved myself metres of duct tape. ( That's a silent "t" in duct )

My theory is - Just a theory. It's the derigging sand that sticks masts. If the inside of the mast top is wet sand sticks and doesn't shake out. If it gets wet while sailing it all flushes down into the joint. Tape keeps the inside dry.

(there's a wise old proverb I read once along the lines of if each grain of sand could tell a story - relevant here but I can't find it )


Not if you sail waves. The sand gets in it while you are in the shore break.
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
3 Nov 2018 12:16pm
I find that if you soak the whole assembly in a tank of high concentrated hydrochloric acid you will no longer have a stuck mast. This is also a sure fire cure for the aids virus.
skyking1231
skyking1231
160 posts
160 posts
4 Nov 2018 11:10pm
reading through this thread.....i don't recall anyone mentioning the two boom method. This works great for a stuck mast (provided you have two booms). clamp one boom on bottom section...and the other on top. make them tight.... but not too tight as to damage the mast. the booms become like giant wrenches... this works 99% of the time for me. the other 1%, like the other day my mast was really stuck. I then used a garden hose with a jet type nozzle. shoot the water into the joint. the water will get into the mast and joint dislodging that pesky grain/s of sand....then follow up with the two boom method.

some also boiling water over joint... haven't tried that.
forceten
forceten
1312 posts
1312 posts
4 Nov 2018 11:44pm
How's bout boiling hydrochloride
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
5 Nov 2018 1:42am
I wish I never said lets go thru all of them again.....
Mastbender
Mastbender
1972 posts
1972 posts
5 Nov 2018 3:54am
Mark _australia said..
I wish I never said lets go thru all of them again.....


50th time is the charm.
FishMints
FishMints
SA
155 posts
SA, 155 posts
5 Nov 2018 1:17pm
Richiefish said..
I find that if you soak the whole assembly in a tank of high concentrated hydrochloric acid you will no longer have a stuck mast. This is also a sure fire cure for the aids virus.


and if you can't find any at Bunnings ...just nip down to your local Saudi embassy.
mathew
mathew
QLD
2167 posts
QLD, 2167 posts
5 Nov 2018 9:34pm
Mastbender said..
The ferrel that you drew is waaaay too short, I can't see that kind of slop in a mast if you are using the proper top and bottom of the same brand.
However if they are two different brands, which I've seen people use, I could see that, slightly, or if you didn't get the mast all the way together, which can also break the mast at the junction. Seen that several times, the female half will split at the junction.
Anyway, tape, tape, tape, no need for some fancy invention to get the mast apart.


The wall-thickness is also way to thin... and the taper is wrong... and the curve wasn't an IMCS measurement. Yeah that person who posted that pic, really doesn't have a clue about anything.
Manuel7
Manuel7
1349 posts
1349 posts
5 Nov 2018 7:43pm
forceten
forceten
1312 posts
1312 posts
5 Nov 2018 10:50pm


Here is a typical (and probably somewhat mythical) mast curve... with an exploded view of the mast-joint. When you apply tension to the sail, the mast bends... since the material flexes ( even just minimally ) and the joint is not an ideal-fit, there will be a slight opening-up of the joint.

So reading this: it's a drawing, not photo, the first sentence says"somewhat mythical ".
made sense to me.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12872 posts
WA, 12872 posts
6 Nov 2018 10:57am
forceten said..
So reading this: it's a drawing, not photo, the first sentence says"somewhat mythical ".
made sense to me.


This is why the best mast is a single piece, two piece masts should only be a compromise for transport problems.
Then you wouldn't have to worry about getting them unstuck!
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