jbshack said..

ex said..

Woodo said..
http://www.surfinglife.com.au/news/sl-news/12439-great-white-in-esperance

Full sequence.
Blood would be pumping hard

Maybe you could "Share a PM with JBshack" or ask "Rory from fisheries" what this great white is "apparently" up to, maybe this is not called "evidence".

I would have thought it obvious what the shark is up too. Its checking the surfer out to see what he is.. Look at the water and how clear it is. The shark is interested to see just what the one big dark object is floating on the surface so he swims over to have a look. But the fact that he didn't attack the surfer would indicate (To me) that he didn't want to eat, or wasn't interested in eating the surfer. I know their are loads of comments he was lucky to get away, but the truth is if that shark WANTED to attack it would have and the surfer would have had no were to run too..

But he did everything he should have. The surfer kept an eye on the shark, turning to look directly at it, he didn't panic and just flea turning his back on the animal. Amazing photos and the surfer now has one hell of a story to tell, which he does beautifully

Relax JB I'm just taking the Piss, as I often do. Call it a SB drumline and you took the bait! I did find your comments to Woodo a little arrogant and we are clearly on the opposite sides relating to this issue. I feel your ideas and reasoning regarding shark conservation come across ideological. You look at things completely different to me as you outlined in your comments. You're reasoning such as "fact he didn't attack, clear water, he didn't want to eat, wasn't interested" to me are just circumstantial suggestions. I do find it amusing that you relate to the shark as "he" a couple of times, this suggests to me some sort of emotional passion you have for this animal, that's nice.

To me it is obvious, he was lucking and it was only a matter seconds before he became another shark fatality.
Right or wrong I just see a shark as another fish!

ex said..

jbshack said..

ex said..

Woodo said..
http://www.surfinglife.com.au/news/sl-news/12439-great-white-in-esperance

Full sequence.
Blood would be pumping hard

Maybe you could "Share a PM with JBshack" or ask "Rory from fisheries" what this great white is "apparently" up to, maybe this is not called "evidence".

I would have thought it obvious what the shark is up too. Its checking the surfer out to see what he is.. Look at the water and how clear it is. The shark is interested to see just what the one big dark object is floating on the surface so he swims over to have a look. But the fact that he didn't attack the surfer would indicate (To me) that he didn't want to eat, or wasn't interested in eating the surfer. I know their are loads of comments he was lucky to get away, but the truth is if that shark WANTED to attack it would have and the surfer would have had no were to run too..

But he did everything he should have. The surfer kept an eye on the shark, turning to look directly at it, he didn't panic and just flea turning his back on the animal. Amazing photos and the surfer now has one hell of a story to tell, which he does beautifully

Relax JB I'm just taking the Piss, as I often do. Call it a SB drumline and you took the bait! I did find your comments to Woodo a little arrogant and we are clearly on the opposite sides relating to this issue. I feel your ideas and reasoning regarding shark conservation come across ideological. You look at things completely different to me as you outlined in your comments. You're reasoning such as "fact he didn't attack, clear water, he didn't want to eat, wasn't interested" to me are just circumstantial suggestions. I do find it amusing that you relate to the shark as "he" a couple of times, this suggests to me some sort of emotional passion you have for this animal, that's nice.

To me it is obvious, he was lucking and it was only a matter seconds before he became another shark fatality.
Right or wrong I just see a shark as another fish!

Nothing to relax about, i don't get upset, just pointing out what i see of interest. The surfer was never in real danger, he even said that.

The funniest part is I'm actually not really that attached to sharks. I'm more about my own safety in the water. It just gets turned that way to the enjoyment of a few that really have little to offer in way of discussion.. I guess some will just sit back and do nothing, whilst others try and make some change. Maybe they'll make some noise when the Cove and Scarbs get rock pools built into them

I say he but i have no idea. Not sure how you can determine arrogance from a typed post (especially with my grammar skills)

IFocus said..

ex said..
To me it is obvious, he was lucking and it was only a matter seconds before he became another shark fatality.

Never heard of anyone sighting the shark that attacks them unless its in full flight with the jaws wide open, they stalk and surprise their prey so they (the shark) has less chance of injury during the attack.

Guy at work has a brother Ab diver out of Esperance had another GW in full attach mode come at him and turn once it go within the shark shield range.

Makes a great story headline for the punters and fires up a pointless debate here but the surfer was wasn't in any really danger as long as he stayed calm and got out of the water.

Without starting a p!ssing competition mine is bigger than yours I had a number of run ins with big tiger sharks surfing in the north west in the early 80s and I know its different scenario to the GWs in the south west but as long as I had seen them then I knew I was OK and could ease my way out of the water.

They are opportunistic predators so they stalk, surprise, or scavenge. Smaller whites as showen in the pics are transitioning from fish to incorporate larger mammal species into their diets so although it seemed inquisitive that can change in a second - inquisitive bights can happen with white's. I assume the shark was scouting it next prey but you & JB could be right, we will never know as we are not the shark. I call it how I see it and he is lucky he is still alive.

Everyone is entitled to their view and I have said my bit but I feel I'm about to start lecturing so Im pulling out of this topic.
Safe surfing over the weekend fellas!

jbshack said..

ex said..

IFocus said..

ex said..
To me it is obvious, he was lucking and it was only a matter seconds before he became another shark fatality.

Never heard of anyone sighting the shark that attacks them unless its in full flight with the jaws wide open, they stalk and surprise their prey so they (the shark) has less chance of injury during the attack.

Guy at work has a brother Ab diver out of Esperance had another GW in full attach mode come at him and turn once it go within the shark shield range.

Makes a great story headline for the punters and fires up a pointless debate here but the surfer was wasn't in any really danger as long as he stayed calm and got out of the water.

Without starting a p!ssing competition mine is bigger than yours I had a number of run ins with big tiger sharks surfing in the north west in the early 80s and I know its different scenario to the GWs in the south west but as long as I had seen them then I knew I was OK and could ease my way out of the water.

They are opportunistic predators so they stalk, surprise, or scavenge. Smaller whites as showen in the pics are transitioning from fish to incorporate larger mammal species into their diets so although it seemed inquisitive that can change in a second - inquisitive bights can happen with white's. I assume the shark was scouting it next prey but you & JB could be right, we will never know as we are not the shark. I call it how I see it and he is lucky he is still alive.

Everyone is entitled to their view and I have said my bit but I feel I'm about to start lecturing so Im pulling out of this topic.
Safe surfing over the weekend fellas!

Your dead right in what i highlighted. Just out of curiosity both sharks that were caught and killed by fisheries in Esperance were both immature sharks (According to Fisheries). So technically also unlikely to have been responsible for an attack on a human


As far as inquisitive bites i was recently told (just before jumping into the water with a large school of sharks) to just push them away, and if a Tiger comes in for an inquisitive bite, just push down on its head, as they will then just drop and swim away, as they don't have the muscle to open their jaw.. Just a bit of trivia for everyone to red thumb

There you go again! Being suggestive and selective to support your point of view, you have taken my sentence out of context.
Technically fisheries said it was inconclusive! So where they hell did you get "So technically also unlikely to have been responsible for an attack on a human", is this another one of your personal assumptions.

Just out of curiosity do you have only one eye!

JB don't forget to assume is to make ass out of u and me.. Just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean they have their heads buried in the sand it just means they see things differently.

By your same reasoning it would be just as fair to assume that since fisheries had the expertise, the jaws and the board but did not conclusively rule them out as the animals responsible then it is possible they could have been responsible.

Agree to disagree sounds like the best outcome JB.