I agree sort of. These days Ive got a heap of fins so it really isnt an issue for me but I think that a set of plastic fins would be fine and cheap enough to sell with a board.
Fire wire were the first to start the trend.
I always thought that the set of fins that you got with the board was the ones that the shaper recomended you use.
Why not just adjust the price of the board to sell with fins?

Not that I ever buy new boards, but if I did, I'd prefer to board to be sold without fins and for that to be reflected in the price. I have so many sets of fins that I don't see the need for anymore.

doggie said...
I agree sort of. These days Ive got a heap of fins so it really isnt an issue for me but I think that a set of plastic fins would be fine and cheap enough to sell with a board.
Fire wire were the first to start the trend.

They've stopped selling their boards with fins now. So you can choose a set suited to you. Price of their boards was reduced to reflect the lack of fins.

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doggie said...
I agree sort of. These days Ive got a heap of fins so it really isnt an issue for me but I think that a set of plastic fins would be fine and cheap enough to sell with a board.
Fire wire were the first to start the trend.

They've stopped selling their boards with fins now. So you can choose a set suited to you. Price of their boards was reduced to reflect the lack of fins.

From what Ive seen the price has crept up to where it was before they stopped suplying fins.
When I got my latest board the shaper asked me if I wanted them, I didnt take any as I had plenty. How much is a set of plastic fins these days?

35 bucks about four years ago

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doggie said...

Dawn Patrol said...

doggie said...
I agree sort of. These days Ive got a heap of fins so it really isnt an issue for me but I think that a set of plastic fins would be fine and cheap enough to sell with a board.
Fire wire were the first to start the trend.

They've stopped selling their boards with fins now. So you can choose a set suited to you. Price of their boards was reduced to reflect the lack of fins.

From what Ive seen the price has crept up to where it was before they stopped suplying fins.
When I got my latest board the shaper asked me if I wanted them, I didnt take any as I had plenty. How much is a set of plastic fins these days?

Yeh that's probably correct and sounds hardly surprising.

Speaking of fins, do people prefer FCS, future or glass ins?

I like glass on but use FCS. Never used Futures but they seem like a good system.
Ive got so much FCS now that I wouldnt change now.

DJMWA said...

subasurf said...
Not that I ever buy new boards, but if I did, I'd prefer to board to be sold without fins and for that to be reflected in the price. I have so many sets of fins that I don't see the need for anymore.

Why don't you buy new boards ????

I travel quite a bit and I go through boards like crazy. Being a student I can't justify forking out for a new board that I suspect I'll manage to break within 6 months. I'm not opposed to buying boards new on any grounds other than the fact I don't have money to burn and I love trying out loads of different shapes and sizes so second hand boards suit my lifestyle.

The best board I ever had was a retro 5'8" that cost me $100 and lasted 4 months before I was dropped hard onto a reef and broke it.

photosbykarlo said...
Interesting points, then I guess the next question is how many people can tell the difference between different types of fins anyway. My surfing is not that good that I can tell.

Maybe I should try and see.

What type of board do you have and how much do you weigh?

Im 85kgs and have just gone up a fin size. Went from PC5s to PC7s.

I tried a bigger fin and it was too stiff, ie it didnt want to turn as easy as it did before.

JBFletch said...

doggie said...

photosbykarlo said...
Interesting points, then I guess the next question is how many people can tell the difference between different types of fins anyway. My surfing is not that good that I can tell.

Maybe I should try and see.

What type of board do you have and how much do you weigh?

Im 85kgs and have just gone up a fin size. Went from PC5s to PC7s.

I tried a bigger fin and it was too stiff, ie it didnt want to turn as easy as it did before.

if you can try plastic, glass, hex and carbon all in the same sesh.
seems like a lot of ****ing around but you'll definitely notice a difference

I change all the time. It allows me to use a board which might otherwise be unwise in the prevailing conditions.

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doggie said...

Dawn Patrol said...

doggie said...
I agree sort of. These days Ive got a heap of fins so it really isnt an issue for me but I think that a set of plastic fins would be fine and cheap enough to sell with a board.
Fire wire were the first to start the trend.

They've stopped selling their boards with fins now. So you can choose a set suited to you. Price of their boards was reduced to reflect the lack of fins.

From what Ive seen the price has crept up to where it was before they stopped suplying fins.
When I got my latest board the shaper asked me if I wanted them, I didnt take any as I had plenty. How much is a set of plastic fins these days?

Yeh that's probably correct and sounds hardly surprising.

Speaking of fins, do people prefer FCS, future or glass ins?

I have both...2 boards with Futures and rest with FCS...its much of a muchness...positive of futures is only 1 fin screw per fin...negative of futures is only 1 fin screw per fin horses for courses I guess.

katana said...
Have to say we have started doing this as well this year purely based on customers asking for prices on boards with out as they have so many sets already With the variety of fins on the market it makes more sense to let people choose exactly what they want. What we offer all our customers is a 40% discount on the set of fins they choose for their board Whether that is a set of basic G5 for $25 or a set of PC cores for $80 Everyone is stoked with that. I make recommendations on fins to customers but its up to them on what they want to spend or what they already own. We also offer sea breezers a basic set of fins or tail pad for free with any new board

hi katana,
do you make boards with the future fin system ?
i am saving money for a new stick after firewire's fiasco

JBFletch said...

doggie said...

photosbykarlo said...
Interesting points, then I guess the next question is how many people can tell the difference between different types of fins anyway. My surfing is not that good that I can tell.

Maybe I should try and see.

What type of board do you have and how much do you weigh?

Im 85kgs and have just gone up a fin size. Went from PC5s to PC7s.

I tried a bigger fin and it was too stiff, ie it didnt want to turn as easy as it did before.

if you can try plastic, glass, hex and carbon all in the same sesh.
seems like a lot of ****ing around but you'll definitely notice a difference

I dont change them during a session but I do swap them around before each session.

This what Im running at the moment -


Seems to work well, goes good as a thruster as well

Oh doggie, the terrible turbulence that empty plug must create around the stubby...

Buster fin said...
Oh doggie, the terrible turbulence that empty plug must create around the stubby...

Funny thing is I did think about that. I was thinking of putting a sticker over it

Dawn Patrol said...

doggie said...

Dawn Patrol said...

doggie said...
I agree sort of. These days Ive got a heap of fins so it really isnt an issue for me but I think that a set of plastic fins would be fine and cheap enough to sell with a board.
Fire wire were the first to start the trend.

They've stopped selling their boards with fins now. So you can choose a set suited to you. Price of their boards was reduced to reflect the lack of fins.

From what Ive seen the price has crept up to where it was before they stopped suplying fins.
When I got my latest board the shaper asked me if I wanted them, I didnt take any as I had plenty. How much is a set of plastic fins these days?

Yeh that's probably correct and sounds hardly surprising.

Speaking of fins, do people prefer FCS, future or glass ins?

Personally I think the futures design isn't great, requires the fins to be perfectly fitted to the boxes for lateral stability and I've found some variability in the based thickness which really affects this. I've also had sets of fins (blackstix included) warp sitting in a boradbag on the rack. Finally if you do whack them hard enough to lift them they make a mess that's pretty hard to clean up, also given they don't bond through to the deck like the original fcs plugs loosening them by whacking the side on isn't that hard.

Not hard to guess, I like the standard old black fcs plugs, pretty sound design (not indestructable obviously), easy to repair and best of all there's bucket loads of genuine and non genuine fins out there to try.