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RoyStuart
RoyStuart
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532 posts
1 Feb 2015 4:58pm
Cobra said..
SandS said..

when its strong offshore most of the shaper's design skill and fabrication skill , goes straight out the window any way .

a 15 nt offshore breeze coupled with the apparent wind generated by the speed of the wave , add some chop , equals ...........lift off !!! as most boards need some nose rocker, up she goes with the wind .

Roy , may be you need to incorporate some kind of down draft aerodynamics in the noses for big waves in strong offshore conditions .


I, ll only want 50 percent of profits made for that tip old fellow .



thats great for take off.
but what happens when you're speeding along the face.


The fact is no attention is paid to aerodynamics, why do you think that the nose on my 16-021 looks like it does? Aerodynamics is one of the main reasons.
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
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1 Feb 2015 8:06pm
Cobra said..

SandS said..

when its strong offshore most of the shaper's design skill and fabrication skill , goes straight out the window any way .

a 15 nt offshore breeze coupled with the apparent wind generated by the speed of the wave , add some chop , equals ...........lift off !!! as most boards need some nose rocker, up she goes with the wind .

Roy , may be you need to incorporate some kind of down draft aerodynamics in the noses for big waves in strong offshore conditions .


I, ll only want 50 percent of profits made for that tip old fellow .



thats great for take off.
but what happens when you're speeding along the face.


you would be speeding , not bouncing !!
surfbroker
surfbroker
NSW
1489 posts
NSW, 1489 posts
1 Feb 2015 8:08pm
Enough already....points for...points against..same as politics..Newman the new guy..Newman the past guy..

RR out of date..etc etc..if we keep posting this thread will keep running..

Ha Ha..this is my last post on the subject..over it..lets see the evidence
SandS
SandS
VIC
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1 Feb 2015 8:20pm
RoyStuart said..
The features which I've described, plus more weight and better nose shapecure that problem even with 35 knots plus apparent wind.



so, now we are getting down to the critical design concept for large offshore conditions ................. is the nose shape developed yet or not ?

radical reverse rocker in the in the first one foot running into normal nose rocker from there back ??
RoyStuart
RoyStuart
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532 posts
1 Feb 2015 5:25pm
SandS said..
RoyStuart said..
The features which I've described, plus more weight and better nose shapecure that problem even with 35 knots plus apparent wind.



so, now we are getting down to the critical design concept for large offshore conditions ................. is the nose shape developed yet or not ?

radical reverse rocker in the in the first one foot running into normal nose rocker from there back ??


Yes it was developed 20 years ago and is the nose you see on the board I'm making. Nose shape is only part of the solution though.
SandS
SandS
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1 Feb 2015 9:23pm
RoyStuart said..

SandS said..

RoyStuart said..
The features which I've described, plus more weight and better nose shapecure that problem even with 35 knots plus apparent wind.




so, now we are getting down to the critical design concept for large offshore conditions ................. is the nose shape developed yet or not ?

radical reverse rocker in the in the first one foot running into normal nose rocker from there back ??



Yes it was developed 20 years ago and is the nose you see on the board I'm making. Nose shape is only part of the solution though.


so where is it ? let me see this ugly duckling............
wavemaniac
wavemaniac
471 posts
471 posts
1 Feb 2015 8:49pm
Roy, theres a place called SHIPSTERNS, not too far a paddle for your boats....bring them over and HAVE A GO !
joeyjojo
joeyjojo
67 posts
67 posts
1 Feb 2015 11:06pm
@roy
i don't know you, but you always seem to post on a lot of the different forums I read and there's a couple of things I dont quite understand. It's a running theme, so I hope you might be able to clear some issues up for me!

you post on open forums about surfboard designs but can never take or accept constructive critisim. Instead choose to "throw" abuse or try to question other forum members intelligence. Knowledge or credentials!

you also promote the performance aspects of your boards and fins, but on the other hand personally discredit any progressive style of surfing post the 70's. Preferring, as shown in your many own online videos, to go straight, stand in one place ( never seen you cross step) and "sort of turn".

theres also the topic of your million dollar board. Again, plugging it on any and all online forums and websites, but when the question comes up about the sale; dead silence! Rumour mill has it that it went to a pharmaceutical executive for an undisclosed amount! I heard you sold it to "x" the synthetic drug manufacturer?
since you don't take drugs yourself and the sale infact did go ahead, is there any feeling of "conflict of ideals" or happy with the money grab!

if you could sort these questions out for me in a non-trolling manner, it would help me appreciate and understand your posts a little bit better
RoyStuart
RoyStuart
532 posts
532 posts
2 Feb 2015 1:47am
Your summary is nonsense so can't be answered.
wavemaniac
wavemaniac
471 posts
471 posts
2 Feb 2015 5:03am
what part is nonsense? the part about the board you "sold"?

the part about constructive criticism?

the part about you going STRAIGHT in your online videos?

or the other parts?
surferstu
surferstu
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1011 posts
2 Feb 2015 7:42am
RoyStuart said..
Your summary is nonsense so can't be answered.








Macaha
Macaha
QLD
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2 Feb 2015 3:21pm
This photo was taken 54 weeks ago



RoyStuart
RoyStuart
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532 posts
2 Feb 2015 1:50pm
Nice boards^
RoyStuart
RoyStuart
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532 posts
2 Feb 2015 1:56pm
Taken 16 years ago... 13'9" 70 pound redwood Dragon board:

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RoyStuart
RoyStuart
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532 posts
2 Feb 2015 2:14pm
Taken 15 years ago... the second balsa 12 foot Future Primitive 'Ghost':






RoyStuart
RoyStuart
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532 posts
2 Feb 2015 2:19pm


And the first one, built 1997 picture taken 17 years ago:



Both boards were ridden to death.
RoyStuart
RoyStuart
532 posts
532 posts
2 Feb 2015 2:31pm
9'1" balsa pintail built year 2000:



Macaha
Macaha
QLD
21982 posts
QLD, 21982 posts
2 Feb 2015 4:36pm
Now Roy, in your words I'm important would you kindly answer a question on your rocker,its massive?
surferstu
surferstu
1011 posts
1011 posts
2 Feb 2015 2:40pm
I vaguely remember someone from hawaii talking about the ridiculous amount of rocker these boats have, can't quite remember his name though.
towball
towball
4634 posts
4634 posts
2 Feb 2015 2:44pm
Macaha said..
Now Roy, in your words I'm important would you kindly answer a question on your rocker,its massive?


No Roy's off his rocker now
Macaha
Macaha
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2 Feb 2015 4:47pm



RoyStuart
RoyStuart
532 posts
532 posts
2 Feb 2015 2:50pm
Macaha said..
Now Roy, in your words I'm important would you kindly answer a question on your rocker,its massive?


Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

A more detailed reply is possible,.
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi
NSW
14256 posts
NSW, 14256 posts
2 Feb 2015 5:51pm
Give me 10 pages now !
RoyStuart
RoyStuart
532 posts
532 posts
2 Feb 2015 2:52pm
RoyStuart said..
9'1" balsa pintail built year 2000:





2 inches of rocker nose and tail on this 9'1"
surferstu
surferstu
1011 posts
1011 posts
2 Feb 2015 3:06pm
joeyjojo said..
@roy
i don't know you, but you always seem to post on a lot of the different forums I read and there's a couple of things I dont quite understand. It's a running theme, so I hope you might be able to clear some issues up for me!

you post on open forums about surfboard designs but can never take or accept constructive critisim. Instead choose to "throw" abuse or try to question other forum members intelligence. Knowledge or credentials!

you also promote the performance aspects of your boards and fins, but on the other hand personally discredit any progressive style of surfing post the 70's. Preferring, as shown in your many own online videos, to go straight, stand in one place ( never seen you cross step) and "sort of turn".

theres also the topic of your million dollar board. Again, plugging it on any and all online forums and websites, but when the question comes up about the sale; dead silence! Rumour mill has it that it went to a pharmaceutical executive for an undisclosed amount! I heard you sold it to "x" the synthetic drug manufacturer?
since you don't take drugs yourself and the sale infact did go ahead, is there any feeling of "conflict of ideals" or happy with the money grab!

if you could sort these questions out for me in a non-trolling manner, it would help me appreciate and understand your posts a little bit better


No proper answer to this yet
RoyStuart
RoyStuart
532 posts
532 posts
2 Feb 2015 3:09pm
I told you once, can't you read?
Macaha
Macaha
QLD
21982 posts
QLD, 21982 posts
2 Feb 2015 5:34pm
I get it now






surferstu
surferstu
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1011 posts
2 Feb 2015 3:59pm



wavemaniac
wavemaniac
471 posts
471 posts
2 Feb 2015 6:41pm
."'lets see the evidence"

Surf Broker the courts out on this one.....the evidence has gone missing

24 footers are hard to hide, but hes done it somehow
DARTH
DARTH
WA
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2 Feb 2015 7:36pm
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