LAZZA1964 said...

PTWoody said...

Piros said...
I reckon over 40's is a fair call , we still don't have the depth for the 45's or 50.

It maybe a chicken and egg argument - or if you build it, they will come.

My own sense is that unless you have 8 serious competitors in a division, then you don't really have a valid division. There has to at least be the requirement to earn your way into a final rather than just walk in to a 4 person final.

Totally agree, the numbers are not there!
I am 48 and racing on a 12'6 during this years flat water series when most in contention used 14' in the over 45 division,( if thats not a handicap i don't know what is) bit like bringing a knife to a gun fight, but overall i did not think it made much difference because the best paddlers consistently prevailed in placing and times, in every race held this year. Best example is Cam Hosking who is in his early 40's he is smashing guys 20 years younger, on anything he rides!
The morale of this story is if you want to be competitive train harder and drink a concrete smoothie!

Cheers Leon.

Maaaaaaate
Thats forty eight hobbit years which means in real time youre barely out of nappies and I reckon if I sculled a slab of coke before brekkie, like you, I'd be pulling evryones pants down paddleing Kristi's DC seven ten. Concrete smoothie indeed! Harumph!!
Cheers
Sparx

Hey Lacey I agree and I agree that blueDC 8/7 best board I have ever ridden 3 to 5 foot lefts and rights had to fight dale to give it up Alan was ripping on the 9/0 too thanks for giving her up
Here the new one on the cutting table next week
Bet you carnt weight / the 14 DW smashed it in the flat today as well

Drum roll,so is it a keeper lacey

laceys lane said...

i believe when you hit 45 you are in decline no matter how good and fit you are. all you can do is try to slow it down


there is a big difference racing a 40 year old when you are 50- pound for pound and equal ability wise

So if 45 is some sort of tipping point, and if it is true that we don't have the numbers to justify both a 40+ and a 50+ division, would you think 45+ should be the Masters division for both surf and race?

PTWoody said...

laceys lane said...

i believe when you hit 45 you are in decline no matter how good and fit you are. all you can do is try to slow it down


there is a big difference racing a 40 year old when you are 50- pound for pound and equal ability wise

So if 45 is some sort of tipping point, and if it is true that we don't have the numbers to justify both a 40+ and a 50+ division, would you think 45+ should be the Masters division for both surf and race?

yeah, i think that would be a good thing. the twelve towers race had a over fifties master class which was great

PTSUP said...


Mooloolaba Masters and Senior Masters OC6 regularly beat open crews,just an observation.

ha, i knew someone would break out something like this.

PT moving the goals posts to exclude Camo, well he's in the super elite group, may also have to include yourself and Wooz also ... but the best solution is keep it simple, do the decade principle, 40's, 50's and sheesh 60's, I think there may be more joining up to participate in the 50's if they knew they were in amongst those of a similiar age.

But I get the feeling all the talk will be like pissing in the wind, are those in position of authority within the Sports Governing organizations going to "listen to the people"? ...it would be nice to think a that a change can be initiated given the "newness" of the sport, it may just come down to money as it may be another $500 or even $750 to stage another category at State Level? Hardly a king's ransom...

Anyway,less talk more action, there is enough time to get it organized for 2013.

ockanui said...

But I get the feeling all the talk will be like pissing in the wind, are those in position of authority within the Sports Governing organizations going to "listen to the people"? ...it would be nice to think a that a change can be initiated given the "newness" of the sport, it may just come down to money as it may be another $500 or even $750 to stage another category at State Level? Hardly a king's ransom...

It's probably time as much as it is money, but then again, time is money.

The racing is not so much of an issue when it comes to introducing extra categories so far as I can see but the surfing could well be a right royal pain in the arse for the organisers, officials and volunteers. A category with 8 competitors would probably add another 90 minutes to the day. Perhaps if the 50 plus crew agreed not to also enter the 40 plus category, that would recover some of the time.

When I was 35ish my friends and I said will we be doing this when we are 40?

Well since then as we (my generation) are in the very lucky generation we - me now 65 having taken up SUP and Longboarding having moved on from short boards to surf skis then to wind surfing for 25 yrs then 10 yrs of kite surfing and still into it love all my main motivation being progression and new gear - I still keep learning and improving all but slowly. I am at the best average but it works for me.