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Akela - Jutson 40 for sale

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Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
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Bundeenabuoy Bundeenabuoy
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13 Jun 2019 5:36am
Currently Cat 7, and a daysailor
What would be my limitations regarding offshore racing?
Would I have to make any structural changes

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/jutson-40-race-yacht-sports-yacht/231056
boty
boty
QLD
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boty boty
QLD, 685 posts
13 Jun 2019 7:51am
looks great value for money if going offshore cockpit volume will be an issue with companion way low and would need to check volume against drain sizes check blue book also check bilge system
Chris249
Chris249
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Chris249 Chris249
357 posts
13 Jun 2019 8:52am
I don't like to say it publicly, but it's never seemed to go as well as it should. For example, in recent twilights it's handicapped slower than Cavalier 350s
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
Bundeenabuoy Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
13 Jun 2019 12:33pm
Chris249 said..
I don't like to say it publicly, but it's never seemed to go as well as it should. For example, in recent twilights it's handicapped slower than Cavalier 350s


Good of you to say so
I thought the same, but I have a hunch it may have been the crew.
Chris249
Chris249
357 posts
Chris249 Chris249
357 posts
13 Jun 2019 1:08pm
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
Bundeenabuoy Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Jun 2019 6:11am
Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.


I am taking on board what you are saying.
I see Akela won its race (Div 1 Spin) in the 1978 Australia Day Regatta?
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7752 posts
Ramona Ramona
NSW, 7752 posts
14 Jun 2019 7:57am
Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.



I am taking on board what you are saying.
I see Akela won its race (Div 1 Spin) in the 1978 Australia Day Regatta?


Launched in 1991!
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
Bundeenabuoy Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Jun 2019 10:47am
Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..


Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.




I am taking on board what you are saying.
I see Akela won its race (Div 1 Spin) in the 1978 Australia Day Regatta?



Launched in 1991!


Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.
fishmonkey
fishmonkey
NSW
494 posts
fishmonkey fishmonkey
NSW, 494 posts
14 Jun 2019 12:05pm
Bundeenabuoy said..

Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.


I see Akela won its race (Div 1 Spin) in the 1978 Australia Day Regatta?


Launched in 1991!


Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?


it would make it a bit of a feat winning a race in 1978!
Cav30
Cav30
NSW
122 posts
Cav30 Cav30
NSW, 122 posts
14 Jun 2019 1:18pm
I've seen this boat at CYC and often wondered if engulfed in large wave where all the water would go. The cockpit looks low in the water. Is there drainage?

My 2c worth
Ed
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
Bundeenabuoy Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Jun 2019 3:45pm
fishmonkey said..

Bundeenabuoy said..


Ramona said..


Bundeenabuoy said..


Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.



I see Akela won its race (Div 1 Spin) in the 1978 Australia Day Regatta?



Launched in 1991!



Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?



it would make it a bit of a feat winning a race in 1978!


2018, sorry
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
Bundeenabuoy Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Jun 2019 3:47pm
Cav30 said..
I've seen this boat at CYC and often wondered if engulfed in large wave where all the water would go. The cockpit looks low in the water. Is there drainage?

My 2c worth
Ed



It does have four electric and two manual bilge pumps
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
Bundeenabuoy Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Jun 2019 4:01pm
Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.



In last years CYCA Winter Series, Akela came fourth, four points behind the winner Scarlet O'hara, so I am thinking with a good crew they may do well?
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
Bundeenabuoy Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Jun 2019 4:08pm
Cav30 said..
I've seen this boat at CYC and often wondered if engulfed in large wave where all the water would go. The cockpit looks low in the water. Is there drainage?

My 2c worth
Ed


I haven't considered what upgrades would be necessary to race offshore?
Any ideas?
troubadour
troubadour
NSW
335 posts
troubadour troubadour
NSW, 335 posts
14 Jun 2019 4:16pm
A lot?? That cockpit is an issue.
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
7752 posts
Ramona Ramona
NSW, 7752 posts
14 Jun 2019 5:48pm
Bundeenabuoy said..




Launched in 1991!



Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.


Certainly a lot of boat for the money and I reckon it would be the ideal harbour racer. If I had a crew and wanted to race offshore I would look at something like this that's designed for offshore racing with a crew.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dubois-40-huge-potential-at-a-bargain-price/232292
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
Bundeenabuoy Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Jun 2019 7:02pm
Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..





Launched in 1991!




Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.



Certainly a lot of boat for the money and I reckon it would be the ideal harbour racer. If I had a crew and wanted to race offshore I would look at something like this that's designed for offshore racing with a crew.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dubois-40-huge-potential-at-a-bargain-price/232292


I think the best you have ever found for us, and fast too.
SandS
SandS
VIC
5904 posts
SandS SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
14 Jun 2019 7:11pm
Does the cockpit self drain ? If yes i think the blue blue book has a ratio for size of drain holes compared to cockpit volume . I would **** my pants if a green one landed in that cockpit .
great buy to race in the harbor
Ramona is right the dubois is the go for a budget off shore racer / and double as short term a cruiser
Jethrow
Jethrow
NSW
1282 posts
Jethrow Jethrow
NSW, 1282 posts
14 Jun 2019 7:21pm
Yeah, even with cockpit drains the appropriate size, there's also rules about how low the companionway can be and accessing the cabin from inside and out to consider.
Bananabender
Bananabender
QLD
1610 posts
Bananabender Bananabender
QLD, 1610 posts
14 Jun 2019 7:25pm
Ramona said..

Bundeenabuoy said..





Launched in 1991!




Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.



Certainly a lot of boat for the money and I reckon it would be the ideal harbour racer. If I had a crew and wanted to race offshore I would look at something like this that's designed for offshore racing with a crew.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dubois-40-huge-potential-at-a-bargain-price/232292

Last time I saw her she was BLACK .
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
Bundeenabuoy Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Jun 2019 7:37pm
SandS said..
Does the cockpit self drain ? If yes i think the blue blue book has a ratio for size of drain holes compared to cockpit volume . I would **** my pants if a green one landed in that cockpit .
great buy to race in the harbor
Ramona is right the dubois is the go for a budget off shore racer / and double as short term a cruiser


Harbour racing is mostly what I plan to do with it.
The rest was speculation.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
Bundeenabuoy Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
14 Jun 2019 7:37pm
Bananabender said..

Ramona said..


Bundeenabuoy said..






Launched in 1991!





Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.




Certainly a lot of boat for the money and I reckon it would be the ideal harbour racer. If I had a crew and wanted to race offshore I would look at something like this that's designed for offshore racing with a crew.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dubois-40-huge-potential-at-a-bargain-price/232292


Last time I saw her she was BLACK .


In Queensland?
Bananabender
Bananabender
QLD
1610 posts
Bananabender Bananabender
QLD, 1610 posts
14 Jun 2019 8:08pm
Bundeenabuoy said..

Bananabender said..


Ramona said..



Bundeenabuoy said..







Launched in 1991!






Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.





Certainly a lot of boat for the money and I reckon it would be the ideal harbour racer. If I had a crew and wanted to race offshore I would look at something like this that's designed for offshore racing with a crew.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dubois-40-huge-potential-at-a-bargain-price/232292



Last time I saw her she was BLACK .



In Queensland?


No mate ,Melb. I was on her just after her launching . Funny could have sworn timber mouldings below were laminated but see that she was totally stripped inside and out and repainted a few years back.
www.sail-world.com/Australia/Festival-of-Sails--Southern-Black-Magic-heading-to-Geelong/-128894




All@Sea
All@Sea
TAS
233 posts
All@Sea All@Sea
TAS, 233 posts
14 Jun 2019 8:53pm
Bananabender said..

Ramona said..


Bundeenabuoy said..






Launched in 1991!





Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.




Certainly a lot of boat for the money and I reckon it would be the ideal harbour racer. If I had a crew and wanted to race offshore I would look at something like this that's designed for offshore racing with a crew.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dubois-40-huge-potential-at-a-bargain-price/232292


Last time I saw her she was BLACK .


It isn't (or doesn't feel like) that long since she was painted. They stripped her right back for a refurb, and after much deliberation decided that she looked better in white. Powerful boat, especially upwind, with about the same performance +/- as a Northshore 38. Well cared for, with good (from what I've seen racing against her) sails.
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
Bundeenabuoy Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
15 Jun 2019 1:23pm
Thank you for all that info
Much appreciated
Bundeenabuoy
Bundeenabuoy
NSW
1239 posts
Bundeenabuoy Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
15 Jun 2019 1:25pm
Bananabender said..

Bundeenabuoy said..


Bananabender said..



Ramona said..




Bundeenabuoy said..








Launched in 1991!







Hi Ramona,
I am seriously considering this, so looking for any issues you can see.
Were you making a point with the1991 launch date?
I am keen to know the weight as I would have to update my mooring.






Certainly a lot of boat for the money and I reckon it would be the ideal harbour racer. If I had a crew and wanted to race offshore I would look at something like this that's designed for offshore racing with a crew.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/dubois-40-huge-potential-at-a-bargain-price/232292




Last time I saw her she was BLACK .




In Queensland?



No mate ,Melb. I was on her just after her launching . Funny could have sworn timber mouldings below were laminated but see that she was totally stripped inside and out and repainted a few years back.
www.sail-world.com/Australia/Festival-of-Sails--Southern-Black-Magic-heading-to-Geelong/-128894





Thats great
Thank you
Much appreciated
rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
824 posts
rumblefish rumblefish
TAS, 824 posts
15 Jun 2019 4:40pm
Two things...

IMHO Jutson designed more dogs than not, the boat would want a pretty hot racing record for me to look at seriously!
Secondly, if you'd like me to have a closer look at the Dubuios 40, PM me :))
Donk107
Donk107
TAS
2446 posts
Donk107 Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
15 Jun 2019 5:28pm
How about this for harbour racing in Sydney
www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/fred-barrett-richardson-11m-a-real-weapon-performance-plus/230068
Built in 2015 and the build and fit out cost would far exceed the asking price and definitely no issues with cockpit drains

Regards Don





Ramona
Ramona
NSW
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Ramona Ramona
NSW, 7752 posts
15 Jun 2019 5:50pm
Donk107 said..
How about this for harbour racing in Sydney
www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/fred-barrett-richardson-11m-a-real-weapon-performance-plus/230068
Built in 2015 and the build and fit out cost would far exceed the asking price and definitely no issues with cockpit drains

Regards Don






Shame it's so ugly! Parked next to that Defiance does not help either.
Donk107
Donk107
TAS
2446 posts
Donk107 Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
15 Jun 2019 6:19pm
Ramona said..

Donk107 said..
How about this for harbour racing in Sydney
www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/fred-barrett-richardson-11m-a-real-weapon-performance-plus/230068
Built in 2015 and the build and fit out cost would far exceed the asking price and definitely no issues with cockpit drains

Regards Don






Shame it's so ugly! Parked next to that Defiance does not help either.


Hi Ramona

In the flesh i wouldn't call it ugly just different

Regards Don
Chris 249
Chris 249
NSW
3570 posts
Chris 249 Chris 249
NSW, 3570 posts
15 Jun 2019 6:26pm
Bundeenabuoy said..

Chris249 said..
That is (to put it delicately) a fair point, but I think she had similar results under a previous owner.




In last years CYCA Winter Series, Akela came fourth, four points behind the winner Scarlet O'hara, so I am thinking with a good crew they may do well?


Yes but that's on arbitrary handicap. It has zero relationship to being a fast boat or well sailed , just as I could beat tiger woods if gave me a big enough handicap but it would not show that I was a better player or had good clubs. It's a simple system in which a boat or crews quality are irrelevant
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