Gorgo said..

Woott said..

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...For now i stick to a bit more action

Such as?

sucking down beers with your mate shane towers rather then bloody flying ya slacker gorgo

jamesperth said..

Underoath said...
Foiling is the modern day golf.

I'll give it a go when my knees are cactus.

Foiling is way more fun than golf :) think of it like this - do I want to double / triple my days on the water ?

If not, that's cool. Play golf. Otherwise get on board.

What foilz are you recommending for beginners James?

Slingshot have a great foil program this year, saw them on the goldy yesterday. Their foil program is designed around learning fast and safely. The "Hover Glide" model comes a full length mast at $1209, but you can purchase 3 shorter masts for a very low price $259, 15", 24"and 30" They are plate mount, and the SS range of foil boards start from $999
The idea is to start with a short mast and learn the basics of foil control, as you gain skills and confidence increase the mast length. Seems like a really great way to learn, but I have not tried this short mast method. From what I'm hearing though it is very easy and fast to learn.

The one thing I've noticed about full length foils is that they make a very skilled kiter look like a complete newbie, and I've seen many people have a go and then declare yeahnah its not for them.

pretty sure i said i have flown one ?!?!
and they yaw like absolute pieces of ****. and no i wont be surprised if you dont understand what that means or why that would matter because your probably a kook
if you want a kite that decorates coral heads like a christmas tree and does its best to replicate the slithers of tinsel in minutes then by all means buy one.
the design of the kite makes this almost its goal.

if i wanted to design a kite that would kill itself i would design a strutless kite. its that simple.

the 1 strut kites fixed half of these issues.

why would you buy a kite with glareingly obvious issues like this that have been fixed by the simple addage of 1 strut which doesnt add hardly any weight?!?!

have you ever seen what happens to a cloud as it skims past a pandanus tree? its ****ing incredible, gives rice paper lanterns a run for there money in the durability department.

did i mention it yaws like a short leg syndrome d hooker whose just copped on and is on the nod forever twisting and turning doing absolute wonders for its flight characteristics washing off lift with every twist which looses power.

but what the ****!?!? who cares?!?! i mean thats only the entire purpose of what a KITE IS.

dave your trying to spruke about a kite youve never flown because you have read some testimonials on there website. honestly mate pull your head in your makeing an ass of yourself


air in the canopy?!?! skill?!?!

you think there is any amount of skill in flying a kitesurfing kite compared to a stunt kite?

dyyylan said...
Yes I totally recommend the slingshot flight school, i only bought the 2 smaller masts (in addition to the regular hover glide) and it made learning very very easy since there are no consequences really for overfoiling and doing "the dolphin". in the 4 hours i spent my first good session out with them i fell probably like 5 times only.

Speaking as a beginner Foileur with very recent experience of the nose dive crashing phase.
It seems that phase is only an hour or so of the learning curve and having plenty of nose rocker
In the board greatly helps.
Also I have found that having room to rise gives you time to get balanced and control the height.
It is the foil ventilating when it breaks surface that causes the nose dive crash.
As for short masts! I think a slightly shorter mast may have advantages in shallower water but with the smaller room for ventilating you maybe need even more experience.

kiteboy dave said..




I also fly a 4 line Rev and can do all the basic tricks. I think there's skill in all forms of kite flying including kitesurfing kites. If not, what is learning launching, flying, parking, looping, water relaunch, etc about?

revs are laaaaame

if you think a kiteloop or any of those basic kite controls in kitesurfing is a trick im concerned about your slackline stunt kite flying.

where did i say i had one go and put it in a tree? first you say i put it in coral then you say i put it in a tree?!? these are scenarios ive had to help punters out with while flogging them off and before i sell them i fly them much like peter string fellow. ive flown alot of kites ive sold alot of kites

you can keep trying to pick around the fat and bones that zero strut inflated leading edge kites are terrible kites with terrible longevity durability and flight characteristics that make it worse then nearly every other inflated kite ever made.

and no matter what my kiting history thats not going to change. your trying to stand up for the reliant robin without ever having to have driven one around a corner.



the basic principal of the design simply does not work even if you can get someone with alot of experience on one to make it look good a few seconds at a time. its still far worse then every other car made

finished yet?

simple effective design is the cornerstone of everything that lasts and stands the test of time.

but a kite that gets destroyed and washes off lift with every turn is not effective simple design.

i wish we could just remove engines and wheels from things and they would drive just as well but they dont.


BAR WISE

holly **** i thought we finally all figured it out last year and we all decided on a simple universal push away qr pu coated clam cleat with ZERO bar length adjustment **** design as the ultimate light weight structurally strong design. but hay sounds like the boffins figured out how to double the price and add more ****. but im sure as hell there was some other guy just like me with a different name saying the same damn **** 10 years ago saying god damn it we finally cracked it the ultimate bar last year. we even ****ed off the chicken finger for freestylers (not something i felt comfortable with but understand)

man... misses lifting weights while using an indo board infront of me in her unmentionables lost train of thought

Kozzie said..
simple effective design is the cornerstone of everything that lasts and stands the test of time.

Nice.

Motherhood statement.

What else ya got ?

lol.

El Stubbo too

shinnworld.com/

Looks like he's gone with Zeeko Alloys.

I have a Cloud 14.5. It packs down to travel and weighs less than my 7 Reo. It is an amazing kite. Is it for everyone? NO! Would I teach my students on them? NO!. That said, they are amazing. They are stable, fast and launch as easy as any kite I have owned. It just requires a slightly different technique. I love traveling with that kite as it opens loads of options when the wind is light. With a foil it is an awesome combo. Last summer I got on the foils and then built myself a Paipo and ride the foil strapless. There is a beauty about cruising around our bay in light wind and hitting some outrageous angles up wind that allows me to explore on days when I would be literally mowing my lawn at home. The peaceful noise of hearing the mast vibrate and the lines cutting through the wind and nothing else is rewarding, such a smooth ride. Going downwind and chasing swells with no effort from the kite is also pretty sweet. I do however prefer 6 to 8 foot surf with 25 knots of side or cross on wind. That is my favorite kiting conditions. But any time on the water is good for my soul. There is no BEST this or BEST that. Ride what works for you and just enjoy life. It's mighty short...

Kozzie said...
and they yaw like absolute pieces of ****.

did i mention it yaws like a short leg syndrome d hooker whose just copped on and is on the nod forever twisting and turning doing absolute wonders for its flight characteristics washing off lift with every twist which looses

I had to go and look up yaw....

The kites flutter when de-powered but the C2 and ".5" Clouds don't yaw. Never tried the C1.