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Shan
Shan
WA
129 posts
WA, 129 posts
13 Sep 2011 11:43am
Hey does anyone know if / when the red bull rotto race is on?

Cheers

Shan
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4103 posts
QLD, 4103 posts
13 Sep 2011 2:41pm
3rd of December, was announced at the WAKSA AGM.
Jr Walks
Jr Walks
WA
284 posts
WA, 284 posts
13 Sep 2011 5:22pm
Under 18's allowed to participate?
default
default
WA
1255 posts
WA, 1255 posts
13 Sep 2011 5:36pm
what? all 3 of you?
picker
picker
VIC
431 posts
VIC, 431 posts
14 Sep 2011 11:03pm
Just booked flights to perth!

Im' doing it entry or not x
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
15 Sep 2011 3:27am
picker said...

Just booked flights to perth!

Im' doing it entry or not x


Me to Picker......

NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
15 Sep 2011 6:36am
Nice one Picker, why don't you come over hear and ignore the rest of the rules we have in place aswell to give kiters a bad name! Rules are there for keeping kiting at our beaches and the race numbers are limited to ensure the event is manageable and keeps going.
Maybe make a contingency plan or cancel your ticket
Jr Walks
Jr Walks
WA
284 posts
WA, 284 posts
15 Sep 2011 8:07am
Jr Walks said...

Under 18's allowed to participate?


Bump
picker
picker
VIC
431 posts
VIC, 431 posts
18 Sep 2011 7:56pm
Hook, line and sinker...

seriously tho. who's stopping a few extra from doing the run?
just like a few extra that join a marathon for the fun of it.
sure it happened last year. pretty **y that only a few get to do it and a ton miss out.

who's keeping it honest and letting everyone have a fair chance of entering, v's hooking your mates up?? just so happened i was only the island at the time, missed the ferry and decided to kite back.

picker
picker
VIC
431 posts
VIC, 431 posts
18 Sep 2011 7:58pm
"ignore the rest of the rules we have in place aswell to give kiters a bad name!"

thought you could kite with swimmers, and dump garbage at the beach.. thats cool hey??

jokes dude
wdric
wdric
NSW
1625 posts
NSW, 1625 posts
18 Sep 2011 8:02pm
Would be good if waska get the entry list happening soooooner rather than later so Guys like picker and me coming from the east can plan and book flights etc
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
18 Sep 2011 8:46pm
AKSonline
AKSonline
WA
925 posts
WA, 925 posts
18 Sep 2011 9:07pm
Hey y'all,

I ain't entering coz I've done my fair share of racing and competition and reckon others can have a go. My thoughts are that if you are doing it just to say you have done it and have no intention of seriously racing, then you shouldn't be entering. It's a RACE, if you aren't there to give it a good rattle and you displace someone who is keen to race, then that's p1ss poor IMHO.

I know a heap of peeps did it last year and had no intention on keeping the pedal to the metal. Strapless surfboards FFS?

Be a bit fair and let the racers race. A good idea would be to run a qualifying series. Top 20 finishers from last year get automatic entry. Everyone else fights it out over three short simple races in the lead up. If there aren't enough people willing to race and fill all the positions, then open it to the random social punters.

DM
Weta
Weta
WA
893 posts
WA, 893 posts
19 Sep 2011 8:44am
Have 2 runs the first for the racers and 30 minutes later a second group who just want to do the run..............would take extra work and need extra support boats but would keep alot of people happy.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
19 Sep 2011 9:43pm
as discussed in the other forum, any thought given to windsurfers in the race?
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
19 Sep 2011 11:55pm
Weta said...

Have 2 runs the first for the racers and 30 minutes later a second group who just want to do the run..............would take extra work and need extra support boats but would keep alot of people happy.


This seriously needs to be considered...

Id cut off my little pinky to get a shot at this race.

30knots + 12m Powered Kite + Strapped Surf Board.

THE FRENCH MAN CAN USE SOME ****TY 10 FOOT WINDSURFING BOARD WITH METAL FINS! THIS YEAR HE IS GOING DOWN, LIKE A BUCKET OF FROGS LEGS!


Addikt
Addikt
WA
553 posts
WA, 553 posts
19 Sep 2011 10:48pm
AKSonline said...

Hey y'all,

I ain't entering coz I've done my fair share of racing and competition and reckon others can have a go. My thoughts are that if you are doing it just to say you have done it and have no intention of seriously racing, then you shouldn't be entering. It's a RACE, if you aren't there to give it a good rattle and you displace someone who is keen to race, then that's p1ss poor IMHO.

I know a heap of peeps did it last year and had no intention on keeping the pedal to the metal. Strapless surfboards FFS?

Be a bit fair and let the racers race. A good idea would be to run a qualifying series. Top 20 finishers from last year get automatic entry. Everyone else fights it out over three short simple races in the lead up. If there aren't enough people willing to race and fill all the positions, then open it to the random social punters.

DM


Darens got a point here maybe we need to have a fun event after the main race for the guys who just want to "do it" I know we don't want to have a bunch of noobs getting rescued halfway? Perhaps a have a few downwinders as a requirement to qualify weed out the serious contenders......?
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
20 Sep 2011 12:58am


noobs crossing ....



INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
QLD
1855 posts
QLD, 1855 posts
20 Sep 2011 9:21am
3rd of dec isnt that clashing with PKRA Gold Coast?
if so that would suck- its not to hard to check the few kite events in OZ and make sure they dont clash
HBBear
HBBear
56 posts
56 posts
20 Sep 2011 8:56am
quote "if so that would suck- its not to hard to check the few kite events in OZ and make sure they dont clash"

Exactly - you'd think that the muppets organising the PKRA would do their research...
LouD
LouD
WA
642 posts
WA, 642 posts
20 Sep 2011 12:47pm
Mark _australia said...

as discussed in the other forum, any thought given to windsurfers in the race?


Yep, as soon as you let us back into the Lto L.

Grommit
Grommit
WA
34 posts
WA, 34 posts
20 Sep 2011 12:51pm
Yeh are under 18s aloud in
hamburglar
hamburglar
ACT
2174 posts
ACT, 2174 posts
20 Sep 2011 3:51pm
Mark _australia said...

as discussed in the other forum, any thought given to windsurfers in the race?




richswing
richswing
WA
724 posts
WA, 724 posts
20 Sep 2011 3:29pm
I am sorry , I disagree that the Pro's should only race, it is the nature of racing to have element that can disrupt your progress to GLORY . Tough cookie if some pleb in front of you beats you on his strapless board or wipes out in front and hinders your progress.

For myself, I like to race/do sport for my own gratification, I don't care about winning but more on competing and enjoying myself. That does not mean I am not competitive.

I reckon to keep the "pro's" happy they should have batches that start a couple of minutes apart, it does not change much in regards to logistics other than the race is stretched a bit longer and the rescue boats are on the water for longer. Maybe the longer time will be beneficial to the sponsors and to the vibe of the occasion.

Cheers
Rich
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
20 Sep 2011 4:05pm
HBBear said...

quote "if so that would suck- its not to hard to check the few kite events in OZ and make sure they dont clash"

Exactly - you'd think that the muppets organising the PKRA would do their research...


Yeah man, damn those people that have to organise a whole years tour schedule in advance across multiple countries, really what are they thinking putting it the same time as this thing?... how rude of them.
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
20 Sep 2011 6:38pm
Ok, so it's race day. A ripping 32knots! Woo hoo!

Would any one be considering using an 11m or 12m? As opposed to an 8m?
(I'm 80kg)..... Id be flying like white on rice!

I think it would be a good strategy to be over powered. If **** hits the fan- depower. My only concern is getting too far infront of the Frenchman and seeing him go home in tears.
wdric
wdric
NSW
1625 posts
NSW, 1625 posts
20 Sep 2011 8:27pm
HBBear said...

quote "if so that would suck- its not to hard to check the few kite events in OZ and make sure they dont clash"

Exactly - you'd think that the muppets organising the PKRA would do their research...


The PKRA event was on last year on the same week as it is this year.
I think you will find the dates were public for the pkra event loooong before the WA roto race was announced.
The PKRA dates also announced this year looong before the roto race dates made public.
These dates were pointed out to the WA commitee about 1 month before they announced the event this year.
I think you will also find they have bought the roto race forward 1 week compared to last year?
HBBear
HBBear
56 posts
56 posts
20 Sep 2011 6:58pm
boo hoo you bunch of sooks....

Life's about making decisions. Pick one event, commit to that & be happy in your decision.

Can you imagine just how many events would happen if everyone got asked if date a particular date suited them??? No, that's mum's birthday...that's the gf's birthday...that's granddad's anniversary...no, Saturday's no good because....blah blah blah....Nothing would ever happen.

Sometimes people just miss out on an event & have to accept that sh!t happens.

diginoz
diginoz
WA
317 posts
WA, 317 posts
20 Sep 2011 7:20pm
Kitestock is also double booked with the new tv cop show CSI in NSW that weekend. B'''ER
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
20 Sep 2011 7:59pm
AKSonline said...

Hey y'all,

I ain't entering coz I've done my fair share of racing and competition and reckon others can have a go. My thoughts are that if you are doing it just to say you have done it and have no intention of seriously racing, then you shouldn't be entering. It's a RACE, if you aren't there to give it a good rattle and you displace someone who is keen to race, then that's p1ss poor IMHO.

I know a heap of peeps did it last year and had no intention on keeping the pedal to the metal. Strapless surfboards FFS?

Be a bit fair and let the racers race
A good idea would be to run a qualifying series. Top 20 finishers from last year get automatic entry. Everyone else fights it out over three short simple races in the lead up. If there aren't enough people willing to race and fill all the positions, then open it to the random social punters.

DM


Since only two of us did it strapless last year and I was one of them I just thought I would tell my side of the story, because I cant help but feel that (although probably not intentionally) this statement is directed at me.
I had hardly touched a TT for months before this race, I almost exclusively rode a strapless surfboard and I had just recently snapped my strapped surfboard. I would have loved to have had time to organise a decent strapped directional board and had thought about getting stick on pads and straps for a gunny 6'8" surfboard that I had.
However we were only notified fairly close to the event that we were in it and conditions weren't much good for experimenting leading up to the event. I had a couple of goes at trying to goes fast on a TT and kept nosediving it etc. Next I screwed some straps into my board that I usually rode strapless but found that the strap position was to far back and the board was bogging down. With limited time to modify or buy/borrow and get used to a new board I decided to just go with what I knew. I still believe that under the circumstances I would not have been able to do any better riding something that I was not familiar with.

I had full intentions of keeping the pedal to the metal, finished in 33 minutes, well and truly in the front half of the pack and in front of a lot of 'serious racers'.
Yes I know that realistically I had next to buckleys of being competitive with the top few but would have been interested to see what would have happened if the wind had of gone a bit more SE as it had threatened to because a strapless surfboard can generally go upwind better than a strapped one or a TT.
Rant over.
richswing
richswing
WA
724 posts
WA, 724 posts
20 Sep 2011 8:45pm
Hey Tightlines,

Good on you, why the hell not. The guys on race boards are cheating anyway.

If I could cut the mustard I was considering an Aliaia board, strapless of course.

Freedom to use any board.

Cheers
Rich
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