How to Judge windsurfer speed/angle in the waves

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Poida
Poida
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3 Sep 2012 2:27pm
Sounds like windsurfer has a few anger management issues
If you haven't overtaken upwind of him, you were the first on the wave that is now breaking , and he then scoots over the white water to get on the inside. His problem to get over.
I wouldn't worry there were 50 surfers at a metro break I went to yesterday, with o/h waves and the number of drop ins and alleged droppins and general carnage when the sets came through was all par for the course.
waveslave
waveslave
WA
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WA, 4263 posts
3 Sep 2012 3:08pm
Chris6791 said...


On a quieter day I don't see a problem with a kiter sneaking into the line-up and occupying the wave between two poleys, but only if it doesn't interfere with the next poley on his run in.




(Byron Bay)

While the dancers are doing the tango out in the shipping channel,
I often short-tack through the zone,
and pick up a stray inside peeler.

Letting a wave go unridden is unforgiveable.
VB MAN
VB MAN
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1156 posts
3 Sep 2012 4:44pm
Yeah but where are you in this pic mister slave ?
bobajob
bobajob
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3 Sep 2012 6:51pm
VB MAN said...

Yeah but where are you in this pic mister slave ?


He's so deep he's unseen
bobajob
bobajob
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3 Sep 2012 6:54pm
Chris6791 said...

Surfers might have squatters rights over the term 'line-up' Waveslave, but by the sounds of it it's anything but. Sounds like every man, woman and child for themselves. Poleys and kiters line up (well most of the time) where necessary, it seems like a much more pleasurable way of sharing a particular break or a bit or precious flat water.


Sorry, I always thought it referred to the waves lining up, one after the other, cordoroy to the horizon
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
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3 Sep 2012 7:41pm
bobajob said...

VB MAN said...

Yeah but where are you in this pic mister slave ?


He's so deep he's unseen


He's chasing his run away kite along the beach cause he dosent use a safety leashLOL
beer pig
beer pig
WA
118 posts
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3 Sep 2012 5:56pm
hey seppo one of mates just called me up and said some tool is talking **** about you on the kite forum lets set it straight i was sitting on the swell waiting for it to start to break then tooleeoo sails straight out and gybes on it up wind of me so i tell him to 'uck off then he sails over to me and ask what i said and i tell him i said ;uck off then that was it . so next time iam down the beach i will ask my mates to point you out seppo we can discuyss it more if you like
bobajob
bobajob
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3 Sep 2012 8:11pm
Hey, come on down every one, a bit of stink brewing on the breeze!
eppo
eppo
WA
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3 Sep 2012 6:31pm
beer pig said...

hey seppo one of mates just called me up and said some tool is talking **** about you on the kite forum lets set it straight i was sitting on the swell waiting for it to start to break then tooleeoo sails straight out and gybes on it up wind of me so i tell him to 'uck off then he sails over to me and ask what i said and i tell him i said ;uck off then that was it . so next time iam down the beach i will ask my mates to point you out seppo we can discuyss it more if you like



Actually I wasnt talking sh1t about you at all, infact I have been trying to find out more about about wind surfing so I don't do the wrong thing next time. I think everyone here can vouch for that.

Yeh man i got no probs having a chat with ya, but I'd suspect a more civil tone from you than what I experienced in the surf. I'm trying to learn, hopefully you are as well.


lotofwind
lotofwind
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3 Sep 2012 9:29pm
I have enough popcorn for everyone.
Sorry,please continue.

Carantoc
Carantoc
WA
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3 Sep 2012 7:59pm
The other day I was walking down St Georges Terrace, it was pretty busy so I was keeping to the left of the pavement, then suddenly I was on a direct collision course with Rina Ginehart*, who was walking slowly towards me.

I shimmied left, but not enough and as we passed I may have touched her sleeve with my man-bag. She turned around and said 'f-off you peasant scum', I bowed my head and replied 'I am sorry m'lady, but I couldn't moved more because that bus would have run me over' , when she told me to f-off again and that I should have jumped under the bus, or laid down so she could walk on me and not scuff the soles of her shoes.

Now, I realise I may have been in the wrong, but how do you tell what angle and speed over-weight rich people are going to move across the pavement ??







(* disclaimer - the name Rina Gienhart has been picked at random, the true identity of the person is unknown)
eppo
eppo
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3 Sep 2012 8:05pm
Classic. Nah I'm sure this fella is a good bloke deep down and we will meet one day and have a laugh about it.

The whole purpose of this post was for me to try and learn the reasons why I dropped in unintentionally, I now know the mechanical reasons why. Didn't enjoy the gob full, nor did I think it was necessary, but hey we all get pissed when someone drops in.
PRAWNDOG
PRAWNDOG
WA
306 posts
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3 Sep 2012 8:27pm
People are going to drop in and get in each others way from time to time, Not intentionally but it happens. I'm sure the guy who got angry, got in somebody's way once or dropped in on somebody. Get over it I could understand If it was the same guy constantly dropping in on you, in a session. Sounds like it was a one of thing, so old kimbo up there needs to lighten up
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
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3 Sep 2012 9:30pm
Well I am now fkn confused. Eppo you initially said you were on a swell for a bit, then when the wave caught up to this dude who was grovelling he wanted the wave and abused you.

Now you say he was pretty much on it or at least heading in with the wave close to catching him, and you turned on it.

There is a big diff.

If you were on it for 100m and then some dude who was deliberately stalling wants to claim it he can get fkd.

BUT if a guy is obviously grovelling in cos it is a bit light and/or he is trying to keep upwind, and in 5sec time the wave will catch him and he will obviously wanna ride it, then you don't turn onto it.


Now as to Eppo's "Actually I wasnt talking sh1t about you at all, infact I have been trying to find out more about about wind surfing so I don't do the wrong thing next time. I think everyone here can vouch for that"
How the fk does he get red thumbs for that? You people are strange here.
eppo
eppo
WA
9789 posts
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3 Sep 2012 10:06pm
No I didn't gybe into it as I remember, that is what he said. We were both riding it in as I remember and I was ahead of him and upwind. So my story hasn't changed. But it is my story as I remember it. But eventually he was upwind of me and hence by definition it was his wave, due to the large speed he developed. Not sure where he got that idea.

If I had gybed in front of him onto the wave then this entire post would be pointless as this is obviously the wrong thing to do. The reason I posted this is because he suprised the hell out of me actually being there, hence wanted the info I did get.

As for the red thumbs, not sure about that either.

Anyhow anyone can see the tone of the dudes post just about sums up his verbal abuse on the water. And his suggestion to 'chat' also has aggressive tones. Makes more sense now.

Anyhow got what I need and thanks for the advice, especially yourself mark.
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
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3 Sep 2012 10:19pm
eppo said...

The whole purpose of this post was for me to try and learn the reasons why I dropped in unintentionally, I now know the mechanical reasons why.


Dude, the only reason someone drops-in unintentionally ...

would be you didn't see his position on the wave.

If you did see him, and it was a deliberate attempt to take advantage ...

that's called snaking.

We are all guilty of accidently dropping-in at some point.

But if you drop-in constantly, that's a bit rude.

lol.

Just apologize and all will be forgiven.

Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
3 Sep 2012 10:23pm
waveslave said...

But if you drop-in constantly, that's a bit rude.




Bwahahahahaha

That is the funniest sh!t I have ever seen, considering in at least a couple of right-of-way threads in the past few years you have said kiters drop in on windsurfers because they can, and that is OK cos windsurfers are slow / obsolete / blah blah.
At least be a consistent troll.

And can you please stop hitting the Enter key twice between sentences, it is like you are thinking really slowly as you type.
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
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3 Sep 2012 10:28pm
Mark _australia said...

waveslave said...

But if you drop-in constantly, that's a bit rude.




Bwahahahahah

That is the funniest sh!t I have ever seen, considering in at least a couple of right-of-way threads in the past few years you have said kiters drop in on windsurfers because they can, and that is OK cos windsurfers are slow / obsolete / blah blah.
At least be a consistent troll.


Now you are misquoting me, Markie. ^^^

That's a bit rude, too.

king of the point
king of the point
WA
1836 posts
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4 Sep 2012 4:31am
1likeBJ said...

I have also seen this before. Windsurfers are schlogging so badly that they actually use the wave to accelerate and cut hard up wind to make some extra ground before bottom turning to ride down the line. They start down wind of you but can end up right underneath or even upwind of you as you set up. Very hard to deal with as a kiter sometimes but do my best. Some poleys don't realise this either and assume because you're so upwind you're giving up the wave.


This could well be the case and a fair point,the fact that your so far up wind often creates your own confusion or(confusion for windsurfers).........why take of so far up wind that you carnt make the section and totally appear your going right not left.

Then for every other wave.... you think OK this dude might make it ,so you do the right thing, get ready to flick off . you back off, leaving it for him and watch the tool ride straight in or keep cutting right with no intrested in that wave or going left.

The other point is cuting up wind on the pollie to the A frame and smacking the **** out of it on your backhand before running down the line is a good feeling move,

But should not be at the expense of someone (anyone) upwind and able to hit the take off section.


The best thing about it all is wes can BOTH drop into a wave at such varrying distances both up wind and down wind from the A frame with a mind blowing variety of angles............got indicate intentions and communicate.......ASAP = More waves for all
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
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4 Sep 2012 8:21am
waveslave said...

Mark _australia said...

waveslave said...

But if you drop-in constantly, that's a bit rude.




Bwahahahahah

That is the funniest sh!t I have ever seen, considering in at least a couple of right-of-way threads in the past few years you have said kiters drop in on windsurfers because they can, and that is OK cos windsurfers are slow / obsolete / blah blah.
At least be a consistent troll.


Now you are misquoting me, Markie. ^^^

That's a bit rude, too.




Oh so your recent thread "what kiters say after snaking polies" is actually about, ummm, what exactly?
Every single ROW thread in the last couple of years has you spouting off about how kiters drop in cos they can.

Tool.
eppo
eppo
WA
9789 posts
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4 Sep 2012 9:15am
Just for the record I have taken waveslaves advice and sent a PM apologising for the incident that made be create this post. I consider the matter finished. I now know how the read the sail boarders run in and the fact that they will ride a swell line from a long way out, develop great speed and cut up wind at angle near the end of their journey.

Thanks for all the input and Mark, I'd just ignore King of the Point.
Hunter S
Hunter S
WA
516 posts
WA, 516 posts
4 Sep 2012 9:24am
My take on the drama

1. Understand the rules,
2. Don't be wave hog (come on we all do it sometimes)
3. Give the poor slow buggers a wave every now and then
4. Accept that everyone has bad days every now and then
5. Accept that everyone makes mistake now and then
6. Just apologize if you stuff up and take what you get
7. Accept that some blokes are just tools and aren't ever going to be happy
8. know that sometimes it just isn't clear who's wave it really is
9. Share and be happy that you got a wave.
10. Enjoy your session
dusta
dusta
WA
2940 posts
WA, 2940 posts
4 Sep 2012 11:55am
beer pig said...

hey seppo one of mates just called me up and said some tool is talking **** about you on the kite forum lets set it straight i was sitting on the swell waiting for it to start to break then tooleeoo sails straight out and gybes on it up wind of me so i tell him to 'uck off then he sails over to me and ask what i said and i tell him i said ;uck off then that was it . so next time iam down the beach i will ask my mates to point you out seppo we can discuyss it more if you like




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