Eppo
Nice to see you actually care and want to get along so no way am I gonna criticise you.
You displayed understanding in the thread way back, when you realised we use the wave to cut upwind hard, so you may not see a windsurfer downwind of you who sometimes has ROW. But I think the problem in this example was lack of wind.
If it is windy it is all easy - we all do circle work, don't make ya outside turn until you are the last one (furthest out), and everyone is stoked.
The rule has
always been first on wave owns it, and if you can't tell who was on it first (like it was simultaneous pickup ,
not just ignorance) then it is upwind/closest to peak has ROW.
The problem is if all the kiters are lit, and windsurfers are schlogging, then it is hard for the kiters to keep slowing down.
Local rules also in play here, in some proper wave places it is OK to deliberately stall for a wave, in
most others it is not. If u r talking Dutchies then I reckon it is not OK to stall for waves cos it is too busy (there is always somebody behind u so stalling is bad!) and that's why I reckon WS dude was probably in the wrong.
No easy answer when one craft is moving real slow. I say WS dude was wrong in Eppo's example.
But I also say it is wrong Eppo when you say "It is like they expect you to also sail to the horizon, when you don't need to?"
Too bad, if you can get 5 waves to our 1 you
still take turns by doing circlework. (I am talking when everyone is powered up). Do 30m runs thru the break if you want to but don't turn onto a wave if somebody has been on it from out the back for 200m.
It takes skill to pickup a GOOD set wave out the back and read it, pretty easy to snake on as it peaks just cos you can. That is the main one that sh!ts me badly, when it was a good pickup and I spotted it out deep, been on it for 30sec and just as it is peaking and I go down the line some wanker on the inside turns on it just downwind of me. Like WTF, bloke you just finished a ride 5sec ago