City of Stirling: Exclusion Zones suggested

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neilw
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7 Oct 2011 12:11pm
Wow miken, seems like you should take your own advice. Your posts seem very negative.
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7 Oct 2011 12:21pm
MikeN said...


If we keep on attacking each other, we all lose .


maybe you should have a word to your mate matt then...?
HBBear
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7 Oct 2011 12:45pm
neilw said...

Wow miken, seems like you should take your own advice. Your posts seem very negative.



As an occasional kiter at Scarborough, perhaps if kiters and poleys who don't kite/poledance at Scarborough could keep their opinions to themselves - just as WA kiters wouldn't want to stick their noses into Qld beach issues...just a thought???
neilw
neilw
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7 Oct 2011 12:52pm
Jeez, been told off by humphrey. As it's posted in general kiting, not WA kiting i don't see the problem. Was commenting on double standards of miken.
tightlines
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7 Oct 2011 1:10pm
neilw said...

Wow miken, seems like you should take your own advice. Your posts seem very negative.


MikeN doesn't post on here very often but when he does his comments always seem to me to be positive and well constructed, unlike a lot of other peoples comments.

I think you will find that Driftin deleted his comment because he realised after reading MikeN's post that it was not contributing anything positive to this thread.
waveslave
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8 Oct 2011 11:36am
Reflex Films said...

It was so much fun initially but got boring after a while.



lol. ^^^
I think the problem is there aren't any more Scarboroughs being made now.
*wink
Scarbs was always a bit of a clusterf#ck even before the invasion of strings.
You've got to make the most of what you've got, hey.

Zed
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20 Oct 2011 9:48am
oceanfire said...

I don't like what this could all potentially turn into.

I know there's always seemed to be a rivalry between kiters and windsurfers, but it always seemed to me to be mostly friendly spirited.
I just hate the possibility that I and all the other responsible kiters are potentially going to become the target of animosity from windsurfers all due to the fact that only a very small minority of d*ckhead kiters have ruined the harmony that has previously existed between all water users in particular areas.




Congratulations. Kitesurfers are now officially more despised than child rapists...

Zed
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20 Oct 2011 10:01am
waveslave said...

MikeN said...

We kiters need to give them the space they need.



The poleys at the Scarborough sailing break don't want kiters giving them space ... in fact,
the poleys don't want kiters there at all, period.
But everywhere else in this big State of ours, the kiters and poleys co-exist in the surf zones.
But for some reason not in this metro zoo.
No way.
It's totally retarded.
Grow-up, haters.



I've quite happily sailed at Margs, Gnaraloo, Lano etc with Kitesurfers - never any problems, largely because they're not retards and have a decent skill level. I rarely sail Scabs, but when I do it's a f_ucking mess. Kiters doing downwinders through the poleys, Kiters in and out of the flags, dropping in on poleys and other kiters - a proper cluster f_uck. These retards are not good for Kiting and are not good for Windsurfing - period. It isn't windsurfing vs kiters. It's windsurfers vs retard kiters and it should be windsurfers AND kiters vs retard kiters. However a certain element of the kitesurfing world seem insistent on perpetuating this myth that all poleys hate kiters.... the sooner kiters start doing a bit more self-policing and sorting out the f_uckwits ruining their sport (and ours) the better.

eppo
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20 Oct 2011 10:28am
I have to totally agree with this statement. I demoed a kite last summer, first time kited at scabs for probably 8 years, and you are so right. It was the beginners screaming downwind, with looks of abject fear of their faces, in swarms - I wonder what the collective term would be for a group of learners screaming downwind.

Now I was consistently getting out of the way and had to use my years of kiting to avoid collision of kite, board and body (it was a particularly busy day), eventually put down kite and took it back to AKS and vowed never again to kite this place...and of course some will say good. I know it is not that bad all the time, it was a crazy day I picked, but I agree it is the learner.

I'm not going to call them retards or use some of the emotional language that has been used becuase we all have been there. When I learnt at scabs screaming downwind on a two line foil was okay as you just left the only two other guys on the water upwind...

Not sure of an answer hey, despite all our rage we are still just rats in a cage.



I kite with windsurfers all the time and we have no probs either.

Scabs is not the place to learn, repeat, scabs is not the place to learn. The traffic is too great
oceanfire
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20 Oct 2011 10:42am
Zed said...

oceanfire said...

I don't like what this could all potentially turn into.

I know there's always seemed to be a rivalry between kiters and windsurfers, but it always seemed to me to be mostly friendly spirited.
I just hate the possibility that I and all the other responsible kiters are potentially going to become the target of animosity from windsurfers all due to the fact that only a very small minority of d*ckhead kiters have ruined the harmony that has previously existed between all water users in particular areas.




Congratulations. Kitesurfers are now officially more despised than child rapists...




nice fail, troll.
spikeysteve
spikeysteve
WA
84 posts
WA, 84 posts
23 Oct 2011 10:25pm
To the guy with the black and blue kite that was doing some light wind kiting about 5 this arvo, sunday 23rd.

Bad look trying to land relaunch in the middle of the amphitheatre at scarboro.

I know the wind dropped out, but ffs keep out of the most crowded part of the beach.

I was about 800m down the beach surfing, and praying for no pedestrians to get wiped out, and with it all our kite privileges for the summer, and forever.

Perhaps i should have stopped surfing, run up the beach and helped.
tgladman
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24 Oct 2011 11:06am
Why on earth any1 would have their kite up/down on the beach in the middle of the amphitheater is beyond me. Even if you'd never been there in your life you'd have to be brain dead not to work it out.
cauncy
cauncy
WA
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25 Oct 2011 10:55pm
So happy i live in dongara 20kms of beach 6 kites max ,well until kitestock arrives, yep doesnt sound good down there and usually when one shire sets rules the others are soon to follow,the bksa are constantly delegating with local councils to allow kiting back on the beaches,ive heard of kiters rigging behind the dunes at my home beach in nw uk then outrunning the beach patrol to get their fix,also if someones being a bit of a dick with his kite we shouldnt be shy in telling them so,cant imagine the carnage on a packed beach in 25 knts with a beginner trying his new ,well 2003 wipika that he swapped for a carton digging a 200 yard trench with his chin,
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8 Nov 2011 11:33am
An update taken from the pollies forum.

It seems my/their persistance with the southern exclusion boundary has paid off. Hopefully this will have a good knock on effect for the kitesurfing area at Brighton.

Now just have to get the Trigg zone southern boundary moved north to first or second carpark rather than 3rd...

lao shi said...

Ok, guys an update.
A reply to WWA e-mail asking for an update from John Snook :
· It is unlikely that signage will be in place and erected by 1 Dec 2011. I will personally advise you when the signage will be going up.
· Beach Inspectors have been speaking on a regular basis to both wind and kitesurfers of the area changes to be introduced. This will continue even when the signage is erected.
· The main focus over the summer will be education rather than enforcement.
· The southern boundary of the restricted area will be moved northwards to the pathway north of the Brighton Drain. Following the review in July 2012 and taking into account comments already received, should the Management Plan be adopted on a permanent basis, it is likely that this boundary will be moved further north again.
· It is still anticipated that a marker/indicator as discussed will be erected to identify the edge of the restricted area.


Benz
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12 Nov 2011 1:39pm
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