Best glue for reglueing valves?

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NorthernKitesAUS
NorthernKitesAUS
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24 Jan 2020 11:30am
salvatore13 said..
Hi guys,

I was just wondering if there's any alternative to aquaseal/stormsure that I could get from Bunnings? I'm living in a rural area, I'm not sure if I can find Aquaseal locally and I can't be bothered waiting 5 days for the shipment from ebay.


No. There isn't. Believe me, I've tried.
NorthernKitesAUS
NorthernKitesAUS
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24 Jan 2020 11:32am
kemp90 said..
Just send it to Adams kite repair. Let an expert do it.

iv done many valves with stormsure but it's best to let the guys that do it every day do it!


You haven't tried me yet? Or is Adam in QLD now?
salvatore13
salvatore13
QLD
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24 Jan 2020 1:44pm
lucy5 said..

salvatore13 said..
Hi guys,

I was just wondering if there's any alternative to aquaseal/stormsure that I could get from Bunnings? I'm living in a rural area, I'm not sure if I can find Aquaseal locally and I can't be bothered waiting 5 days for the shipment from ebay.

I always used aquaseal and I know it can be trusted when applied properly. From what I know it's important that aquaseal remains flexible after curing. Someone in very old threads recommended Shoe Goo (?) or Tarzan Grip General Purpose Glue but I'm not sure if they have similar characteristics.

This one also looks like it could work:
www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/651267/oakwood-shoe-glue

Cheers ;)



Shoe glue from Bunnings in a tube is great and cheap


that one?www.bunnings.com.au/selleys-50ml-shoe-fix-contact-adhesive_p1230037
NorthernKitesAUS
NorthernKitesAUS
QLD
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24 Jan 2020 3:21pm
salvatore13 said..

lucy5 said..
Shoe glue from Bunnings in a tube is great and cheap

that one?www.bunnings.com.au/selleys-50ml-shoe-fix-contact-adhesive_p1230037


LOL

Who's up for The Great Valve Repair Comp !?

A video showing the repair, with the glue of choice and a test video showing it working (or not) - both bladder outside and inside the kite.

I am pretty sure StormSure will win hands down!
newbie23562
newbie23562
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iandvnt
iandvnt
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27 Jan 2020 6:41pm
anyone make a clamp? instead of using candle holders bottle etc to weight it down
weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy
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635 posts
27 Jan 2020 9:25pm
iandvnt said..
anyone make a clamp? instead of using candle holders bottle etc to weight it down


Yes. Thats what I do. Get a hole saw (drill bit) and cut a hole to the size of the outer part of the valve. Clamp to another piece of wood underneath. I use 2 quickgrip clamps to get even pressure.

the tip is to put some talc/flour onto the top piece of wood so that the glue that is compressed out during clamping doesn't stick to it.

You could probably cut a doughnut the correct size out to avoid the problems of glue seeping out and sticking to the wood but it seems more effort for little reward
salvatore13
salvatore13
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28 Jan 2020 9:05am
weebitbreezy said..

iandvnt said..
anyone make a clamp? instead of using candle holders bottle etc to weight it down



Yes. Thats what I do. Get a hole saw (drill bit) and cut a hole to the size of the outer part of the valve. Clamp to another piece of wood underneath. I use 2 quickgrip clamps to get even pressure.

the tip is to put some talc/flour onto the top piece of wood so that the glue that is compressed out during clamping doesn't stick to it.

You could probably cut a doughnut the correct size out to avoid the problems of glue seeping out and sticking to the wood but it seems more effort for little reward


Funnily I have found my Aquaseal repairs work much better when not clamped... I don't know how it works but I think the glue needs some access to fresh air to cure.

When I clamped my valve it literally came off 2 weeks later and the glue from under the valve was still sticky, after 2 weeks!!! LOL...

Other valves that I glued without any clamping hold for years now. I just apply extra glue on the edges on the top of the valve.
salvatore13
salvatore13
QLD
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28 Jan 2020 9:07am
NorthernKitesAUS said..

salvatore13 said..


lucy5 said..
Shoe glue from Bunnings in a tube is great and cheap


that one?www.bunnings.com.au/selleys-50ml-shoe-fix-contact-adhesive_p1230037



LOL

Who's up for The Great Valve Repair Comp !?

A video showing the repair, with the glue of choice and a test video showing it working (or not) - both bladder outside and inside the kite.

I am pretty sure StormSure will win hands down!


That would be awesome! Please let me know if you make one!
salvatore13
salvatore13
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28 Jan 2020 9:23am



Hey, I just checked it's chemical composition and compared it to like 10 other glues and guess what... It contains the exact same ingredient to aquaseal and stormsure which no other glue I checked contained... I think it might be it! Thanks for that.

Sika 291

Aquaseal

Stormsure


lucy5
lucy5
QLD
104 posts
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28 Jan 2020 10:25pm
NorthernKitesAUS said..

salvatore13 said..


lucy5 said..
Shoe glue from Bunnings in a tube is great and cheap


that one?www.bunnings.com.au/selleys-50ml-shoe-fix-contact-adhesive_p1230037



LOL

Who's up for The Great Valve Repair Comp !?

A video showing the repair, with the glue of choice and a test video showing it working (or not) - both bladder outside and inside the kite.

I am pretty sure StormSure will win hands down!


Shoe glu works well tried and tested
timmybuddhadude
timmybuddhadude
WA
862 posts
WA, 862 posts
29 Jan 2020 12:23am
salvatore13 said..









Hey, I just checked it's chemical composition and compared it to like 10 other glues and guess what... It contains the exact same ingredient to aquaseal and stormsure which no other glue I checked contained... I think it might be it! Thanks for that.

Sika 291

Aquaseal

Stormsure




There we go.. Well done.. and tgrip.(plse research the other names for those chemicals).. . Plse someone research shoeglue I can't be bothered at the moment.. Thanx
salvatore13
salvatore13
QLD
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QLD, 50 posts
29 Jan 2020 7:46am
I've checked selleys shoe glue, shoe goo, e6000 and others and none of them contained this chemical. What I'm looking for in google is for example "aquaseal MSDS" which is material safety data sheet and has to be available to consumers ;)
cheers
kitcho207
kitcho207
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29 Jan 2020 8:52am
You still rocking those RPM's Loopy? They have had a hard life...
timmybuddhadude
timmybuddhadude
WA
862 posts
WA, 862 posts
29 Jan 2020 10:51pm
salvatore13 said..
I've checked selleys shoe glue, shoe goo, e6000 and others and none of them contained this chemical. What I'm looking for in google is for example "aquaseal MSDS" which is material safety data sheet and has to be available to consumers ;)
cheers




Hey Sally
I checked the 'also known as' I. E other names of it...
Then I checked the material safety sheet 'ingredients'.. Found the also known as were in there..
. .. Not on shoe glue however never tried it because for 7+yrs tgrips been the 'bomb'

P. S impressed
farNT
farNT
QLD
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30 Jan 2020 1:47pm
Tarzan no stretch...I did a repair to my leading edge a couple of weeks ago (blowout ) about 7cmx7cm after i cut away the stretched bladder material ,I just cut a patch out of bladder material and glued it yes with tarzan grip straight over the hole with another piece of bladder material on the inside and placed it inside an old phone book weighted down over night then ran a bead of this magic substance around the outside of the patch and bingo pumped her up and she was good to go ..i dont care what ingredients are in the stuff as long as it works ..as i said at the very start of this post i have glued plenty of valves on using tarzan grip an they are all still going strong ..
timmybuddhadude
timmybuddhadude
WA
862 posts
WA, 862 posts
30 Jan 2020 1:14pm
Yup Yup Yup Yup Yup good on ya four bux and everywhere
Happy days

Glad this post is on here I am completely sick of new shops or people saying just two glues when they are dealing with people jumping unhooking and slamming 20metres from the shore not 4km..bollox

Happydays
NorthernKitesAUS
NorthernKitesAUS
QLD
1084 posts
QLD, 1084 posts
31 Jan 2020 12:26pm
farNT said..
Tarzan no stretch...I did a repair to my leading edge a couple of weeks ago (blowout ) about 7cmx7cm after i cut away the stretched bladder material ,I just cut a patch out of bladder material and glued it yes with tarzan grip straight over the hole with another piece of bladder material on the inside and placed it inside an old phone book weighted down over night then ran a bead of this magic substance around the outside of the patch and bingo pumped her up and she was good to go ..i dont care what ingredients are in the stuff as long as it works ..as i said at the very start of this post i have glued plenty of valves on using tarzan grip an they are all still going strong ..


Hmm interesting. Your repair method is similar to mine. Which Tarzan grip exactly? I will try this myself
farNT
farNT
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89 posts
QLD, 89 posts
1 Feb 2020 8:52pm
Just the ol general purpose from bunnings
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