Tsunami Charity money used for whaling

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seafever17
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8 Dec 2011 5:09pm
I want my hundred bucks back!!

How low can you go? People from all over the world donating money in good faith to help the Japanese people in their greatest natural disaster in living memory and now its being used to beef up security so they can kill more whales!!

Arseholes


http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/special-features/japan-confirms-greenpeace-whaling-charge/story-e6frg19l-1226216914879


Mobydisc
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8 Dec 2011 8:23pm
Maybe some of the whaling boats were wrecked by the tsunami. The whalers would have been compensated like all the others who suffered from the natural disaster. Or only should certain people be compensated?
lotofwind
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8 Dec 2011 8:26pm
The only good thing about the tsunami was that it destroyed heaps of whaleing boats.
Mobydisc
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8 Dec 2011 8:29pm
lotofwind said...

The only good thing about the tsunami was that it destroyed heaps of whaleing boats.


If that is true then perhaps it's bad. The old boats were destroyed and replaced with new boats that are better vessels for hunting whales.
lotofwind
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8 Dec 2011 8:43pm









Maybe its time to let the Japanese know that windsurfers are closer to extinction than whales,,,,so maybe they could be the next deliciousy as near extinction seems to be the criteria.
jbshack
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8 Dec 2011 6:12pm
Actually none of the whaling boats were touched. The money is justified because one of the towns devastated was a whaling based town. So the government gave the money to the Whaler's to help lift security against the SSCS.

A fleet of boats that hunt and kill Dall Porpoises was destroyed but they have been given nothing. The big difference is they are more small fisherman based companies and the main whaling fleet is run by the Yakuza..

I feel devastated for the Japanese people still living in cardboard boxes and for the people who have simply moved home into areas that the government has condemned. But they have no choice and no money to start again somewhere else. But hey soon they might be able to buy whale meat again

I hope this may be the end for the Japanese whaling. Killed of becuase of their arrogance.
stamp
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8 Dec 2011 8:34pm
rebuilding the boats and reviving the whaling & fishing industries will provide thousands of much needed jobs and help whole towns get back on their feet.

keep your emotive bull***t out of this. it's bad enough risking lives at sea because you think whales are cute and you want to play pretend war games. they are only spending the money on security because sea shepherd is causing a risk.

how about spending the millions it costs to throw paint at whalers on helping to rebuild japan instead? go and build some houses or schools. it would establish goodwill and in the process free up the money they have to spend on protecting their whaling fleet. or is that not fun enough?


lotofwind
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8 Dec 2011 9:48pm
^^^^^^but they only kill whales for scientific research,,,not for profit????Bah haa ha,,,,so how will that help them earn money??
The rest of the world survive without killing whales and dolphins.
jbshack
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8 Dec 2011 6:53pm
stamp said...

rebuilding the boats and reviving the whaling & fishing industries will provide thousands of much needed jobs and help whole towns get back on their feet.

keep your emotive bull***t out of this. it's bad enough risking lives at sea because you think whales are cute and you want to play pretend war games. they are only spending the money on security because sea shepherd is causing a risk.

how about spending the millions it costs to throw paint at whalers on helping to rebuild japan instead? go and build some houses or schools. it would establish goodwill and in the process free up the money they have to spend on protecting their whaling fleet. or is that not fun enough?





SSCS will spend about 3 million of privately raised funds (raised under the guise of stopping this from happening)to try and stop the Japanese from WHALING ILLEGALLY in AUSTRALIAN TERRITORIAL WATERS. The Japanese whalers are spending a EXTRA $28 million aus dollars (that was given for them to help rebuild the country) that they were given to help build schools, houses and feed their people. Not sure if you read my post above but not one of the IRC whaling boats were damaged. Mate i don't think Whales are cute. Honestly i couldn't care less for them except that i believe and so do thousands of scientists that we should not be killing whales. Especially endangered ones.

With your attitude you probably have no issue with killing of any thing that lives. Have you got children mate? Wouldn't you like them to be able to see a whale one day?


To bad if there all gone thanks to poor attitude like yours.
lotofwind
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8 Dec 2011 10:01pm
jbshack said...

stamp said...

rebuilding the boats and reviving the whaling & fishing industries will provide thousands of much needed jobs and help whole towns get back on their feet.

keep your emotive bull***t out of this. it's bad enough risking lives at sea because you think whales are cute and you want to play pretend war games. they are only spending the money on security because sea shepherd is causing a risk.

how about spending the millions it costs to throw paint at whalers on helping to rebuild japan instead? go and build some houses or schools. it would establish goodwill and in the process free up the money they have to spend on protecting their whaling fleet. or is that not fun enough?

Mate i don't think Whales are cute.

Some people do.

stamp
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8 Dec 2011 9:01pm
if it's done sustainably there's nothing wrong with whaling.
the bottom line is that people think they are cute or intelligent or magnificent. there are more pressing environmental issues more deserving of the attention & money that ss attract.
Toots
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8 Dec 2011 7:01pm
Much of the civilised western world was built on whaling. If it wasnt for whaling I bet there would be a few of us not here.

Tsunami is a Japanese word, In English they are known as Tidal Waves, although not dependent on tides, it is some what of a misnomer but thats what we call them. To be consistent you should then be calling whales by their Japanese name 'Kujira'.

No charity organisation actually funds what they are said to, most charities are tax write offs for MegaCorp and the like, where they employ people for vast amounts of money and squander the remains on photo oppurtunities. Its all Showbiz.
jbshack
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8 Dec 2011 8:12pm
Toots said...

Much of the civilised western world was built on whaling. If it wasnt for whaling I bet there would be a few of us not here.

Tsunami is a Japanese word, In English they are known as Tidal Waves, although not dependent on tides, it is some what of a misnomer but thats what we call them. To be consistent you should then be calling whales by their Japanese name 'Kujira'.

No charity organisation actually funds what they are said to, most charities are tax write offs for MegaCorp and the like, where they employ people for vast amounts of money and squander the remains on photo oppurtunities. Its all Showbiz.


Its a shame you feel that way about charity.
Your dead wrong though.

How would the Cystic Fibrosis Association get money if i didn't help sponsor them, how would Miriam the young girl we sponsor in Thailand get her money if we didn't sponsor her, ( she writes constantly with my daughter same age and trust me she gets everything we send ), how would the orangatangs get financial help if people like me didn't send money every month. My 10 year old does fund raising for them directly. How would the SSCS crew go if it wasn't for my funds i send..All these i consider great investments and i take my investments serious. So i check them out first from top to toe and mate that is why i can say charity is not all about show biz

There are many NGO's that are nothing more than scams sadly though But not all.

jbshack
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8 Dec 2011 8:17pm
stamp said...

if it's done sustainably there's nothing wrong with whaling.
the bottom line is that people think they are cute or intelligent or magnificent. there are more pressing environmental issues more deserving of the attention & money that ss attract.



I guess you could also ask if Slavery was done sustainably it would be okay? Or to hunt White rhinos is okay if its done sustainably? Oh that's right they said that about white Rhino's right up till the day they were just declared Extinct less than a few months ago[}:)]

barn
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8 Dec 2011 8:20pm
Toots said...

Much of the civilised western world was built on whaling. If it wasnt for whaling I bet there would be a few of us not here.



What a stupid argument, if Napoleon decided to take a take up karate instead of invading Egypt, none of us would be here. Any alternative history and it would be our non-existant brothers and sisters in our place, or our parents would simply never have met..



dinsdale
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8 Dec 2011 9:35pm
stamp said...

rebuilding the boats and reviving the whaling & fishing industries will provide thousands of much needed jobs and help whole towns get back on their feet.

keep your emotive bull***t out of this. it's bad enough risking lives at sea because you think whales are cute and you want to play pretend war games. they are only spending the money on security because sea shepherd is causing a risk.

how about spending the millions it costs to throw paint at whalers on helping to rebuild japan instead? go and build some houses or schools. it would establish goodwill and in the process free up the money they have to spend on protecting their whaling fleet. or is that not fun enough?

If plain ol' common sense is your thing, you're in the wrong forum.

Toots
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8 Dec 2011 11:12pm
barn said...

Toots said...

Much of the civilised western world was built on whaling. If it wasnt for whaing I bet there would be a few of us not here.



What a stupid argument, if Napoleon decided to take a take up karate instead of invading Egypt, none of us would be here. Any alternative history and it would be our non-existant brothers and sisters in our place, or our parents would simply never have met..






Speak for your bad white self, not all of us are are of European stock, I know you are young, dumb and full of cum and like to sound like a forum righteous dude and with so little assume so much.
You obviously know nothing about history regarding whales and their multiple uses and the industry it once was in western society especially, and many other societies, not just Japan.

Why do you feel this sense of superiority? why are you so attracted to everything I say? Is it me you hate? or yourself you see in me you hate? Usually people who hate other people so much, lets use gay people as an example; are usually very attracted to those people, your words, not mine
Stick to the topic, or go PH test your bad white self lest you burn in your own acid, your campaign against me in every single thread I post in is running thin and displays your lack of character.
(your mums stupid for not swallowing)
doggie
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9 Dec 2011 8:30am
Toots said...

barn said...

Toots said...

Much of the civilised western world was built on whaling. If it wasnt for whaing I bet there would be a few of us not here.



What a stupid argument, if Napoleon decided to take a take up karate instead of invading Egypt, none of us would be here. Any alternative history and it would be our non-existant brothers and sisters in our place, or our parents would simply never have met..






Speak for your bad white self, not all of us are are of European stock, I know you are young, dumb and full of cum and like to sound like a forum righteous dude and with so little assume so much.
You obviously know nothing about history regarding whales and their multiple uses and the industry it once was in western society especially, and many other societies, not just Japan.

Why do you feel this sense of superiority? why are you so attracted to everything I say? Is it me you hate? or yourself you see in me you hate? Usually people who hate other people so much, lets use gay people as an example; are usually very attracted to those people, your words, not mine
Stick to the topic, or go PH test your bad white self lest you burn in your own acid, your campaign against me in every single thread I post in is running thin and displays your lack of character.
(your mums stupid for not swallowing)



Big reaction, I think barn is right on this one.
barn
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9 Dec 2011 9:06am
Toots said...


Speak for your bad white self, not all of us are are of European stock



Your point was that Whaling was necessary for our existence, therefore good. The Holocaust, Bubonic plague and the destruction of the Dinosaurs were also necessary for our existence. It's the butterfly effect.

My point was nobody would be here if events in history were different, good or bad. Napoleon was just an example.

And I'm not stalking your posts, don't flatter yourself.

(Doggie thats twice you have agreed with me this week! I must be loosing my touch ahah)
doggie
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9 Dec 2011 9:33am
^^ I know Im worried
felixdcat
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9 Dec 2011 9:36am
doggie said...

Toots said...

barn said...

Toots said...

Much of the civilised western world was built on whaling. If it wasnt for whaing I bet there would be a few of us not here.



What a stupid argument, if Napoleon decided to take a take up karate instead of invading Egypt, none of us would be here. Any alternative history and it would be our non-existant brothers and sisters in our place, or our parents would simply never have met..






Speak for your bad white self, not all of us are are of European stock, I know you are young, dumb and full of cum and like to sound like a forum righteous dude and with so little assume so much.
You obviously know nothing about history regarding whales and their multiple uses and the industry it once was in western society especially, and many other societies, not just Japan.

Why do you feel this sense of superiority? why are you so attracted to everything I say? Is it me you hate? or yourself you see in me you hate? Usually people who hate other people so much, lets use gay people as an example; are usually very attracted to those people, your words, not mine
Stick to the topic, or go PH test your bad white self lest you burn in your own acid, your campaign against me in every single thread I post in is running thin and displays your lack of character.
(your mums stupid for not swallowing)



Big reaction, I think barn is right on this one.

I agree with Barn as well!
Calling peeps names is for week duck heads losing an argument because they are not intelligent enough to debate it..... What is next? You are going to seek barn to kick his head in?????? You must be Jap and suffering the small peniis syndrome!
You argument is: 100 years ago whale oil was the best fine oil around in the world so it is alright for the Japs to kill whales to extract more oil now, I thought the fickers were so advanced in technology that now they would have products 1000x better and not derived of whale!
I feel sorry for the like of you! You are pathetic!
seafever17
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9 Dec 2011 10:38am
Anyway, Good on sea shephard. Paul Watson was a founding member of Greenpeace (what a joke) and left because they had such weak operating methods. For 40 odd years he has been dedicated to protecting whales. If nothing else full points to staying true to the cause.

Lets face it. There is no valid reason for harvesting whales.Oil/Food whatever. Nothing stands up.

Its just a money grab.

While the rest of the world has adopted a don't touch mentality towards them the Japanese have been enjoying the spoils of the good decision of everyone else(no competition).

Good luck Sea Shepherd!!!

ockanui
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9 Dec 2011 2:00pm
its make a good read this post, but what I find a little off putting, is when an argument put forward is really only written to attack someone's character rather than presenting an alternative argument, as they say in the sports, 'play the game and not the man' When an attack as such happens the credibility of the presented post and "poster" is lost, in my opinion
newo
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9 Dec 2011 1:57pm
I ate whale while in japan.
doggie
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9 Dec 2011 2:00pm
Whalers file lawsuit against Sea Shepherd.

Japanese whalers have filed a lawsuit in the United States in a bid to prevent "acts of violence" by Sea Shepherd activists during this year's hunt.

In a statement Japan's Institute of Cetacean Research (ICR), and Kyodo Senpaku Kaisha Ltd, which operates the whaling vessels, said they had filed the lawsuit to establish legal protection of their ships and crews.

"Sea Shepherd has made numerous attempts to foul ships' propellers with ropes, potentially placing the crews and vessels in extreme danger," the statement read.

It said last whaling season the hunt was cut short because of concerns for the safety of the crews and vessels.

"Unfortunately Sea Shepherd is escalating its acts of violence and this has left us with no choice but to file the safety-at-sea lawsuit," the whalers said on Friday.

Each year activists from the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society confront Japanese whalers in the waters around Antarctica.

They use weapons such as propeller foulers and stink bombs to frustrate whaling efforts.

In the past Sea Shepherd ships and Japanese vessels have collided, although both sides blamed each other for the strikes.

Spokesman for the whalers, Gavin Carter, told AAP from Washington that the lawsuit would only target violent activities, and not peaceful protest actions.

He said the lawsuit, filed in the US District Court in Seattle on Thursday (local time) did not seek monetary compensation from Sea Shepherd, but did seek a permanent stop to the activists' actions.

Each year Japan's whaling fleet heads south to the Southern Ocean near Antarctica to conduct so-called "scientific whaling".

The hunt is allowed under a loophole in the International Whaling Commission's ban on commercial whaling.

Speaking to AAP from on board a vessel off the coast of Western Australia, Sea Shepherd founder Paul Watson said he was not worried about the lawsuit, which names him personally.

He said it was frivolous and any US court that saw video footage of an incident last year - when a protest vessel was destroyed after a collision with a whaling ship - would dismiss the action.

Sea Shepherd activists were not aggressive nor did they break a single law, Mr Watson said.

"We are not down there protesting whaling, we are down there intervening against criminal activities," he said.

"We defend ourselves from being rammed, hit with water cannons, shot at, have concussion grenades and bamboo spears thrown at us, so yes, we defend ourselves," he said.

Mr Watson said the ships his organisation used were not owned by Sea Shepherd USA, nor were they US-flagged vessels.

"The United States government and courts have no authority over these ships so I don't know what they are hoping to achieve," Mr Watson said.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8387375/whalers-file-lawsuit-against-sea-shepherd
Toots
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9 Dec 2011 2:01pm
barn said...

Toots said...


Speak for your bad white self, not all of us are are of European stock



Your point was that Whaling was necessary for our existence, therefore good. The Holocaust, Bubonic plague and the destruction of the Dinosaurs were also necessary for our existence. It's the butterfly effect.

My point was nobody would be here if events in history were different, good or bad. Napoleon was just an example.

And I'm not stalking your posts, don't flatter yourself.

(Doggie thats twice you have agreed with me this week! I must be loosing my touch ahah)


Why pick on the japs, what about the Norwegians?

And yes you are stalking all my posts, every time I post you seem to have an extremely adverse reaction, no matter what
doggie
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9 Dec 2011 2:02pm
newo said...

I ate whale while in japan.


Taste like chicken? <<jokin...
Toots
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9 Dec 2011 2:05pm
felixdcat said...

doggie said...

Toots said...

barn said...

Toots said...

Much of the civilised western world was built on whaling. If it wasnt for whaing I bet there would be a few of us not here.



What a stupid argument, if Napoleon decided to take a take up karate instead of invading Egypt, none of us would be here. Any alternative history and it would be our non-existant brothers and sisters in our place, or our parents would simply never have met..






Speak for your bad white self, not all of us are are of European stock, I know you are young, dumb and full of cum and like to sound like a forum righteous dude and with so little assume so much.
You obviously know nothing about history regarding whales and their multiple uses and the industry it once was in western society especially, and many other societies, not just Japan.

Why do you feel this sense of superiority? why are you so attracted to everything I say? Is it me you hate? or yourself you see in me you hate? Usually people who hate other people so much, lets use gay people as an example; are usually very attracted to those people, your words, not mine
Stick to the topic, or go PH test your bad white self lest you burn in your own acid, your campaign against me in every single thread I post in is running thin and displays your lack of character.
(your mums stupid for not swallowing)



Big reaction, I think barn is right on this one.

I agree with Barn as well!
Calling peeps names is for week duck heads losing an argument because they are not intelligent enough to debate it..... What is next? You are going to seek barn to kick his head in?????? You must be Jap and suffering the small peniis syndrome!
You argument is: 100 years ago whale oil was the best fine oil around in the world so it is alright for the Japs to kill whales to extract more oil now, I thought the fickers were so advanced in technology that now they would have products 1000x better and not derived of whale!
I feel sorry for the like of you! You are pathetic!



Felix, sorry mate you will have to point out in the post where I called any one a name.
I actually feel sorry for you buddy, you need to form a gang, stick your nose in where its not wanted
Holy Internet gang up Batman.

My point is that these topics really are populist BS, Greenpeace and the like are such populist BS. Sure whales are cute but its very high and mighty of you all to bag an industry that put food on your ancestors table and provided other products.

As for me being a small penised Jap, lets just say dont go to Fiji and start on about your self righteous anti whaling campaigns and think you will get respect.

Heed your own advice too and be consistent, you said name calling is for weak duck heads then call me a small penised Jap, not only displaying your goldfishesque memory but also your bigoted racist mindset.
doggie
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9 Dec 2011 2:06pm
Toots said...

barn said...

Toots said...


Speak for your bad white self, not all of us are are of European stock



Your point was that Whaling was necessary for our existence, therefore good. The Holocaust, Bubonic plague and the destruction of the Dinosaurs were also necessary for our existence. It's the butterfly effect.

My point was nobody would be here if events in history were different, good or bad. Napoleon was just an example.

And I'm not stalking your posts, don't flatter yourself.

(Doggie thats twice you have agreed with me this week! I must be loosing my touch ahah)


Why pick on the japs, what about the Norwegians?

And yes you are stalking all my posts, every time I post you seem to have an extremely adverse reaction, no matter what


Stalk him back or start talking about shooting foxes, that works for me <<jokin barn
doggie
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9 Dec 2011 2:08pm
Toots said...

felixdcat said...

doggie said...

Toots said...

barn said...

Toots said...

Much of the civilised western world was built on whaling. If it wasnt for whaing I bet there would be a few of us not here.



What a stupid argument, if Napoleon decided to take a take up karate instead of invading Egypt, none of us would be here. Any alternative history and it would be our non-existant brothers and sisters in our place, or our parents would simply never have met..






Speak for your bad white self, not all of us are are of European stock, I know you are young, dumb and full of cum and like to sound like a forum righteous dude and with so little assume so much.
You obviously know nothing about history regarding whales and their multiple uses and the industry it once was in western society especially, and many other societies, not just Japan.

Why do you feel this sense of superiority? why are you so attracted to everything I say? Is it me you hate? or yourself you see in me you hate? Usually people who hate other people so much, lets use gay people as an example; are usually very attracted to those people, your words, not mine
Stick to the topic, or go PH test your bad white self lest you burn in your own acid, your campaign against me in every single thread I post in is running thin and displays your lack of character.
(your mums stupid for not swallowing)



Big reaction, I think barn is right on this one.

I agree with Barn as well!
Calling peeps names is for week duck heads losing an argument because they are not intelligent enough to debate it..... What is next? You are going to seek barn to kick his head in?????? You must be Jap and suffering the small peniis syndrome!
You argument is: 100 years ago whale oil was the best fine oil around in the world so it is alright for the Japs to kill whales to extract more oil now, I thought the fickers were so advanced in technology that now they would have products 1000x better and not derived of whale!
I feel sorry for the like of you! You are pathetic!



Felix, sorry mate you will have to point out in the post where I called any one a name.
Holy Internet gang up Batman.

My point is that these topics really are populist BS, Greenpeace and the like are such populist BS. Sure whales are cute but its very high and mighty of you all to bag an industry that put food on your ancestors table and provided other products.





If barn said to you "your mums stupid for not swallowing" what would you think?
Toots
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9 Dec 2011 2:10pm
doggie said...

Toots said...

barn said...

Toots said...

Much of the civilised western world was built on whaling. If it wasnt for whaing I bet there would be a few of us not here.



What a stupid argument, if Napoleon decided to take a take up karate instead of invading Egypt, none of us would be here. Any alternative history and it would be our non-existant brothers and sisters in our place, or our parents would simply never have met..






Speak for your bad white self, not all of us are are of European stock, I know you are young, dumb and full of cum and like to sound like a forum righteous dude and with so little assume so much.
You obviously know nothing about history regarding whales and their multiple uses and the industry it once was in western society especially, and many other societies, not just Japan.

Why do you feel this sense of superiority? why are you so attracted to everything I say? Is it me you hate? or yourself you see in me you hate? Usually people who hate other people so much, lets use gay people as an example; are usually very attracted to those people, your words, not mine
Stick to the topic, or go PH test your bad white self lest you burn in your own acid, your campaign against me in every single thread I post in is running thin and displays your lack of character.
(your mums stupid for not swallowing)



Big reaction, I think barn is right on this one.

Listen here Tit head, Barn is mentally attracted to me and he cant leave me alone, every post I make he feels a need to comment on.
Now dont be jealous.
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