Hey this is rich!
evlPanda said...
Translation: You sound like a great guy Adziz. God bless you ...but please tell your family to stay where they are because they want to establish a world wide Islamic state by whatever means necessary.
WTF man? WTF?
Panda makes his own skewed translation of something I wrote and then does a dummy spit over his own writings.
Evilpanda, If I wanted to say anything like what you said I would have said it.
In spite of the fact I am old and probably going saline I still have a good grasp of the english language.
People should take your translation as being your view, not mine.
evlPanda said...
Again: When you cherry-pick a bad example from a collective, and then label all or most of that collective the same, you are fear-mongering. And if you think about it is the most cowardly thing a person can do. That is: being scared of something that is not at all scary, and inciting others to be scared of it too.
Do you find Adziz scary?
No I don't.
If Adziz has read the koran and has chosen to live by the verses that command him to live in the manner he describes then I am happy to pass on that he has my blessing. And I don't give it lightly so I'm a little surprised that you felt the need to mutilate it with your perverted 'translation'. But anyway, at least you're up front about it in that you prefix your name with evl.
But what people do find scary, and what makes them apprehensive is that so many people read from exactly the same books and come up with a completely different opinion of what is required from them as directed by that very same book. And that opinion can be summarised by the same catchcry that was used when islam was first being established,.."The Koran or the sword!"
In other words, 'believe what is written here or you are destined for destruction by our hand.'
I find that a little scary.
If you go to the trouble of reading up for yourself you can see that this view doesn't even depend a wrong translation or a misinterpretation.
The paragraphs are clear that if a person is offered the 'wisdom' of the koran and reject it then they are infidels and liable for destruction.
They are commanded to fight the infidel until they either convert to islam or they are dead.
So yes, lots of people find that a little scary.
You might say that this couldn't happen in Australia. You would be wrong.
You should remember the case of Abdul Nacer Benbrika. He was hoping to blow up something significant such as football stadium, army barracks or whatever would inflict maximum pain on the country which had taken him in. He wasn't acting alone. There were 17 known accomplices and probably had the support of some black cloaked cockroach somewhere preaching death and destruction to the infidel in the name of his religion,.. islam.
He would have come to the view that all this was 'gods will' by reading the very same books that Adziz probably read and yet came to a diametrically opposite conclusion.
And therein lies the problem. It just depends on which verses you choose to amplify and which verses you choose to ignore as to how you will behave, a pillar of society of a murderous thug.
I find that more than a little scary.
As I have said, at this point in time there is a cancer spreading through the muslim world and whether they like it or not it is stemming from their own 'holy book'. The problem will not go away until such time as some authorative body does a re-write or a re-interpretation and somehow either deletes or disarms the offending paragraphs. Until such time, I see it as an undesirable import.
It's got nothing to do with whether this person or that person is a good bloke or not. You could present the whole bin Laden family as shining examples of what a good muslim is like but from within that same family came one of the worst examples of the what their religion can produce. And he had thousands of followers who thought he was gods gift to the muslim world.
Now that scares me.
One person is a lone lunatic.
Thousands of followers make it a cancer on society.
